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So what's the deal with this new flag of Earth, the official representative image of Earth that's supposedly meant to be placed on Mars in some future expeditions? Why do we need a flag? The premise of putting a flag on something is claiming that it is in fact your property, can we claim that Mars will someday be our property? I think the idea of the flag in space is ridiculous, the fact that a human being is in space and on Mars is a premise enough that invokes pride and joy in everyone, or at least it should... What do you think

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are you saying humans are flags, why they dont wave in wind then, until you figure that out, the flag is necessary

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Unless it's the flag established in Futurama I refuse to acknowledge it's importance

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You can't plant a Earth flag on Mars, as you can it already has its own.

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the fact that a human being is in space and on Mars is a premise enough that invokes pride and joy in everyone, or at least it should... What do you think

What I think is that you have missed the point entirely.

When NASA landed astronauts on the moon they placed a plaque there which contained the words, "for all mankind," and yet they raised the Stars and Stripes. The raising of a national flag on a expedition of discovery is traditional. In the case of the moon, however, it did not represent a US claim of ownership of the moon. The UN Outer Space Treaty (of which the US is a signatory) forbids any nation claiming ownership of any celestial body. The US flag was raised as a result of tradition, national pride and for propaganda purposes but there are still thise that believe that the US made some sort of claim to own the moon.

NASA now has it's eyes set on Mars. That mission may well be international (the Orion spacecraft which will take them there will be partly made in Europe). In designing a flag to represent the entire world NASA are reflecting the multi-national nature of that mission. They will also be able to use the phrase, "for all mankind", without accusations of hypocrisy and jingoism whilst maintaining the centuries old traditions of the explorer.

The idea of the flag is the exact opposite of what you are claiming.

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What I think is that you have missed the point entirely.

When NASA landed astronauts on the moon they placed a plaque there which contained the words, "for all mankind," and yet they raised the Stars and Stripes. The raising of a national flag on a expedition of discovery is traditional. In the case of the moon, however, it did not represent a US claim of ownership of the moon. The UN Outer Space Treaty (of which the US is a signatory) forbids any nation claiming ownership of any celestial body. The US flag was raised as a result of tradition, national pride and for propaganda purposes but there are still thise that believe that the US made some sort of claim to own the moon.

NASA now has it's eyes set on Mars. That mission may well be international (the Orion spacecraft which will take them there will be partly made in Europe). In designing a flag to represent the entire world NASA are reflecting the multi-national nature of that mission. They will also be able to use the phrase, "for all mankind", without accusations of hypocrisy and jingoism whilst maintaining the centuries old traditions of the explorer.

The idea of the flag is the exact opposite of what you are claiming.

I wouldn't mind if they at some point start exploiting the resources of mars if they find any and make profits out of it.

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Unless it's the flag established in Futurama I refuse to acknowledge it's importance

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Well, dammit. You beat me to it.

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are you saying humans are flags, why they dont wave in wind then, until you figure that out, the flag is necessary

Not sure if you're being serious but it doesn't matter, I think I made my point relatively understandable

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What I think is that you have missed the point entirely.

When NASA landed astronauts on the moon they placed a plaque there which contained the words, "for all mankind," and yet they raised the Stars and Stripes. The raising of a national flag on a expedition of discovery is traditional. In the case of the moon, however, it did not represent a US claim of ownership of the moon. The UN Outer Space Treaty (of which the US is a signatory) forbids any nation claiming ownership of any celestial body. The US flag was raised as a result of tradition, national pride and for propaganda purposes but there are still thise that believe that the US made some sort of claim to own the moon.

NASA now has it's eyes set on Mars. That mission may well be international (the Orion spacecraft which will take them there will be partly made in Europe). In designing a flag to represent the entire world NASA are reflecting the multi-national nature of that mission. They will also be able to use the phrase, "for all mankind", without accusations of hypocrisy and jingoism whilst maintaining the centuries old traditions of the explorer.

The idea of the flag is the exact opposite of what you are claiming.

Sure, when put that way it makes sense. But I was going for the big picture, one that maybe doesn't deserve being pursued but I'll try anyway: Why should Earth "claim" Mars, or as you say remain in the tradition of the explorer.Why shouldn't the tradition change, I mean it's a very different thing when exploring on your planet and then you make a tradition on your planet and then you hold on to the tradition on a another planet. I mean, I'm not idiotic and I understand the relative absurdity of my question but when you place yourself in the position of an objective observer you see a planet destroying species making yet another claim on a planet in outer space... I'm not sure if I clarified anything, but hey that's what forums are for! :)

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Planting a flag on an extraterrestrial planet is simply a conceit. It feeds into the idea of ownership and possession. I find it pointless and embarrassing. Did Marco Polo plant flags? NO.

Ridiculous Grandstanding IMO

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I'm so tired of hating on the human race being the hip thing to do.

If we ever get to Mars those damn impressive men and women should absolutely raise a flag to all the hard work, dedication and sacrifice required to make it there.

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I'm so tired of hating on the human race being the hip thing to do.

If we ever get to Mars those damn impressive men and women should absolutely raise a flag to all the hard work, dedication and sacrifice required to make it there.

Yeah. because I like to reward myself for being amazing and hardworking and everything by planting a flag! :D

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Well, they could leave grafity on rocks to prove to future generations someone else really had been there. Then you'd have the environmentalists up in arms.

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Yeah. because I like to reward myself for being amazing and hardworking and everything by planting a flag! :D

Like always, you have missed the entire point.

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I'm wary of flags.

From "Dressed to Kill", Eddie Izzard:

We built up empires. We stole countries. That's how you build an empire. We stole countries with the cunning use of flags. You just stroll around and stick a flag in.

"I claim India for Britain!"

"You can't claim us we live here! Five hundred million of us!"

"Do you have a flag?"

"We don't need a bloody flag, it's our country!"

"No flag no country. You can't have one. That's the rules that...I've...just made up. And I'm backing it up with this gun."

And that was it.

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Like always, you have missed the entire point.

No, I'm positive I've not missed it. It's just that you can't or more likely won't try to understand what I'm trying to interpret in a radical and a way on the margins manner :)

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It's more a case of "Kilroy woz here” surely?

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Just use the UN if it's an international effort. Or place all the nations flags that went.

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