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[aztek]

Gromdor, on 22 February 2013 - 11:54 PM, said:

It's going to be an export fighter, meaning we are selling it to countries overseas.  Italy, Canada, Japan, Australia, and 4 other countries are buying it.

even thou usa sells planes to  ally's, none of those planes have same capability's as planes in usa.  they get same airframes and engines, but avionics and radars are not the same.

they are ally's today, tomorrow may be different, iran is an example, usa sold them f 14s, back in the days.

Edited by aztek, 23 February 2013 - 01:10 AM.

[aztek]

AsteroidX, on 22 February 2013 - 11:37 PM, said:

Im not sure how much were allowed to talk about the F-35's capabilities outside of America. Sorry.

none of us here knows info that is not allowed to talk about,

[Yamato]

Lightning recently grounded the F-35 variant known as Lightning II because its engineers discovered it could explode if hit by lightning.

It's a gigantic disappointment in performance, a Yugo priced like a Ferrari paraphrasing Winslow Wheeler.   Canada pulled its orders for the F-35 completely.

It's probably the ultimate evidence that we can't build anything worth a damn anymore.   Our weapons proficiency hung on a little bit longer than our consumer products.   China will stamp out superior aircraft for pennies on the dollar and our government will contract to buy theirs.   Keynesians probably think we're going to sell more debt to make the purchase; good luck with that ruse continuing much longer.

[aztek]

Yamato, on 23 February 2013 - 12:54 AM, said:

Lightning recently grounded the F-35 variant known as Lightning II because its engineers discovered it could explode if hit by lightning.

lol. when will they learn, names do matter, lightning II,  Phobos-Grunt (grunt- Russian for ground.).......etc,.

[Rafterman]

Yes, it has had lots of problems, but name a weapons system that hasn't.

It will all get fixed and 20 years from now we'll be talking about it like the F16 and F15 - which were plagued with the same kind of problems too.

[shrooma]

Gummug, on 22 February 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

what's wrong with the F-22? I'm not sure there's even anything out there that can touch it. (I'm not up on air weapon systems though.)

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an eurofighter typhoon would scrap it!

[shrooma]

$400bn can't be right, can it?? can it?!
that's more than some company directors earn in a year, so it can't be right surely?
can it??

[MichaelW]

When you'r creating a high-tech multi-role stealth fighter with the latest technology and avionics, you're not going to have much change after $90-100 billion for R&D, testing, sourcing of parts. Don't forget that Lockheed made it overly complicated by sourcing the F-35's parts from 1500 different contractors in 48 states.

[shrooma]

yeah, but still, $400bn is a HELLUVA lot of money! when the eurofighter ended up $8bn over budget, people got DISAPPEARED over it!
you guys have some pretty top-notch stuff over there, with probably the best equipped armed forces in the world, and I mean, what the hell happened?!
you can run COUNTRIES on that sort of money!!
must be a pretty kick-ass plane!

[The Silver Thong]

Today its altitude  and steath. Make drones that fly high and send missles down on any jet fighter. Duh

[shrooma]

The Silver Thong, on 23 February 2013 - 06:47 AM, said:

Today its altitude  and steath. Make drones that fly high and send missles down on any jet fighter. Duh

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(i'm struggling to think of any drone with an operational ceiling that would put it above a jetfighter....?)

[Gummug]

shrooma, on 23 February 2013 - 04:32 AM, said:

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an eurofighter typhoon would scrap it!

I can't help but wonder, with our economy and educational system seeming to be going down the drain, how much longer we can maintain a lead in technology/military strength. One of our generals (I think it was, I don't remember his name though) said, "the greatest threat to national security is the national debt" (and I paraphrased). It seems the whole world is falling into darkness...

[The Silver Thong]

shrooma, on 23 February 2013 - 07:00 AM, said:

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(i'm struggling to think of any drone with an operational ceiling that would put it above a jetfighter....?)

Weaponized satalites. With no pilot we can fly a missle system for years in leo. If I can find my stolen car using my phone I think they can track and target planes. Stealh would be the key. Most nations will not need f-35 as its a scam to make the 1 percent richer.  Lets talk stealth missiles

[shrooma]

Gummug, on 23 February 2013 - 07:04 AM, said:

"the greatest threat to national security is the national debt"

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imagine how many hospitals, schools, and homes you could build with $400bn....?

[shrooma]

The Silver Thong, on 23 February 2013 - 07:12 AM, said:

Weaponized satalites. With no pilot we can fly a missle system for years in leo.

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i'm pretty sure orbital weapon platforms are banned?