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[Babe Ruth]

skyeagle409, on 09 December 2012 - 07:18 AM, said:

What does that have to do with 9/11? The Air Force was charged hundreds of dollars for toilet seats but that was no reason to fly airliners into buildings.

If you were to read the work done by Dick Eastman, Tom Flocco, V.K. Durham and Karl Schwarz you might discover why the invocation of 12(k) had to do with the events of the day.  More importantly, the next day, 12 September 2001

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 09 December 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

If you were to read the work done by Dick Eastman, Tom Flocco, V.K. Durham and Karl Schwarz you might discover why the invocation of 12(k) had to do with the events of the day.  More importantly, the next day, 12 September 2001

Are they serious?! Ignorance on their part is not helpful when confronted with undeniable facts and evidence.

[WWu777]

According to Wikipedia, the founder of the word "skeptic" meant:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeptic

"In classical philosophy, skepticism refers to the teachings and the traits of the 'Skeptikoi', a school of philosophers of whom it was said that they 'asserted nothing but only opined.' (Liddell and Scott) In this sense, philosophical skepticism, or Pyrrhonism, is the philosophical position that one should suspend judgment in investigations.[1]"

Here are some great quotes from the SCEPCOP site about "skeptics":

http://www.debunkingskeptics.com

"The original definition of skeptic was a person who questions ALL beliefs, facts, and points-of-view. A healthy perspective in my opinion. Today's common definition of skeptic is someone who questions any belief that strays outside of the status quo, yet leaving the status quo itself completely unquestioned. Kind of a juvenile and intellectually lazy practice in my opinion."

"What skeptics fail to understand is that skepticism involves being skeptical of your own position, it does not mean just being skeptical of that which you do not believe in, otherwise we are all skeptics and that renders their use of the term "skeptic" meaningless. A true skeptic casts skepticism on their own position as well. Since the Randi crowd do not employ skepticism in this respect then they are fairly termed pseudo skeptics and demean the term skepticism."

"I've never trusted skeptics, for the very reason that they are willing to accept the official version of things without a shred of proof but require unrealistic amounts of evidence to accept any other possibility."

Edited by WWu777, 10 December 2012 - 10:31 AM.

[Babe Ruth]

skyeagle409, on 09 December 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

Are they serious?! Ignorance on their part is not helpful when confronted with undeniable facts and evidence.

They are way more serious than you are, for sure.  And more curious too.  And more skeptical of government claims too.

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 10 December 2012 - 03:48 PM, said:

They are way more serious than you are, for sure.  And more curious too.  And more skeptical of government claims too.

The cards they've placed on the table have been blown off by the wind of reality.

[Babe Ruth]

Only in your mind Sky.

[skyeagle409]

Babe Ruth, on 10 December 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

Only in your mind Sky.

How amusing when facts and evidence have already done so!!