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Will Robots Eventually Steal All Of Our Jobs?


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#1    Big Bad Voodoo

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 06:25 AM

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Will a robot take your job?  We have entered a period in human history when technology is advancing at an exponential rate.  In some ways, this has been a great blessing for humanity.  For example, I am absolutely blown away by all of the things that my little iPod can do.  But on the other hand, all of this technology is eliminating millions upon millions of high paying jobs.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 06:56 AM

will the next war be fought against robots/drones ?

every job that can be done without human hands is scheduled to be implemented. The unemployed are not counted anymore accurately..well because they have been unemployed so long. If you have a job you work less then 32 hours a week so your company can avoid certain draconian taxes. The average wage has dropped a huge percentage in the past 10 years. Middle income jobs were replaced with low income jobs only. If you do not fit into this category you are one of the lucky ones. Open your eyes enough to see most are not so fortunate.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:05 AM

View PostAsteroidX, on 06 February 2013 - 06:56 AM, said:


Yes we are on our way to terminator

And history of human kind has shown that slaves/servants at one point decide to took power.


http://en.wikipedia....and_disbandment

And Egypts Mamluks. :tu:

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:07 AM

Of course robots will steal all our jobs; that is what socialism is for, since when that happens we will need a different way to distribute goods and services other than through markets.  It appears to be a long way in the future though.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:11 AM

Great article. As robots replace workers, who is going to have the money to buy the products the robots produce?

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:11 AM

Those that do not understand history are doomed to repeat its mistakes. Thanks for the link. was a good read.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:12 AM

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Of course robots will steal all our jobs; that is what socialism is for, since when that happens we will need a different way to distribute goods and services other than through markets.  It appears to be a long way in the future though.

I dont consider within my childs lifetime to be a long ways off.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:22 AM

If it happens that soon your child will be lucky; he or she will not have to worry about making a living and can instead do things for pleasure or personal improvement.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:25 AM

I dont think thats how it works in America. But I understand what your saying. And I like that vision.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:42 AM

View Postthe L, on 06 February 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

http://www.activistp...eventually.html

Will a robot take your job?  We have entered a period in human history when technology is advancing at an exponential rate.  In some ways, this has been a great blessing for humanity.  For example, I am absolutely blown away by all of the things that my little iPod can do.  But on the other hand, all of this technology is eliminating millions upon millions of high paying jobs.

I personally think that we have gotten to the point where robotics can perform nearly any task in any field. The service sector was the last in this regard. We can make a machine that can make a beautiful home or car in a very short time. We can make a machine that can make a machine etc. We need to loose the monetary system all together because we have this capability and could do it without a debt based economy.

We have all the resources we need to give everyone anything they need, and to do so would supply every one without them having to work for it. Let the machines do the work while we engage in learning, growing, art, music, and enjoyment of life.







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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:43 AM

What I would expect would be a welfare floor -- a certain basic income for everyone, with special provisions for special needs (medical costs, education, etc.).  Then there would be payments made to people who achieve things, such as musicians, athletes, performers, scholars, authors, and so on -- the things that maybe a computer could do, maybe not, but in any case people would be preferred.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:50 AM

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What I would expect would be a welfare floor -- a certain basic income for everyone, with special provisions for special needs (medical costs, education, etc.).  Then there would be payments made to people who achieve things, such as musicians, athletes, performers, scholars, authors, and so on -- the things that maybe a computer could do, maybe not, but in any case people would be preferred.

Thats the basics. But if we evolve as a society its going to take more then simple paragraph to create equality.. But as it stands we are going the opposite the way with the robots getting the jobs and humanity getting non-compensation for the change in the socioeconomic reality of the world. It does not appear the ones installing the robots to replace human workers would agree with you. And the Govmnt is one of our biggest offenders currently. The only jobs they are preserving are there own.

One day we will make a compuetr that can make decisions based on whatever data we input for it to give a solution for and then we will not need the politicians anymore.

Edited by AsteroidX, 06 February 2013 - 07:50 AM.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 10:26 AM

Well that's not entirely correct.

IT is made for supporting, instead of replacing humans, in their daily chores.
Ppl are mainly acceptive of technology that supports the boring and repetitive tasks, so workers can in turn take on more diverse tasks and work "on a higher level" where more insight is required than assembly line kind of work. Some, mainly the older and less educated population, brings up the most resistance and fear for have to re-educate and such.
Expert systems still get quite a bit of resistence, which is still very valid in these times since computers do not possess intuition yet. For example managementsystems already exist to support manager desicions. Some can also make the decision for the manager, but this isn't used because a big part of a decision is experience. Which is not explicitly programmable. And even if every possible scenario could be put into code it would take too long for the computer to run over all the possibilities and give an answer. A person's history makes up for a big part of present decisions in his/her life and workspace. Therefore managers choose not to use this ability. In many cases the most efficient answer isn't the most wise/moral decision.

The machines taking the jobs of ppl stems from the industrial revolution and taylorism. Organisation have evolved from that stage.
Automatisation doesn't automatically lead to getting fired. Quite the contrary. With new systems, new functions arise. Most companies are also very aware of morale and know that talks of a new system scares ppl. That's why many companies ask for a design in which everyone will still be needed. Sometimes a bit of reschooling needs to happen yes. And that's the way we are headed. Less constrained tasks and more multifunctionalism. More reschooling to keep up and also don't "get stuck" in what you do.
Of course there are companies that deliberately ask for a new system so they can use it as an excuse to fire ppl, but you'll find that these are the minority. It's also very location related. (For example, in China you have a different attitude towards workers than the western world.)

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:44 PM

Maybe 100 years from now...

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:53 PM

Machines 'break' and malfunction.  Quite often.  (only saying)





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