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Ponce De Leon Never Searched for the Fountain


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#16    pallidin

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Posted 26 May 2013 - 09:37 PM

So, in short, obviously there is no truth of the Fountain of Youth story, be it in Florida, or anywhere else.

It was a complete fabrication.

Wouldn't make any sense anyway.

Except that I became a dolphin and freetoroam disintegrated into a skeleton. Buy hey, that's another story.

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Edited by pallidin, 26 May 2013 - 09:40 PM.


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Posted 27 May 2013 - 03:22 PM

There are a lot of fascinating stories about the explorers that most people are not aware of.


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Posted 27 May 2013 - 03:56 PM

http://www.pbchistor...-true_story.htm

this book cuts to the chase without any of the hoopbla ---

http://www.history.c...untain-of-youth

this website lays it out -- and as far as he "discovering" the gulf stream, i have a bridge in brooklyn for sale - cheap -- the french and british knew about the "stream" because they had already mapped florida and it is almost impossible to sail the coast of florida and not know of the stream -- might i encourage people to read and look at the map of Waldseemuller as it already shows Florida as a peninsula

de Leon didn't "discover" anything

Waldseemuller Map, 1507 (Geography and Map Reading Room, Library of Congress)


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 04:22 PM

The history we get in school is strongly skewed. As I raise my child, I make him aware that things are not as we have been told and that the searth for truth is the utmost sign of intelligence.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 05:58 PM

Old Fumble-finger strikes again.  Sorry.
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Edited by Doug1o29, 28 May 2013 - 06:02 PM.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 06:25 PM

View Postregeneratia, on 28 May 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

The history we get in school is strongly skewed. As I raise my child, I make him aware that things are not as we have been told and that the searth for truth is the utmost sign of intelligence.
We depend for much of our "knowledge" of early history on just one or two accounts, or even some made up ones.

We know about Wallace because of a blind minstrel named "Harry" who collected the stories.  This was about 20 years after the fact and a few "errors (like Wallace' genealogy) had already crept into the story.

Only one account tells us of Christians being burned to light Nero's garden parties.  That was by Tacitus and is believed to be a later Christian redaction.

We have only Caesar's account of Gauls being sacrificed by burning in huge wicker baskets.  Nobody else records that.  Was this an invention of Caesar's, was he repeating a rumor or did he actually have evidence?  In contrast, there are three accounts of the Viking Blood Eagle sacrifice.

Empress Theodora was libeled by a historian who didn't like her.  Most-likely she was not a prostitute-turned-empress, but a very capable and aggressive leader who saved the Byzantine Empire from the mob.

Remember Catherine the Great and the story about the horse?  Not true.  But her lover was Prince Alexander Potempkin and he ...  You get my drift.

We are told about Commodore Perry's heroic defeat of the British at the Battle of Lake Erie, but there's a lot known to historians that didn't make it into the history books.  The American fleet was built at Misery Bay, the harbor for Erie, Pennsylvania.  There was a sandbar across the mouth of the bay that kept cannon-laden ships from sailing into the bay.  At the same time, American sharpshooters controlled the land.  The result was a standoff.  Then one dark and stormy night, the British commander decided to go see a lady in Buffalo.  While the British fleet was in Buffalo, the Americans launched their ships, floated them across the bar and loaded the cannons.  That girl deserves a commendation from the President, but she'll probably never get it.  And the rest, as they say, is "history."
Doug

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 03:01 AM

View PostDoug1o29, on 28 May 2013 - 05:58 PM, said:

Old Fumble-finger strikes again.  Sorry.
Doug

Who is fumble finger?

Oh I get it. no need to respond.

Edited by regeneratia, 31 May 2013 - 03:02 AM.

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Posted 31 May 2013 - 03:03 AM

View PostDoug1o29, on 28 May 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

We depend for much of our "knowledge" of early history on just one or two accounts, or even some made up ones.

We know about Wallace because of a blind minstrel named "Harry" who collected the stories.  This was about 20 years after the fact and a few "errors (like Wallace' genealogy) had already crept into the story.

Only one account tells us of Christians being burned to light Nero's garden parties.  That was by Tacitus and is believed to be a later Christian redaction.

We have only Caesar's account of Gauls being sacrificed by burning in huge wicker baskets.  Nobody else records that.  Was this an invention of Caesar's, was he repeating a rumor or did he actually have evidence?  In contrast, there are three accounts of the Viking Blood Eagle sacrifice.

Empress Theodora was libeled by a historian who didn't like her.  Most-likely she was not a prostitute-turned-empress, but a very capable and aggressive leader who saved the Byzantine Empire from the mob.

Remember Catherine the Great and the story about the horse?  Not true.  But her lover was Prince Alexander Potempkin and he ...  You get my drift.

We are told about Commodore Perry's heroic defeat of the British at the Battle of Lake Erie, but there's a lot known to historians that didn't make it into the history books.  The American fleet was built at Misery Bay, the harbor for Erie, Pennsylvania.  There was a sandbar across the mouth of the bay that kept cannon-laden ships from sailing into the bay.  At the same time, American sharpshooters controlled the land.  The result was a standoff.  Then one dark and stormy night, the British commander decided to go see a lady in Buffalo.  While the British fleet was in Buffalo, the Americans launched their ships, floated them across the bar and loaded the cannons.  That girl deserves a commendation from the President, but she'll probably never get it.  And the rest, as they say, is "history."
Doug


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 03:39 PM

Hmmm, having been to the actual Fountain at St. Augustine a few times, I would bet the community there would highly disagree.


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Posted 31 May 2013 - 10:21 PM

its just so nice that they made these stories....
its gives excitement to all who are young anytime of their lives....

in other sense it drives tourist also... lol making money thus gives you the capacity to try stem cell therapy toinks lol


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Posted 06 June 2013 - 01:24 AM

It would be nice if history that is taught to our children was truthful.  I am still p***ed that we celebrate "Columbus Day" since the guy did not "discover" America and there were plenty of other peoples here first.





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