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[Hazzard]

SwampgasBalloonBoy, on 19 January 2013 - 01:35 AM, said:

I was merely point out the fact that many debunkers were quick to dismissed as "space junks". Shouldn't they should have try to see if it's authentic or not before throwing out "debris" "junks" and such?

Assuming that a UFO is the real deal (an alien craft) could lead down the path of cherry-picking (trying to find support for what one wants to be true).

A better way (I think) is to do this by falcification (any evidence that helps to establish the falsity of a claim can be important)  just to see if the claim holds water.

Always check the source, if there is the slightest doubt, thats a red flag right there.

[SwampgasBalloonBoy]

Hazzard, on 19 January 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

Assuming that a UFO is the real deal (an alien craft) could lead down the path of cherry-picking (trying to find support for what one wants to be true).

A better way (I think) is to do this by falcification (any evidence that helps to establish the falsity of a claim can be important)  just to see if the claim holds water.

Always check the source, if there is the slightest doubt, thats a red flag right there.

Maybe I wasn't being clear, but I haven't assumed those to be legit alien craft. I am trying to say is that the footage should be authenticated first and foremost. If we can conclude that it haven't been mess with, then we can debate on what is captured.

[spikeman25]

Imaginarynumber1, on 17 January 2013 - 06:50 AM, said:

Space junk doesn't orbit the planet?

. It doesn't take off at accelerated speeds like in this video or fly away from the planet like that .

[spikeman25]

Imaginarynumber1, on 17 January 2013 - 06:50 AM, said:

Space junk doesn't orbit the planet?

. It doesn't take off at accelerated speeds like in this video or fly away from the planet like that .

Hazzard, on 17 January 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

Someone please tell me why this is anything but the usual space debris?

Lol ... Give me a freaking break  . Space debris does not haul ass or fly away from earth like that . Aliens could land in your back hard and you would still deny their existence .

[Imaginarynumber1]

spikeman25, on 21 January 2013 - 02:26 AM, said:

. It doesn't take off at accelerated speeds like in this video or fly away from the planet like that . Lol ... Give me a freaking break  . Space debris does not haul ass or fly away from earth like that . Aliens could land in your back hard and you would still deny their existence .

It's all about the camera angle. Nothing is hauling ass anywhere and all i see is objects that are in orbit.

Edited by Imaginarynumber1, 21 January 2013 - 02:28 AM.

[SwampgasBalloonBoy]

Imaginarynumber1, on 21 January 2013 - 02:28 AM, said:

It's all about the camera angle. Nothing is hauling ass anywhere and all i see is objects that are in orbit.

You've got to admit the two identical objects moving in identical path does seemed unusual

[Imaginarynumber1]

SwampgasBalloonBoy, on 22 January 2013 - 12:51 AM, said:

You've got to admit the two identical objects moving in identical path does seemed unusual

Not really. It could be two separate objects, or it could just be one. We can only see the parts that reflect sunlight.

[SwampgasBalloonBoy]

Imaginarynumber1, on 22 January 2013 - 01:13 AM, said:

Not really. It could be two separate objects, or it could just be one. We can only see the parts that reflect sunlight.

Even Jim Oberg admited this are rare(post # 27). who know, maybe you've seen more than him.

[Imaginarynumber1]

SwampgasBalloonBoy, on 22 January 2013 - 01:21 AM, said:

Even Jim Oberg admited this are rare(post # 27). who know, maybe you've seen more than him.

I don't know who Jim Oberg is. (Sorry Jim Oberg! )  And I honestly have no interest in reading a thread about space junk.

I'm also not in the habit of immediately assuming any and all objects that are seen in space are alien or advanced craft when more prosaic explanations are more likely.

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

Imaginarynumber1, on 22 January 2013 - 01:38 AM, said:

I don't know who Jim Oberg is. (Sorry Jim Oberg! )  And I honestly have no interest in reading a thread about space junk.

I'm also not in the habit of immediately assuming any and all objects that are seen in space are alien or advanced craft when more prosaic explanations are more likely.

James Edward Oberg (born November 7, 1944) (often known as Jim Oberg) is an American space journalist and historian, regarded as an expert on the Russian space program.
http://en.wikipedia....iki/James_Oberg

he's around quite a bit in various threads.

[Imaginarynumber1]

Lord Vetinari, on 22 January 2013 - 08:26 AM, said:

James Edward Oberg (born November 7, 1944) (often known as Jim Oberg) is an American space journalist and historian, regarded as an expert on the Russian space program.
http://en.wikipedia....iki/James_Oberg

he's around quite a bit in various threads.

Well, when I have questions about the Russian Space Program I know whom to ask.

[Hazzard]

Imaginarynumber1, on 22 January 2013 - 08:38 AM, said:

Well, when I have questions about the Russian Space Program I know whom to ask.

And if I have a question about deliberate ignorance, I know whom to ask.

[Imaginarynumber1]

Hazzard, on 22 January 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

And if I have a question about deliberate ignorance, I know whom to ask.

Whenever anyone needs to know about being a dick, we know who to turn to....

Edited by Imaginarynumber1, 22 January 2013 - 09:45 AM.

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

Hazzard, on 22 January 2013 - 09:43 AM, said:

And if I have a question about deliberate ignorance, I know whom to ask.

was there any need for that?

[Hazzard]

Lord Vetinari, on 22 January 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

was there any need for that?

Maybe not,...   But I do think he knows who J.O is,... and that can answer more questions that just about the Russian space program.

Edited by Hazzard, 22 January 2013 - 11:41 AM.