nohands Posted October 16, 2012 #26 Share Posted October 16, 2012 i think animal nowaday thinks more complicated...hnmn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chooky88 Posted October 16, 2012 #27 Share Posted October 16, 2012 I love that story of Mr Smith. Just because animals don't think like us. They are still capable of intelligence and compassion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrknownothing Posted October 16, 2012 #28 Share Posted October 16, 2012 Still not clear on trolling. Like trolling the forrest, i.e. looking around? Aren't we all doing that. The owls keep squirrels away? Uh oh, destroying their habitat and pushing them out. How are the squirrels stealing the walnuts? Aren't they every animals walnuts? Or aren't they the trees walnuts and anything else taking them is stealing them? Hey, let's just kill all humans, that'll make people like you happy. You brush your teeth today? You know how many things you killed by doing that? You drive a car? That kills tons of bugs every day by running through their natural habitat. You wear deodorant? There are bacteria that would love to live off your body’s secretions. Guess my house is in the deer’s way, I should tear it down so I'm not intruding. They do seam to be doing pretty well here though; they eat the apples off the trees I planted. Damn me for interfering and playing god! My cats kill a ton of little creatures. Should I kill them to save those creature? I did bring in those cats and those creatures lived here first, just say the word and I'll eliminate the problem. How about all those people walking around with pig heart valves? They should all be dead! Why hurt a poor little pig to help an evil human?!?! All those nets in Africa keeping the mosquitoes from being able to eat! Damn all those people, they deserve malaria! You've changed my mind. I hate humanity and all our so-called advances! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xYlvax Posted October 17, 2012 #29 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Owls are awesome, but those talons would tear someone up.. not to mention the beak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bignose Goon Posted October 17, 2012 #30 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Owls about that then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Amerika Posted October 17, 2012 #31 Share Posted October 17, 2012 But if you live somewhere that people don't displace/kill off multitudes of animals by sprawling development, overfishing, overhunting, hunting for kicks, commercially overbreeding until 100's of thousands get sick and must be destroyed, burning their forests, altering entire ecosystems, introducing foreign predator species or simply pollute their land then good for you. Doesn't all have to be intentional but the end result is the same. Without us playing bad god/good god they'd be better off. You sure do seem to harbor an awful lot of hatred towards your fellow human beings. You may want to do some self reflection. I wont go out of my way to harm an animal but im not going to lose an ounce of sleep over their death either. If i go swimming in the ocean and get eaten by a shark are you going to protest the sharks? or are you going to say i should have moved away from where they are? Animals can move or die, not my problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emin Posted October 17, 2012 #32 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Yeah i almost got attacked by an owl once while up on my roof star gazing. Sure freaked me out, lol. Idk but it makes sense in a way that it is typical for things to attack other things that run so maybe its just doing what it do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcin Posted October 19, 2012 #33 Share Posted October 19, 2012 Still not clear on trolling. Like trolling the forrest, i.e. looking around? Aren't we all doing that. The owls keep squirrels away? Uh oh, destroying their habitat and pushing them out. How are the squirrels stealing the walnuts? Aren't they every animals walnuts? Or aren't they the trees walnuts and anything else taking them is stealing them? Hey, let's just kill all humans, that'll make people like you happy. You brush your teeth today? You know how many things you killed by doing that? You drive a car? That kills tons of bugs every day by running through their natural habitat. You wear deodorant? There are bacteria that would love to live off your body's secretions. Guess my house is in the deer's way, I should tear it down so I'm not intruding. They do seam to be doing pretty well here though; they eat the apples off the trees I planted. Damn me for interfering and playing god! My cats kill a ton of little creatures. Should I kill them to save those creature? I did bring in those cats and those creatures lived here first, just say the word and I'll eliminate the problem. How about all those people walking around with pig heart valves? They should all be dead! Why hurt a poor little pig to help an evil human?!?! All those nets in Africa keeping the mosquitoes from being able to eat! Damn all those people, they deserve malaria! You've changed my mind. I hate humanity and all our so-called advances! To explain: TROLLING - The word art of deliberately, cleverly and/or secretlt p***ing people off, usually via the internet means, using clever wording and/or dialogue And while you don't mean it, you are a little naive because you have gone in 3 comments from black to white, purposely ignoring the fact that there is a host of shades of grey in between it all. While majority of us don't particularly MEAN it, our sheer ignorance and lack of deeper interest kills more living things, than all our deliberate and concentrated efforts. Also, speaking of bugs and bacteria - this is the synonymous - you've gone too far... in many places (for example since we're on their topic) owls are now borderline extinct, reduced to tiny pockets of population due to our direct and indirect actions against them and their habitat. Now your bacteria on the other hand, is far from threatened faring in unaccountable millions just in your closest vicinity alone... Have to say that if you REALLY want to start a valid argument defending your point, stay away from using cold sarcasm and overexagerrated examples - makes people just roll eyes and not take a word of it on board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magiclass Posted October 19, 2012 #34 Share Posted October 19, 2012 (edited) I would be really pi**ed if someone came running through my prime hunting territory scaring all the prey! Edited October 19, 2012 by Magiclass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idano Posted October 19, 2012 #35 Share Posted October 19, 2012 "Barred owls are so used to humans that they've pretty much lost all fear of them," said Rob Bierregaard Wow me too go owls! "But I can't stretch that to explain why an owl would pop a jogger on the back of the head. Me either, bad day? The only thing I can come up with is these are playful young." Oh that's why I don't understand...I'm too old to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varelse Posted October 20, 2012 #36 Share Posted October 20, 2012 You sure do seem to harbor an awful lot of hatred towards your fellow human beings. You may want to do some self reflection. I wont go out of my way to harm an animal but im not going to lose an ounce of sleep over their death either. If i go swimming in the ocean and get eaten by a shark are you going to protest the sharks? or are you going to say i should have moved away from where they are? Animals can move or die, not my problem. No not all of them, just rare few who think like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninhursag Posted October 20, 2012 #37 Share Posted October 20, 2012 I've always liked owls .. Then I watched The Fourth Kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Amerika Posted October 22, 2012 #38 Share Posted October 22, 2012 No not all of them, just rare few who think like you. I believe i am in the vast majority of humans that will not harm animals for pleasure but will not put an animal ahead of another human or our need for survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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