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#61    sickpuppy

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 11:07 AM

[from 2 pages back or whatever]

you know very well i can't prove it.. i'd make some money off it if i could, eh?
you know very well i can't be assed bringing smatterings of facts or whatever you want to call them...

i was already trained to do these calculations.. [shrugs]
- you just want to see how the 'dumb kid' solved the so called difficult maths problem.. you want to see how i worked it out...

why? ..when you don't even have that final answer to even compare it to?

i just helped you cheat, and gave you that answer..

and you're still not satisfied? ...it seems some people are hard to please.



what was the term you used? - moonlighting ...yeah .. ok... you keep fritterin' away on that problem then..  us dumb kids are going to play now :st


[edit] lucky you - check this out (another analogy, only this time.. there is a smattering of facts that show how the math problem was solved.. you need only read the first post, ok.. it's not going to eat up much of your time..)
http://www.unexplain...howtopic=230803

Edited by unit, 27 July 2012 - 11:16 AM.

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 11:44 AM

There are two distinct groups of people who see meaningful connections, where the majority do not. The unusually perceptive, and on the other hand the deluded and/or paranoid. Be careful you don't fit the profile of the latter too closely, Unit.


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 01:15 PM

View PostHabitat, on 27 July 2012 - 11:44 AM, said:

There are two distinct groups of people who see meaningful connections, where the majority do not. The unusually perceptive, and on the other hand the deluded and/or paranoid. Be careful you don't fit the profile of the latter too closely, Unit.

Going to disagree because they are the same type of people, it is the same mechanism within. For some it is expressed as creativity, for others schizotypy, and for others it could express themselves as both. The environment, how others accept us or not, and what materials we ourselves choose to engage in might have a great effect on how it is expressed.


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 04:06 PM

@#53 Number Fingers: Unprecedented because this is the first time that scientists have measured such an amount of ice being melted. And similar melting events may have taken place every 150 years or so, but no one has measured how much quantity of ice had melted then...so yes..it is unprecedented.


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 05:51 PM

Meh, if its going to happen its going to happen.

To me its about tax etc.

But still,

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 08:13 AM

View Postrusting, on 27 July 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

@#53 Number Fingers: Unprecedented because this is the first time that scientists have measured such an amount of ice being melted. And similar melting events may have taken place every 150 years or so, but no one has measured how much quantity of ice had melted then...so yes..it is unprecedented.

Unfortunately, this report doesn't mention anything about the true amount of ice which melted, only the size of the total area that did see "some melting".  Of course, when the report refers to "some melting," this can mean refer to just the slightest bit of melting, even just for ten minutes that day.  It'd be nice to get more detailed data for all this.

Many of these blogs are trying to trick people into believing that 97% of the entire glacier actually thawed-out.  That's the most frustrating and disgusting part of things like this.  Nobody can just stop and think for a second.  Look at some of the actual temperatures.  There were a few days where the temperature rose to 1 or 2 degrees Celsius for half the day and then went back below freezing by night.  Rinse and repeat for a few days.  On the last day of warming, when the temperature was +2 in the day, it went down to -20 at night.  Anything that melted froze again.  

They're acting like temperatures went up to 30 Celsius for the whole week or something and burned through the entire glacier nonstop and now the end of the world has arrived as sea levels rise and swallow us all.  Why are people so desperate for the end of the world to show up?  Probably because they know that nothing bad will happen and they hate the idea of it.


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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:08 AM

View PostNumber Fingers, on 28 July 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:

Unfortunately, this report doesn't mention anything about the true amount of ice which melted, only the size of the total area that did see "some melting".  Of course, when the report refers to "some melting," this can mean refer to just the slightest bit of melting, even just for ten minutes that day.  It'd be nice to get more detailed data for all this.

Many of these blogs are trying to trick people into believing that 97% of the entire glacier actually thawed-out.  That's the most frustrating and disgusting part of things like this.  Nobody can just stop and think for a second.  Look at some of the actual temperatures.  There were a few days where the temperature rose to 1 or 2 degrees Celsius for half the day and then went back below freezing by night.  Rinse and repeat for a few days.  On the last day of warming, when the temperature was +2 in the day, it went down to -20 at night.  Anything that melted froze again.  

They're acting like temperatures went up to 30 Celsius for the whole week or something and burned through the entire glacier nonstop and now the end of the world has arrived as sea levels rise and swallow us all.  Why are people so desperate for the end of the world to show up?  Probably because they know that nothing bad will happen and they hate the idea of it.
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Posted 30 July 2012 - 02:26 PM

They are talking about surface ice melt...that...to me...sounds rather vague.  How deep is this melt?  6 inches (150 mm +/-)?  3 inches?

I do believe things are happening to our planet.  I do not believe it is unprecedented.  We know for a fact that at one point in ancient hisory, Antarctica was not ice capped.  Was that man's fault....erm...no...it wasn't.  There has been cycles of extreme heating and cooling over and over again...it is what happens.

I do believe we humans are making things worse.  We are coughing our more co2 than ever before...and it is a cascading effect.  When the permafrost starts melting, all the trapped gases within it will be released and that will accelerate the process....we might end up nearly like Venus...we are a little further from the sun so I doubt the temps will get that extreme...but I am going to guess it "could" get to a level that only certain life forms will be able to exist.

But consider this....Nature is a cycle...just because we are cognizant and self aware does not entitle us to immortality as a species.  If the cycle ramps up at the wrong time...we go the path of the Dinosaurs and the mega-fauna of the last ice age.

You do realize the records show this planet has been extremely hot with no ice and has had cycles of "snowball earth" when it was completely ice covered...what has gone before will come again.

Edited by Jeremiah65, 30 July 2012 - 02:31 PM.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 01:29 AM

HHMM just the other day I noticed there is still some snow on a couple of peaks just out side Livingston,Mt.. Normally it would be gone by the middle of June, and they didn't really get that much snow this winter. Has more to do with the way our orbit tilt is right now. Ice core sampling is flawed from the start as in warmer times there will be NO core sample due to melt off during these periods. No ice core record would exist because the snow melted and left NO record. No way to tell how long those warm periods existed.

What a scientist says about it. HERE

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 12:36 AM

View PostEmma_Acid, on 25 July 2012 - 04:53 PM, said:

Nope. It was named Greenland in an effort to get fellow Scandinavian settlers to move there.




Firstly, I didn't say that the earth was heating up. That's irrelevant. I'm saying that our effect on the planet is irreversible, and we will make it drastically less inhabitable if we carry on thinking exponential growth can continue indefinitely (it can't). Simply not wanting to pay tax and saying its some upper class conspiracy is selfish and naive.

If we all stopped producing CO2 tomorrow it would take roughly 30,000 years for us to effect the temperature of the earth by 1 degree.

Plus adding to my above post: They do not account for wind chill factors, drifting etc. now if they were to be able to say take a 2 mile radius core all at once perhaps they could get a better picture of the situation. What gets me here though they omit everything they can't explain away. Such as how the temperature dropped drastically for 800 years but the CO2 level remained the same for 1,800. After the fact that temperature rose then was followed later with a rise in CO2 by 150 to 300 years later. There are so many holes in the THEORY which they have never been able recreate in a LAB = BLIND FAITH.  :td:  OH and another thing water vapor is the number 1 green house gas so it would make more sense to tax the hell out of Star Bucks for making steam. Or should we boycott Star Bucks?

Edited by cerberusxp, 03 August 2012 - 01:21 AM.

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Posted 04 August 2012 - 11:49 PM


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