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Occum's Razor = some Crop Circles are 'real'


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#211    Slave2Fate

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 05:38 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 09 February 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

I don't know what they're called in the UK or the US but there are "very small tornadoes" called willy-wilies here in Oz, they last seconds, do very little damage beyonf knock over a few potplants and make interesting patterns in the dust. Presumably if they occur over crops thye'll flatten them.

Around here we call them dust devils. :tu:

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:01 AM

View Postlaver, on 09 January 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

' We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are true and explain their appearance'   -- Isaac Newton

Evidence from crop designs shows that some are made by the use of some sort of microwave energy, or similar, with evidence of heating to the plants to get them to bend
Recent proposals to explain this suggest that humans are using some sort of microwave device to create crop designs
This cannot be true as there is no evidence of human technology or ability to create large designs in this way or that there is a way to power such a device in the locations and circumstances where these designs suddenly appear
So those crop design that show evidence of 'microwave' heating must be of non human origin
It is the simplest solution  - Occum's Razor in practice

That is an ASSUMPTION AKA THEORY perpetuated by the wannabe researchers. There is no evidence of microwave radiation in causing crop circles. They see bent or blown areas in the plant, and make a theory that it must be microwaves causing it. Haha. I've tested it myself, put some plant in the microwave, the STEM pops, not the NODE. And then they continue to catch fire.

"Bent and blown nodes" are due to the plants bending and stressing at the node from phototropism.

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 08:59 AM

what happens when you point a "microwave projector" at a piece of meat?
if you stick a piece of meat in a mixrowave oven it gets cook, but whst abouy in a beam?


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:01 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 10 February 2013 - 08:59 AM, said:

what happens when you point a "microwave projector" at a piece of meat?
if you stick a piece of meat in a mixrowave oven it gets cook, but whst abouy in a beam?
Do you wear hats indoors too ? Like those NQ yobbos ?


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:13 AM

it's rude to wear hats indoors.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:32 AM

Its acceptable in NQ... anywhere nth or Rocky or west of Gympie


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:41 AM

gods .. It has just sunk in.. I am moving to country qld.. country music and cowboy hats *sigh* the things you do for love I suppose..


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:57 AM

And *shudders* bush poetry.


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 10:35 AM

View Postlaver, on 09 February 2013 - 09:44 PM, said:

Not sure what you mean by a 'natural' crop circle.
And that one sentence confirms a lack of knowledge about the subject of crop circles

Who is the skeptic: the realist who won't accept belief, or the believer who won't accept reality?

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Posted 10 February 2013 - 11:48 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 10 February 2013 - 09:57 AM, said:

And *shudders* bush poetry.

oh gods.. you had to say it didnt you.. I had suppressed that thought.. now I am going to have nightmares about having to listen to bush poetry..


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 05:06 PM

View PostOppono Astos, on 10 February 2013 - 10:35 AM, said:

And that one sentence confirms a lack of knowledge about the subject of crop circles


Don't think so - you are saying that some crop designs are man made and some are not, 'natural' you call it . Would be interesting to know how you define 'natural'? does that include complex designs with mathematical messages maybe made by Nature?


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Posted 10 February 2013 - 09:23 PM

View Postlaver, on 10 February 2013 - 05:06 PM, said:

Don't think so - you are saying that some crop designs are man made and some are not, 'natural' you call it . Would be interesting to know how you define 'natural'? does that include complex designs with mathematical messages maybe made by Nature?
One of the most complex and amazing mathematical formulae is encoded in nature. The Fibonacci Sequence. It's amazing. It's omnipresent. It's been called by some "God's signature" or "God's thumbprint".


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:33 AM

View Postlaver, on 09 February 2013 - 01:16 PM, said:

The evidence clearly indicates that the formation of some crop designs is from above, which is also logical, hence they are not terrestrial. What the non terrestrial agency creating some of them is, is another matter.

Do you have supporting information? I have a strong feeling "indicates" is interchangeable with "Made up" here.

And how would that relate to Extraterrestrial at all? The hill seems to be getting steeper here from my perspective.


Just like the UFO Phenomena, Crop Circles will also have several explanations, but as a rule of thumb the level of detail is directly proportional to the likelihood of human activity.

It might in some cases just be some bent roos.

LINK - Stoned Wallabies Blamed For Australian Crop Circles

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:35 AM

View PostAlienDan, on 10 February 2013 - 08:01 AM, said:

Haha. I've tested it myself, put some plant in the microwave, the STEM pops, not the NODE. And then they continue to catch fire.


That's the ticket! Have a go yourself, well done mate. :tu:

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:40 AM

View PostDingoLingo, on 10 February 2013 - 11:48 AM, said:


oh gods.. you had to say it didnt you.. I had suppressed that thought.. now I am going to have nightmares about having to listen to bush poetry..

And hoping some Vogon's arrive maybe........

Also known for their poetry........ but is is only the third worst in the Universe I hear.

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