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#16    Wyrdlight

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 06:38 PM

View PostRockabyeBillie, on 09 April 2013 - 06:16 PM, said:

Because Americans treat each other like **** and people tend to get fed up and snap.

BTW I live in the US.

Yeah... I think its a mindset thing, many Americans I have met/spoken too have a very inward looking "fortress" style attitude.

"Its MY home"

"Its MY land"

"These are MY rights"

"Its MY space"

"Its MY opinion"

All of the above are often framed in very... agressive almost militant terms the like of which I cant recall finding in people from other places in the world I have spoken too.  And instead of having a chat about it, or asking some polite questions it seems the go-to response for any percived infringement upon the above is a violent one.  I dont really know why.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 06:43 PM

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All of the above are often framed in very... agressive almost militant terms the like of which I cant recall finding in people from other places in the world I have spoken too.  And instead of having a chat about it, or asking some polite questions it seems the go-to response for any percived infringement upon the above is a violent one.  I dont really know why.

Thats because these very things are being attacked. Therefore people feel the need to defend themselves. Trust me people werent this uptight about things before they started trying to take them away.

We were just jobless and running out of monmey and getting poorer and poorer trying to work our way out of it by any means possible. But alas that feelgood moment is passed and we are where we are today. Dont expect for a moment the American people are going to roll over for this socialist aka fascist approach to removing our fundamental rights that were what this country was based on. The Constitution.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 06:52 PM

View PostRockabyeBillie, on 09 April 2013 - 06:14 PM, said:

Well I've never gunned anyone down or stabbed anybody to death, so I might be in the clear!
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:04 PM

That sicko is going to go down big time.

I hope for the recovery of those injured.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:30 PM

And he didn't even need to reload....... bah this subject is starting to get tedious. Do any of the anti gun people see that this is a people problem and not a tool problem yet? Probably not I suppose. This is tragic. This whole debacle is absolutely tragic. 11 or 15 however many doesn't really matter. A lot of lives were effected today.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:30 PM

View PostRavenHawk, on 09 April 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

http://www.unexplain...howtopic=246038http://www.theatlant...-college/64046/
Where's the MSM calling for banning knives?

We need a vote to make it harder for our children to be knifed down!

They're quite rightly banned over here. But the point is that a knife has a practical purpose, like a shovel or a hammer. A gun, however, is designed specifically to kill people (and other things). And it is FAR easier for an unarmed man to take out a guy with a knife, rather than one with a gun.

Guns are for pussies. :D

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:39 PM

View PostAsteroidX, on 09 April 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

Thats because these very things are being attacked. Therefore people feel the need to defend themselves. Trust me people werent this uptight about things before they started trying to take them away.

We were just jobless and running out of monmey and getting poorer and poorer trying to work our way out of it by any means possible. But alas that feelgood moment is passed and we are where we are today. Dont expect for a moment the American people are going to roll over for this socialist aka fascist approach to removing our fundamental rights that were what this country was based on. The Constitution.

Socialist is Fascist?

My main point, is that the go-to response is one of irrational anger.

By way of example.

In the USA if a child/young adult/adult is feeling isolated and bullied etc etc a fairly "common" response appears to be "Ill show em! Ill show em all! will make them all pay!" Some of them then go and grab an m16, wander onto campus and mow down a dozen or so people, most of whom would have likely never met the offender.

Its not a rational response, it simply does not really happen in other countries.  Even if you feel your "rights" are being infringed upon, the rational response is not mass slaughter.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:46 PM

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In the USA if a child/young adult/adult is feeling isolated and bullied etc etc a fairly "common" response appears to be "Ill show em! Ill show em all! will make them all pay!" Some of them then go and grab an m16, wander onto campus and mow down a dozen or so people, most of whom would have likely never met the offender.

every one of those kids was prescribed medications that indicate that type of behavior as a side effect. So thats a mental health issue at the minimum. But yeah dont know what the prescribing practices are in other places but the term handing them out like candy is used here.




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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:54 PM

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In the USA if a child/young adult/adult is feeling isolated and bullied etc etc a fairly "common" response appears to be "Ill show em! Ill show em all! will make them all pay!" Some of them then go and grab an m16, wander onto campus and mow down a dozen or so people, most of whom would have likely never met the offender.


I wouldn't say that it was anywhere near a common response, or there would be no bullies left.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:57 PM

View PostWyrdlight, on 09 April 2013 - 06:38 PM, said:

Yeah... I think its a mindset thing, many Americans I have met/spoken too have a very inward looking "fortress" style attitude.

"Its MY home"

"Its MY land"

"These are MY rights"

"Its MY space"

"Its MY opinion"

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Probably because int he UK especially we are all slaves to the system and nobody even cares about it. lol

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:58 PM

View PostExpandMyMind, on 09 April 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

I wouldn't say that it was anywhere near a common response, or there would be no bullies left.

Well, maybe not "common" but the fact still remains that this sort of thing occurs in the USA more than other nations.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:03 PM

View PostCoffey, on 09 April 2013 - 07:57 PM, said:




Probably because int he UK especially we are all slaves to the system and nobody even cares about it. lol

Its not that we dont care I think, if im honest I think its because we generally have a far more civilised attitude towards things.  We settle things either by using words or by simply getting on with it.

We dont go "woe is me, im hard done by, get me a therapist, a bible and a box of 9mm rounds"

We (in my experiance) either complain via the correct channels, go to our local MP or do that most British of things "Make a fuss" that is to say, mutter and be jolly cross in a sustained, low level public fashion until everyone else catches on a its sorted out.  Or we go "meh, what can you do?" gloss over it and get on with life.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:05 PM

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Well, maybe not "common" but the fact still remains that this sort of thing occurs in the USA more than other nations.

Like say for instance....Nigeria ? Afghanistan ? Palestine ? Mexico ? Rwanda ? Libya ? Egypt ? Syria ? these things happen all over the world we just have a thing media sensationalism that drives these things into the MSM and they try to outcompete each other for coverage.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:06 PM

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We (in my experiance) either complain via the correct channels, go to our local MP or do that most British of things "Make a fuss" that is to say, mutter and be jolly cross in a sustained, low level public fashion until everyone else catches on a its sorted out.  Or we go "meh, what can you do?" gloss over it and get on with life.

Hell maybe we should pay homage to the Queen again if its all that grand.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 08:12 PM

View PostWyrdlight, on 09 April 2013 - 08:03 PM, said:

Its not that we dont care I think, if im honest I think its because we generally have a far more civilised attitude towards things.  We settle things either by using words or by simply getting on with it.

We dont go "woe is me, im hard done by, get me a therapist, a bible and a box of 9mm rounds"

We (in my experiance) either complain via the correct channels, go to our local MP or do that most British of things "Make a fuss" that is to say, mutter and be jolly cross in a sustained, low level public fashion until everyone else catches on a its sorted out.  Or we go "meh, what can you do?" gloss over it and get on with life.


Our MP's only look after themselves and their own. In the UK most people prefer to give up their freedom for safety and they sit their blaming the MP's and doing nothing about it.  OK the US is similar to a degree, but they at least have more freedom than us. Damn I have to get a taxi to go to the local Archery range just cause I can't carry my crossbow there in public. I can't carry my survival knives with me if I got on a bush craft/survival weekend unless I drive or get a lift by people. (don't have a car at the moment for a few reasons) I'm the kind of person who would save innocent peoples lives with those things if I ever where to sue them on someone. I prefer int he US that some scumbag will most likely be shot instead of going to prison and having a great time.


I had to save like mad to get a decent recording studio, I went without a lot of things to do it (including selling my car etc) I struggle to pay my bills, I can't always eat good food. Then I hear that on a TV program they showed this guy in prison for murder was using a really top of the range recording studio that they had installed int he prison for the prisoners to use?!!!!!!! It made my studio look pathetic. Free dental, free healthcare, free good food, free internet, free PS3, free laundry.... Damn sometimes I feel like jsut going to prison for a weekend to chill out and relax. lol Our prisons are over crowded and cost us so much.

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