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#2056    Stundie

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 03:43 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 01 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

Let's take a look.
Yes lets shall we....
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Yes, that looks like molten steel to me.

NEXT.......lol

View Postskyeagle409, on 01 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

No photo-paint job there! :no:
Only in Skyeagles world can he mistake my reference to paint as in MSPAINT that you get with Windows to real paint!! :blink: hahahahahaah!!

View Postskyeagle409, on 01 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

But, I did see aluminum droplets falling from the same location where much of the aluminum airframe of United 175 is resting. :yes:
So let me get this straight....

The witnesses at GZ who had the expertise to recognise molten steel beams and columns were actually mistaken.....because...You can see some imaginary silvery droplets falling at free fall speed on a low resolution youtube video and are capable of identifying it as aluminium. :wacko: hahahahahahahahahahaha!!

Seriously, that is your argument?? hahahahahaha!!!

For a start these silvery droplets do not exist on any of the photos or videos. Shall we call them ghost droplets seeing as they don't exist! hahahhaha

View Postskyeagle409, on 01 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

Wrong again. Even experts dismissed that flow as molten steel.
None of them were there.

I take first hand accounts rather than second thanks! ;)

View Postskyeagle409, on 01 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

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BTW, that is an aluminum color chart.
So what? lol

View Postskyeagle409, on 01 August 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

I might add that 1200 C. is nowhere near the melting point of steel.
And I never said it was either.

More server garbage!!

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#2057    Stundie

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 03:44 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 02 August 2013 - 03:13 AM, said:

On the contrary, Q24 was proven wrong with facts and evidence.
It only happened inside your head.

Seek help!

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 04:05 AM

View PostStundie, on 02 August 2013 - 03:43 AM, said:

Yes lets shall we....
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Yes, that looks like molten steel to me.

More like the molten aluminum you see here.

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Molten Aluminum


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Molten Aluminum

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Molten Aluminum

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Molten Aluminum


And, to further add:

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And, you mentioned that the recorded temperature was 1200 C., which is below the melting point of steel, but  far above the melting point of aluminum.

Edited by skyeagle409, 02 August 2013 - 04:17 AM.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 04:07 AM

View PostStundie, on 01 August 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

No, it is not fine and dandy. I would expect that if you had any self respect, you would apologise for incorrectly attributing false arguments against me. But I do not expect it seeing as this post clearly shows us the desperate lengths you will go to ignore what is right in front of your face.

I and others have asked you to tell us in no uncertain terms, exactly what is in front of our faces...and you admittedly have no clue.  So what are you even arguing about?

I wonder why you are not quizzing raptorbites about the wind interference on the mic, because by not challenging that or even responding to it, it would seem that you think that these explosions are more than likely wind interference on the mic....hahahaha....over actual explosions?
Possibly explosives?

Why would I take your whims and challenge someone on YOUR misunderstandings? :huh:


Until we have a source for the explosions, then I can't rule out the possibility.
The kind that explode....lol

That's like Pelosi saying, We need to pass the bill so we can find out what's in it!

I have no idea about what kind of explosives were used seeing as there is no way of knowing. I can guess, but that is all it would be.



So your question would be like me asking you that if you believe it was wind interference on the mic, you would have some sort of idea about  what kind of wind interference, you know wind speed, direction etc etc.
To bring the towers down at a guess.

You're not what I would call a ...deep...thinker...but ...deep...down in your heart of hearts...you probably know that your arguments are nonsensical at best. :-*


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Posted 02 August 2013 - 04:39 AM

Sorry but you failed. None of them seem really seem to match Sky...lol

One or two come close, but the examples are poor! lol

What happened to the silvery droplets you imagine exist that proves it's aluminium?? lol

Edited by Stundie, 02 August 2013 - 04:40 AM.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 05:07 AM

View Postjoc, on 02 August 2013 - 04:07 AM, said:

I and others have asked you to tell us in no uncertain terms, exactly what is in front of our faces...and you admittedly have no clue.  So what are you even arguing about?
What is in front of your face, wind interference?? :blink:

View Postjoc, on 02 August 2013 - 04:07 AM, said:

Why would I take your whims and challenge someone on YOUR misunderstandings? :huh:
Maybe you could point out what I am misunderstanding about wind interference with the mic then? lol

View Postjoc, on 02 August 2013 - 04:07 AM, said:

That's like Pelosi saying, We need to pass the bill so we can find out what's in it!
Is it?? How so?? :blink:

View Postjoc, on 02 August 2013 - 04:07 AM, said:

You're not what I would call a ...deep...thinker...but ...deep...down in your heart of hearts...you probably know that your arguments are nonsensical at best. :-*
Well I'll try not to lose too much sleep over whether you think I am not a deep thinker and deep down in my heart of heart, I know that in my heart of heart, my argument that the sound is not wind interference with the mic make perfect sense at best. ;)

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 05:37 AM

View PostStundie, on 02 August 2013 - 05:07 AM, said:

What is in front of your face, wind interference?? :blink:
Maybe you could point out what I am misunderstanding about wind interference with the mic then? lol
Is it?? How so?? :blink:
Well I'll try not to lose too much sleep over whether you think I am not a deep thinker and deep down in my heart of heart, I know that in my heart of heart, my argument that the sound is not wind interference with the mic make perfect sense at best. ;)
Would you please just drop the wind interference crap?  It's getting old...the point was that many other things can cause 'explosive' type sounds.  Get over it.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 07:56 AM

View Postjoc, on 02 August 2013 - 05:37 AM, said:

Would you please just drop the wind interference crap?
Well you are the one who thinks I misunderstood it, now you thinks it's crap!

Maybe you should have told Raptorbites that it was a load of crap too?

View Postjoc, on 02 August 2013 - 05:37 AM, said:

It's getting old...the point was that many other things can cause 'explosive' type sounds.  
Don't you think I know that?? :blink:

The explosions on the videos could possibly be many other things because many things can cause explosives type sounds.....including actual explosions.

View Postjoc, on 02 August 2013 - 05:37 AM, said:

Get over it.
I'm not the one getting my knickers in a twist over the possibility that the sounds were possibly explosions rather than wind interference on the mic......lol

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 09:01 AM

What the fekk does any this has to do with the simple fact, that 9-11 was not anything new or surprising by any means at all.

It was simply are a very successful jihadist attack, but only one of thousands of jihadist attacks that have been going on for a long time, are going on now, and will be going on for a long time.

Only a complete idiot would be unaware of that. But I guess that is the pre-condition for being a good 9-11 troother.

The troothers are an embarressment to this board.

Edited by Zaphod222, 02 August 2013 - 09:01 AM.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 12:23 PM

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It was a well planned and executed military operation, a false flag operation similar to Operation Northwoods.

Training exercise Vigilant Guardian started the events first thing that morning, and everything went pretty well flawlessly, except at Shanksville where Wally Miller let the cat out of the bag before the feds made it on site.


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Posted 02 August 2013 - 12:57 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 02 August 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

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It was a well planned and executed military operation, a false flag operation similar to Operation Northwoods.

Training exercise Vigilant Guardian started the events first thing that morning, and everything went pretty well flawlessly, except at Shanksville where Wally Miller let the cat out of the bag before the feds made it on site.

Yeah, right. "military operation" to add...... another islamist attack in the middle of a whole torrent of them.

So how many of the thousands of other jihadist attacks (from the successful to the planned to the totally amateurish) were also "military operations, run by ..... anybody but the jihadists themselves.

Again, the 9-11 troothers are an insult to human intelligence and an embarrassement for this site.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 06:52 PM

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You should get closer to how Dubya put it at the UN back in November 2001: LET US NEVER TOLERATE OUTRAGEOUS CONSPIRACY THEORIES CONCERNING THE ATTACKS OF 9/11; MALICIOUS LIES THAT ATTEMPT TO SHIFT THE BLAME AWAY FROM THE TERRORISTS, THEMSELVES, AWAY FROM THE GUILTY.

Even with his slightly dyslexic style he was a bit more eloquent about it than you are. :innocent:


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Posted 02 August 2013 - 07:17 PM

View PostStundie, on 02 August 2013 - 05:07 AM, said:

The explosions on the videos could possibly be many other things because many things can cause explosives type sounds.....including actual explosions.

Explosions, which are the result of explosives, leave behind lots of evidence, and that was not the case at ground zero. There were no shrapnel, detonation cords, and nor hardware associated with explosive demolition and demolition experts at ground zero have stated for the record they heard no demolition explosions as the WTC buildings collapsed nor found explosive hardware with in the rubble, which can be confirmed on video.

There were no secondary explosions observed as the aircraft struck the WTC towers, which would have rendered planted explosives ineffective anyway. There was no way to prepare the WTC buildings for demolition, which would have taken many months of preparation, and would have attracted a lot of attention as well.

It took many months to prepare a bridge in Corpus Christi, TX for demolition in which case there was no way the WTC towers could have been prepared for demolition in a few days as some conspiracy theorist have suggested..

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 07:32 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 02 August 2013 - 06:52 PM, said:

LET US NEVER TOLERATE OUTRAGEOUS CONSPIRACY THEORIES CONCERNING THE ATTACKS OF 9/11; MALICIOUS LIES THAT ATTEMPT TO SHIFT THE BLAME AWAY FROM THE TERRORISTS, THEMSELVES, AWAY FROM THE GUILTY.


But, Osama bin Laden has already claimed responsibility for the 911 attacks.

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Bin Laden Admits 9/11 Responsibility, Warns of More Attacks

A tape aired by Al-Jazeera television Friday showed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden admitting for the first time that he orchestrated the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks and saying the United States could face more.

http://www.pbs.org/n...n_10-29-04.html


And, al-Qaeda has become angry at people like you for trying to pin the 911 attacks upon the Bush administration.

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 07:54 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 02 August 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

It was a well planned and executed military operation, a false flag operation similar to Operation Northwoods.

I remember that false flag operation very well. That was when Washington contracted with the Nazis in 1944 to shoot down a B-747 over Berlin in 1987 in order to cause the aircraft to crash into the San Francisco/Oakland Bay Bridge and use that incident as an excuse to raise toll fares, however, the B-747 ran out of gas before reaching the Bay Bridge and crashed into an overpass leading to the Bay Bridge.

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However, the landing gears and engines continued due to momentum and  managed to damage portions of the Bay Bridge, which is why a replacement bridge is being built.

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Thanks for reminding me of that false flag operation involving the San Francisco Oakland Bay Bridge.

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Training exercise Vigilant Guardian started the events first thing that morning,...

That was our annual Pentagon training exercise where the Boy Scouts taught us how to tie knots.

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...and everything went pretty well flawlessly, except at Shanksville where Wally Miller let the cat out of the bag before the feds made it on site.

Yes indeed, Wally Miller spilled the beans.



Edited by skyeagle409, 02 August 2013 - 08:01 PM.

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