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#76    Michelle

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 04:51 AM

View PostUncle Sam, on 02 February 2013 - 04:24 AM, said:

Gang leaders usually distribute guns to their members, so it could have come from anywhere. Stolen, bought, or gotten from the black market.

It amazes me the people who make excuses for criminals. It is the law abiding gun owner's fault we are robbed, it is our fault guns get in the wrong hands, it is our fault people are selling guns on the black market, ad infinitum...


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 05:08 AM

Then we get this gem in the local news.

http://www.registerg...ly-leg.html.csp


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:16 AM

View PostMichelle, on 02 February 2013 - 04:51 AM, said:

It amazes me the people who make excuses for criminals. It is the law abiding gun owner's fault we are robbed, it is our fault guns get in the wrong hands, it is our fault people are selling guns on the black market, ad infinitum...

Collective guilt.

It's like another chapter added to the bible,,,,, some will say it's already there....  lol

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:30 AM

View Postquestionmark, on 01 February 2013 - 05:04 PM, said:



guns can only come from those who make them.
I make them.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 06:46 AM

Also video games and media with violence has not been shown to beget violence. That its even considered seems absurd. I understand the face value of violence must beget violence but studies have shown conclusively that it is simply not true.
http://www.minnpost....-world-violence


But people want to blame any object they can imagine. Guess what guys not everyone is good. Some people will statistically be bad no matter how much they are coddled and babysat. Its just life and the law of averages.

Edited by Aus Der Box Skeptisch, 02 February 2013 - 06:48 AM.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:08 AM

Yet they continue to avoid the over prescribing of SSRI (antidepressants) to young adults and children. Its why its called madness when they are so blind to the power hungry lobbying groups that they wont even dare mention this as one of the common denominators in all of the recent shootings and many murder suicides in this country.


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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:25 AM

I had a friend who was given anti psychotics at 16. He was fairly normal before. You could talk to him. have a good time with him. He was only barely depressed. After though. He changed. He became paranoid. Angry. Violent. You couldn't even hold a conversation any longer with him. Those anti psychotics created a psychopath. He can never stop taking them because of all the side effects and honestly I think he may need them now.
Same thing with another friend. He was weird but he was sane and coherent .... until the anti psychotics. Now he talks about all sorts of delusions.  I weep for him also. I knew these two very well and for many many years. Now because of anti psychotics I have no clue who they are anymore and frankly the first one scares me now.

But that's OK cause the doctor gave them a pill so they swallowed. Two lives ruined because a medicine was pushed down their throws through trust.
Sorry guys. This post hit close to home for me. I truly care about those two. But only one is able to be a friend and its hard to watch that happen before your own eyes.
Go modern medicine.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:30 AM

View Postquestionmark, on 01 February 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

I have no agenda, but I grew up in a time when the biggest worry a parent had about his kids drowned in the river or got a bloody nose in a school brawl. And I would like that time to come back for the sake of my grandkids.
You grew up in a time where you didn't serve in the military too then if those were the biggest worries your parents had.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:04 AM

View PostYamato, on 02 February 2013 - 07:30 AM, said:

You grew up in a time where you didn't serve in the military too then if those were the biggest worries your parents had.

Once you are 18, in anybodies book, you should be able to take care of yourself. And to see it that way, I was the first generation without a draft in the last century. We are talking about kids 16 and younger here who don't even have a realistic chance to fight back (even if they had guns).

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:06 AM

View PostAus Der Box Skeptisch, on 02 February 2013 - 06:30 AM, said:

I make them.

Well, the question is if you are satisfied with the thought that you are, unnecessarily because guns could be traced, contributing to 64,000 deaths in Mexico.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:28 AM

Q behave.

Edited by Aus Der Box Skeptisch, 02 February 2013 - 10:29 AM.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:34 AM

View PostAus Der Box Skeptisch, on 02 February 2013 - 10:28 AM, said:

How many people died because of being overworked a in Japan so that we can enjoy technology. How many people are being poisoned in China by pollution so we can have cheaper Goods.  How many animals suffer tortured so that we can have cheap food and an abundance of food.
How many cars contributed to death. Is an employee of a car manufacturer responsible for the death of those people on the roads.
I know you mean well. Yet you've missed the forest by isolating 1 tree.

And you are happy with that too?

And don't get me wrong, I have nothing against guns nor against anybody who makes them. I am just getting more p***ed off by the minute that there seems to be a large group who knows that the black market could be severely curtailed but are stopping everybody from doing it by yaddahing something about freedom, second amendment and uprising against the government. Rights come with obligations, and if society falls short on fulfilling those obligations laws have to be enacted to either force the fulfillment of the obligations or curtail the rights. It is as simple as that.

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Posted 02 February 2013 - 10:41 AM

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there seems to be a large group who knows that the black market could be severely curtailed but are stopping everybody from doing it by yaddahing something about freedom, second amendment and uprising against the government. Rights come with obligations, and if society falls short on fulfilling those obligations laws have to be enacted to either force the fulfillment of the obligations or curtail the rights. It is as simple as that.

*cough* *cough* did you really say society falling short of obligations ? In which country are you referring too ?

I dont trust our current lawmakers to lift the toilet seat when the use the p***er let alone enact anything.


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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:29 PM

Wow one that actually worked! Not to mention the ones that did not work like  Columbine; which sparked the same issues that are still being debated with these new rash of School shooting.  If you look at the reasons they blamed for the shootings at Columbine and others like them... Its mainly the same thing that is happening now.  We bring up the same thing over and over again; when things like this happen to excuse their behavior  or too blame something other than what the cause actually was, which is society as a whole is failing...

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 05:21 AM

View Postquestionmark, on 01 February 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

Getting more professionals sure beats arming the janitors.

The point is much less that somebody did his bloody job, but why the system is so screwed up that you need armed guards to start with.
So much wrong with this post.   First of all, if a janitor is being paid as an armed guard, he is a professional.   Stopping school shooters would be doing his bloody job.

What does "the system" have to do with having armed guards?   You're still complaining about that even when lives get saved?   It's not the system, it's the society.   It's bad parenting.  It's a lack of respect for the cohesiveness of the only societal group that matters, the family.

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