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[JGirl]

zoser, on 22 December 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Can I just remind you of something in a non-challenging way?  Where is the evidence of an alternative hypothesis?  Where is this absolute concrete evidence to be found?

i never claimed concrete evidence. what has been repeatedly shown to you in this thread are alternative theories that have a foundation to build on.
the techniques proposed may or may not work, but at least they are tangible beginnings to explaining a complex and mysterious event. it has been shown to you in countless posts that your theories do not hold up to even marginal scrutiny because....wait for it...they lack a foundation.

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Edited by JGirl, 22 December 2012 - 09:52 PM.

[seeder]

zoser, on 22 December 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

It's not difficult if one is genuinely interested.  The information is there for those who seek it.  Thanks anyway.

yeh and so are the facts zoser....

[seeder]

zoser, on 22 December 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Where is the evidence of an alternative hypothesis?  Where is this absolute concrete evidence to be found?

BINGO! there is no concrete evidence to a hypothesis, if there were, it'd be a fact....

[LRW]

seeder, on 22 December 2012 - 09:18 PM, said:

yeh and so are the facts zoser....

Just out of curiousity, what do you believe engineered human DNA strands? Was it by chance? Or do you think there was an intelligent designer behind it?

Lastly, why do you think humans are a stand out intelligence amongst the earths fauna in general?  Where do you think humans developed the traits that are not seen amongst some creatures of the earths fauna?

What makes you think that humans are the only ones? What makes you think that they are the only super intelligent life forms that inhabit the earth?

You say you want evidence of others? what if those others are invisible to your sight? what then? does that make them less real to you, just because you can't see them or feel their presence? does that mean they don't exist?  

Religon tries to answer those questions, billions believe in christianity, they believe their extraterrestrial supernatural god created the cosmos and humans in the image of itself.

You said the ancient alien theory is fringe, its not as fringe as you think, because most religons deities can be described as having alien supernatural origin, whether fictitious or not.

Before you try to ridicule zoser for expressing his views, you might want to think about the billions that believe in the ominipresent invisible supernatural extraterrestrial so called god in christianity.

But, you are the one with all the facts though apparently? What do you think created humans?  Where are your facts for that?

Edited by LRW, 22 December 2012 - 09:44 PM.

[Imaginarynumber1]

zoser, on 22 December 2012 - 08:50 AM, said:

Andesite is a hard stone; and impossible to shape to that precision nursing stone age tools.  Granite and diorite was done elsewhere.

Do you realize that Puma Punku wasn't built by stone age people? It's only about 1500 years old.

[seeder]

LRW, on 22 December 2012 - 09:41 PM, said:

Just out of curiousity, what do you believe engineered human DNA strands? Was it by chance? Or do you think there was an intelligent designer behind it?

Lastly, why do you think humans are a stand out intelligence amongst the earths fauna in general?  Where do you think humans developed the traits that are not seen amongst some creatures of the earths fauna?

What makes you think that humans are the only ones? What makes you think that they are the only super intelligent life forms that inhabit the earth?

You say you want evidence of others? what if those others are invisible to your sight? what then? does that make them less real to you, just because you can't see them or feel their presence? does that mean they don't exist?  

Religon tries to answer those questions, billions believe in christianity, they believe their extraterrestrial supernatural god created the cosmos and humans in the image of itself.

You said the ancient alien theory is fringe, its not as fringe as you think, because most religons deities can be described as having alien supernatural origin, whether fictitious or not.

Before you try to ridicule zoser for expressing his views, you might want to think about the billions that believe in the ominipresent invisible supernatural extraterrestrial so called god in christianity.

But, you are the one with all the facts though apparently? What do you think created humans?  Where are your facts for that?

ask me again, but in the one sentence please?  And who designed a blade of grass and why?

and if i cut open an acorn in front of you and said 'show me the oak tree'.. well...could you do it? even tho its right there...can you point it out to me? For sure?

if so..... how? what could you show...to convince me?

Edited by seeder, 22 December 2012 - 09:53 PM.

[seeder]

Imaginarynumber1, on 22 December 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

Do you realize that Puma Punku wasn't built by stone age people? It's only about 1500 years old.

long after the ancient Egyptians perfected working with 'hard stones' that is...

[Imaginarynumber1]

seeder, on 22 December 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

long after the ancient Egyptians perfected working with 'hard stones' that is...

Right?

I love how Zoser switches topics as soon as he gets busted out. I say we stay on Puma Punku until his "hypothesis" is even more utterly destroyed than it already has been.

[LRW]

seeder, on 22 December 2012 - 09:48 PM, said:

ask me again, but in the one sentence please?  And who designed a blade of grass and why?

and if i cut open an acorn in front of you and said 'show me the oak tree'.. well...could you do it? even tho its right there...can you point it out to me? For sure?

if so..... how? what could you show...to convince me?

Seems like you don't have all the answers Mr Fact Machine.

Why oh why i am not surprised that you don't know all the answers for the real origin of humans and how they came into being.

When man did not have a microscope, he did not see the bugs that lived on him, he must have thought they were not real. If someone said that micoscopic bugs lived on him, he probably would have scoffed at the idea, very much like the way you scoffed at zosers ideas and attempt to ridicule his interesting theories and videos.

If the primitive thinking man was given the microscope to observe the bugs that lived on him, he would be surprised. The microscope is a window to see other life forms not visible with his human eye.

Be careful with what you can not see, but still are there, you have been very callous towards others expressing alternative versions of history, such people are trying to give a window into the past from what they have observed with their own research, if it came to be that they are right and the mainstream history & science conformists are wrong, then its the mainstream history and science conformists who are the real ones that spread lunacy.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Couldn't the ancients of Peru have been of the "bigger  rains makes you smarter" train of thought? the logical next stop for that train is at "make your head bigger so you have more brains" station. Now, while it is unusual for them to have connected "brain" and "intelligence" (as most ancient cultures put the centre of thought in your chest, a train of thought that gives us "gut feelings" to this day) it dosn't require aliens to be driving the train, just our old friens human imaginaton.

[seeder]

LRW, on 22 December 2012 - 10:33 PM, said:

Seems like you don't have all the answers Mr Fact Machine.

Why oh why i am not surprised that you don't know all the answers for the real origin of humans and how they came into being.

errm, does anyone else know? If so..pls state it?  factually of course?

'the real origins' eh...is that an implication all us real humans dont know something that you do?


here we go again...

Edited by seeder, 22 December 2012 - 10:45 PM.

[LRW]

seeder, on 22 December 2012 - 10:42 PM, said:

errm, does anyone else know? If so..pls state it?  factually of course?

'the real origins' eh...is that an implication all us real humans dont know something that you do?


here we go again...

So you ran out of facts Mr Fact Machine when the topic gets in depth and deeper.  

You can only guess about ancient primordial worlds, the same as others do, there are no facts, you are out of facts.

Edited by LRW, 22 December 2012 - 11:17 PM.

[seeder]

LRW, on 22 December 2012 - 11:16 PM, said:

So you ran out of facts Mr Fact Machine when the topic gets in depth and deeper.  

You can only guess about ancient primordial worlds, the same as others do, there are no facts, you are out of facts.

no facts eh? that must mean then, its exactly the same for you? so what do you hope to prove?

Go on then, present your case..... in depth and deeper, based on the fact - you say there are no facts?

Do you see how stupid what you say is?  donut!

yawn...

Edited by seeder, 22 December 2012 - 11:24 PM.

[JGirl]

LRW, on 22 December 2012 - 11:16 PM, said:

So you ran out of facts Mr Fact Machine when the topic gets in depth and deeper.  

You can only guess about ancient primordial worlds, the same as others do, there are no facts, you are out of facts.

seems like you are trolling a bit here

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

LRW, on 22 December 2012 - 11:16 PM, said:

So you ran out of facts Mr Fact Machine when the topic gets in depth and deeper.  

You can only guess about ancient primordial worlds, the same as others do, there are no facts, you are out of facts.

So because we don't know the exact facts, anything is possible?
Well in that case, the unvierse was farted into existence by a time travelling panda called Ping-Pong.