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[Orcseeker]

Lilly, on 29 October 2012 - 10:19 AM, said:

In some ways though, looks (for females) is indeed "how you win in life". It's what ones "winning" that's disturbing. Even among older people (way older people) females are judged on their physical appearance. I have a 50 something single acqaintance (friend of a friend), she's 5' 2", light blonde, petite, slender, cute. Men are enthralled by her. She's a nice person and all, but she's clingy, needy, self absorbed, not very intellectual etc. Most of her interests revolve around going shopping and her plastic surgery. However, men just adore her...not for long though. She been married 3 times but generally her relationships only last about 6 months then she onto the next guy. A disposable lifestyle...very Brave New World.

The way I see it, if you are going to have a relationship with someone purely because of their looks or a majority of it, is stupidity. Those looks wont last forever nor will it make someone see you on a deeper, more intimate level. This woman might be able to attract a lot of guys but in the end, if her looks matter over her happiness to her, she will die unhappy. Sorry to say that is the reality and more people should recognise what really matters most.

[Orcseeker]

I might add on some online forums one woman's child, a 6 year old boy, described a picture of women as sexy. Apparently it was to do with lyrics from that cancer of a song Gangnam style. But I questioned her on how he attributed sexy to a suggestive picture in that sense and apparently has no knowledge of what that word meant. My argument was not acknowledged and was accused of defamatory remarks in the end... What has our world come to.

Moreso, people were commending the boys "taste" in women. The people saying that had pictures of themselves with their own kids! What has happened to our society? Why are these people allowed to breed?

Edited by Orcseeker, 30 October 2012 - 04:27 PM.

[Render]

With some pageant children it seems to be more about exploitation to ridicule, because it obviously isn't about beauty.

June Shannon herself has been criticized for her daughter's diet, which includes "Go Go Juice", a mixture of Red Bull and Mountain Dew that contains as much caffeine as two cups of coffee. The mix is used to get HBB ready for pageants.


The posts in this thread that address the fact that everyone is guilty for this phenomenon, are correct. It seems to be the equivalent of seeing someone get beaten up in a public area and everyone just stands around watching without doing anything.

Edited by Render, 30 October 2012 - 10:15 PM.

[glorybebe]

Render, on 30 October 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

With some pageant children it seems to be more about exploitation to ridicule, because it obviously isn't about beauty.

June Shannon herself has been criticized for her daughter's diet, which includes "Go Go Juice", a mixture of Red Bull and Mountain Dew that contains as much caffeine as two cups of coffee. The mix is used to get HBB ready for pageants.


The posts in this thread that address the fact that everyone is guilty for this phenomenon, are correct. It seems to be the equivalent of seeing someone get beaten up in a public area and everyone just stands around watching without doing anything.

And this isn't being investigated as child endangerment?  There are specific warnings on labels of energy drinks that they are not to be consumed by children.

[Orcseeker]

glorybebe, on 30 October 2012 - 10:35 PM, said:

And this isn't being investigated as child endangerment?  There are specific warnings on labels of energy drinks that they are not to be consumed by children.

A 14 year old recently died after drinking two cans over two days. Though she may have had a heart condition, these drinks are still not for little kids. Honey boo boo isnt even breaking double digits is she? Where are the social services?

[glorybebe]

Orcseeker, on 30 October 2012 - 11:01 PM, said:

A 14 year old recently died after drinking two cans over two days. Though she may have had a heart condition, these drinks are still not for little kids. Honey boo boo isnt even breaking double digits is she? Where are the social services?

Exactly!  That poor kid-all those poor kids.  They have lost their childhoods.  Doesn't anyone remember Jean-Benet Ramsey?  What is wrong with these parents?

[Leave Britney alone!]

The people wanting to see children being ripped from their parents are sick. Wish someone would have done that to them instead when they were little.

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

Chasingtherabbit, on 31 October 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:

The people wanting to see children being ripped from their parents are sick. Wish someone would have done that to them instead when they were little.

Exploiting them for a few minutes' fame on TV, thenm, is not sick?

[Old Man Waffles]

Those little girls don't look pretty, or beautiful. They just look vile. What parent would do that to their child? children shouldn't be dressed up as miniature adults. It's just so wrong.

[Lilly]

When little girls are objectified and judged against sexualised standards used for adult women nothing good can come of it IMO.

[joc]

Child Beauty pageants are not about the parents...they are not about the children...they are about MONEY!  I know from experience.  Not a lot...but enough.
A couple of years ago we received a letter from a Pageant.  The letter said that someone had recommended our daughter to be in the Pageant.  We could never get a straight answer from them as to who...but that didn't matter...in our daughters mind...someone recommended her and that was all that mattered.  So ...after about $500...we went to the Pageant.  What a crock.  It was supposed to be all about the Beauty on the Inside...and to some extent it was...but the lengths to which people went to doll up their kids was pathetic.  And in the end...what was the result?  A lot of broken hearted little girls and a lot of parents out big bucks!  So..who wins the Pageant?  The Pageant Directors win the Pageant...every single time!  I am sure that everyone of these girls received the same letter.  It is a crock designed to seperate Parents from their Money.  And...they know the pschology of how that letter affects both parents and children and they have it down to a science.

[sarah_444]

glorybebe, on 29 October 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

What I don't understand is how people can watch this crap on tv.  If the viewers wouldn't watch them, then the tv stations would drop them.  If you are that unhappy with your life-get a hobby!  Reality TV is eroding society IMO.

This is my constant argument with my sister in law. She loves to complain about the show but watches it religiously. I don't watch any of these pageant shows (I barely watch TV at all as it is). I think I've seen maybe half an hour of the show once and have no interest in seeing it again.  People love to complain about how controversial (and terrible) is and yet they keep watching. I know I'm not going to waste my time watching some batsh!t crazy parents give their two year old a fake tan or force them to wax their eyebrows.
Anyone remember when the "L" in TLC stood for "learning"?  Maybe they should change it to TFC, "The Freakshow Channel".

Edited by sarah_444, 31 October 2012 - 02:44 PM.

[CommunitarianKevin]

Lilly, on 29 October 2012 - 10:19 AM, said:

In some ways though, looks (for females) is indeed "how you win in life". It's what ones "winning" that's disturbing. Even among older people (way older people) females are judged on their physical appearance. I have a 50 something single acqaintance (friend of a friend), she's 5' 2", light blonde, petite, slender, cute. Men are enthralled by her. She's a nice person and all, but she's clingy, needy, self absorbed, not very intellectual etc. Most of her interests revolve around going shopping and her plastic surgery. However, men just adore her...not for long though. She been married 3 times but generally her relationships only last about 6 months then she onto the next guy. A disposable lifestyle...very Brave New World.

First off, I wouldn't call that "winning." So guys like her and she cannot stay in a relationship...That is not winning. Granted, men are just as much of the problem...I have never understood guys that are so turned on by the sterotypical big boobed, blonde, bimbos. I do not understand why men like porn stars or strippers...it is beyond me. I like a girl that is classy and intelligent. Sure I like the girl to look good, but I like natural beauty, not this crap they portray in pop culture.

glorybebe, on 29 October 2012 - 06:10 PM, said:

What I don't understand is how people can watch this crap on tv.  If the viewers wouldn't watch them, then the tv stations would drop them.  If you are that unhappy with your life-get a hobby!  Reality TV is eroding society IMO.

I know and this is why I refuse to watch this stuff. I have said this before. Why would people act any different than the kids you see on Jersey Shore? They are making money acting like that. I told my aunt that I would never watch garbage like "THe Girls Next Door." She asked, "why not?" I said "why don't you watch a show about socieoeconomic status..." She said "what's that?" I said "Exactly."

It is sad what our culture is entertained by. I personally find pop culture interesting but not for the celebs but the people that are so in love with them. It really tells one a lot about our culture...

Hilander, on 29 October 2012 - 07:58 PM, said:

The way they dress these little girls for the pageant I would be concerned about attracting the pedophiles.  Wonder how many of them put their childs picture on the internet for everyone to see.

I thought the same thing the other night when I saw a comercial for one of those shows...strippers dress more approiately in public than these girls do...People complain about pedophiles or guys that like young girls in general (teens) but then we sit there and force it down their throat...to their enjoyment I imagine...

But back to the main point...of course it is about the parents...I am sure most of the parents are fat losers that accompished nothing and were picked on in school. They have to live their life through their kids...

[Lilly]

HuttonEtAl, on 31 October 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

....I have never understood guys that are so turned on by the sterotypical big boobed, blonde, bimbos. I do not understand why men like porn stars or strippers...it is beyond me. I like a girl that is classy and intelligent. Sure I like the girl to look good, but I like natural beauty, not this crap they portray in pop culture.

Commendable, but you're probably in the minority.

See link here: http://www.telegraph...nds-survey.html

[joc]

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I told my aunt that I would never watch garbage like "THe Girls Next Door." She asked, "why not?" I said "why don't you watch a show about socieoeconomic status..." She said "what's that?" I said "Exactly."