Obama slams Clinton as Liar

[Lord Umbarger]

It seems like even the Democratic Messiah has turned his back on every Lefties favorite U.S. president. One just has to wonder which liar lies best when lying about a liar! Personally, I think they are BOTH full of beans and Obama is looking more like a Socialist in Bush clothing. I guess now the Left will have to decide which left is the RIGHT left and which left is to be LEFT behind.

It's not exactly a man-bites-dog story when someone accuses Bill Clinton of stretching the truth, but when it's a president of his own party, and when what he calls Clinton is a "bald-faced" liar, and when that president happens to employ Clinton's wife as the Secretary of State, well, yes, that's kind of newsworthy.

That's one of the juicier morsels in Renegade: The Making of a President," a new campaign book by Richard Wolffe, who covered the 2008 presidential race for Newsweek. Wolffe also quotes Barack Obama as referring during the campaign to former President Clinton as "a loose cannon."

These quotations are sourced directly to Obama himself, and come out of interviews the author did with "the candidate," as Wolffe calls him in a conscious emulation of Kennedy campaign biographer Theodore White. That Obama cooperated with Wolffe is obvious; in fact, it appears that the idea for the book may originally have been Obama's. Revealingly, the tension in Wolffe's narrative is elevated when he's writing about the nomination fight between Obama and Hillary Clinton more than when he chronicles the runoff between Obama and John McCain. This is as it should be. Not only was the Obama-Clinton contest closer than the Obama-McCain duel, it was longer, more bitter, more interesting, and more historic.

Bald faced lies HERE!

[zitro1987]

oops

I can't disagree with Obama here tho.

[SRCivic98]

Well Obama should've said that Clinton lied about not having relations with Monica, ha, ha. But other than that I don't think he should be turning on his own party expecially when it's on one of the most famous democrats ever to run the white house from January 1993 all the way up to January 2001. But I too agree that Obama is turning this once semi-free nation into a full scale socialist government also known as a communist government. Which when this happens everyone is an enemy and everyone is a suspected terrorist because someone that sits in a seat of power never gives it up that easily. So brace your self people and get ready to see the green turn red.

[InHuman]

Politicians don't always like each other?

GASP.

[WoIverine]

Irony at its finest. lol

Edited June 4, 2009 by SpIdErCyDe

[MirrorImage]

I read your title and the first thing that popped in to my head was the old Johnny Cash song, The One on the Right was on the Left

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnnycash/...sontheleft.html

[WoIverine]

I read your title and the first thing that popped in to my head was the old Johnny Cash song, The One on the Right was on the Left

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnnycash/...sontheleft.html

LOL! That was awesome.

[D1CKY D1AMOND]

Well Obama should've said that Clinton lied about not having relations with Monica, ha, ha. But other than that I don't think he should be turning on his own party expecially when it's on one of the most famous democrats ever to run the white house from January 1993 all the way up to January 2001. But I too agree that Obama is turning this once semi-free nation into a full scale socialist government also known as a communist government. Which when this happens everyone is an enemy and everyone is a suspected terrorist because someone that sits in a seat of power never gives it up that easily. So brace your self people and get ready to see the green turn red.

Obama is not turning the US into a communist nation.

What he is doing though is trying to socialize certain aspects of the economy and industry making the US more like Canada which has the best economy in the world.

Also socialism is not communism, while there are many similarities there are stark differences between the 2.

The USA cannot afford to last another 10 years, the rest of the world will only keep giving money so as it can buy time to restructure so that the American collapse is easy on the world. I wouldn't worry about Obama so much as I would making sure I could weather total and complete financial collapse on the scale of great depression or worse.

[WoIverine]

I wouldn't worry about Obama so much as I would making sure I could weather total and complete financial collapse on the scale of great depression or worse.

I'll eat every one of you people, I will not starve!

[MirrorImage]

I'll eat every one of you people, I will not starve!

Im going on a diet, I'll be so skinny and tough that you wouldnt want to waste the energy trying to chew me!

Seriously though...ALL politicians lie, why should Clinton, or Obama be any different? If they told us the truth, we wouldnt have much to complain about.

Edited June 4, 2009 by MirrorImage

[WoIverine]

Im going on a diet, I'll be so skinny and tough that you wouldnt want to waste the energy trying to chew me!

Seriously though...ALL politicians lie, why should Clinton, or Obama be any different? If they told us the truth, we wouldnt have much to complain about.

Bah! Foiled again. Curses!

Edited June 4, 2009 by SpIdErCyDe

[Lord Umbarger]

Obama is not turning the US into a communist nation.

Socialized medicine, socializing the banks.... rather one agrees that it needs to be done or should be done or not, the truth is that it is making the country more like a socialist nation and that isn't always good.

What he is doing though is trying to socialize certain aspects of the economy and industry making the US more like Canada which has the best economy in the world.

There are many that would disagree with that one. For one thing, it is not the largest or most bustliong economy. California, if it were a nation unto itself, woudl have a more booming economy than Canada. Not to insult Canada, it is a wonderful place and all but, there really isn't a lot of economy when you compare it to teh United States and the economy that we have enjoyed for the last umpteen decades.

Also socialism is not communism, while there are many similarities there are stark differences between the 2.

True! Socialism is a system that has a transitional government that is supposed to fill the interim until the people learn to live as Communists. Communism implies that there is no government over the population. Sort of like Anarchy with out all the hell raisers! LOL!

The USA cannot afford to last another 10 years, the rest of the world will only keep giving money so as it can buy time to restructure so that the American collapse is easy on the world.

At last that I heard, neither the world or the IMF was giving money to the US. From what the word is, it's pretty much the other way around. In fact, even in the deepest part of our finacial depression so far, we are still doing better than most of the rest of the world.

I wouldn't worry about Obama so much as I would making sure I could weather total and complete financial collapse on the scale of great depression or worse.

I may differ with you on a number of things but, here I am whole heartedly on board with you.

Personally, I suggest stocking up on canned goods that you know that you won't mind eating, not just the stuff that is on sale but, the stuff you already use. Then, if/when it does go bad, for what ever reason, you can rest assured that you have stuff that you like and it won't e such a change. At least not at first. I'd also suggest buying a few extra boxes of ammo from time to time too. Not like a truck load at one time but, if you are normally shooting say 100 rounds a week, buy maybe 120 rounds from now on and put that extra twenty aside for that time that we hope doesn't come. Doing it this way insures that you dont't break the bank or run up the cost of your ammo.

As a side note, I am NOT a lawyer or a survival expert and I am sure that some of my advice might not work for you or your situation. As with all things, read as much as you can and become a specialist in YOUR needs. Have fun!

[Lt_Ripley]

so this is about what happened during the campaign... guess what cons called each other would never had been brought up had one been elected ?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21207382/

anything more to whine about ?

[Stardrive]

yessir, that is what I remember happening during the primaries...

It makes me wonder why so many people are starting to pay attention now... so long after the fact.

[Lord Umbarger]

Seriously though...ALL politicians lie, why should Clinton, or Obama be any different? If they told us the truth, we wouldnt have much to complain about.

If ANY of them told the truth, the whoel truth and nothing but, the truth, we'd never elect them in the first place!

anything more to whine about ?

Give me a minute. I'm sure that I'll think of something!

Someone flew the Lybian flag upside down and I can't stand it!

Better? LOL! ! !

[KRS-One]

Always cracks me up that the only people calling Obama the "Messiah" and "The One" are right wingers with no point to make.

[Lord Umbarger]

...calling Obama the "Messiah" and "The One" are right wingers...

Actually, the first known instance of that term being applied to Obama was Louis Farrakhan, a radical black muslim and devout socialist.

[WoIverine]

Actually, the first known instance of that term being applied to Obama was Louis Farrakhan, a radical black muslim and devout socialist.

I actually wonder how many lemmings will blindy follow Obama's vision of "spreading the wealth around", which in turn will do very little for any of us, if anything at all. I doubt McCain would have had any effect at all either. Those who put their hopes, dreams, and faith into a politician, prepare for dissappointment.

Edited June 5, 2009 by SpIdErCyDe

[KRS-One]

Actually, the first known instance of that term being applied to Obama was Louis Farrakhan, a radical black muslim and devout socialist.

So one extremist says this one time, and suddenly that's the entire left's vision of him. Nice. Shows how much more of an echo chamber the right is.

[Leonardo]

Socialized medicine, socializing the banks.... rather one agrees that it needs to be done or should be done or not, the truth is that it is making the country more like a socialist nation and that isn't always good.

There are very good arguments for socialising those aspects of the economy/nation that are currently being socialised. One of the best arguments for it is the, so far, completely ineffectual self-regulation that has been allowed under a free-market system. It seems that idealistic notions (such as a responsible free-market economy or sector of business) do not survive against the basic human weakness of greed.

Not saying that socialising these sectors will be any better, but something has to be done to change the corrupt system that was in place.

There are many that would disagree with that one. For one thing, it is not the largest or most bustliong economy. California, if it were a nation unto itself, woudl have a more booming economy than Canada. Not to insult Canada, it is a wonderful place and all but, there really isn't a lot of economy when you compare it to teh United States and the economy that we have enjoyed for the last umpteen decades.

California is virtually bankrupt, so it's probably not the best comparison you could have made.

True! Socialism is a system that has a transitional government that is supposed to fill the interim until the people learn to live as Communists. Communism implies that there is no government over the population. Sort of like Anarchy with out all the hell raisers! LOL!

Ah! The solidly illogical argument of the fearfully ignorant! "If we leave A and go to B then we have to go on to C" might sound quite rational, but actually going from A to B then back to A is quite as possible (in fact far more likely) than the scenario you describe.

[Dr. D]

I think it's interesting that when a book claims that Obama said something, the right wingers jump on it and expand it for all it's worth . . . .

When a book claimed that Bush called the Constitution a "damned piece of paper," the same right wingers claimed it was only a book and no one could believe what someone wrote just to sell books . . . .

[KRS-One]

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Edited June 7, 2009 by KRS-One

[acidhead]

Who's on first?