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[Professor T]

The Points ranking system some people are talking about is something I made up for the Show us your Ego Thread. http://www.unexplain...pic=240650&st=0

Personally I think the Like button is a great addition.. It's like the who want's to be a millionare "ask the audience" function.. You can skim though a post where someone has posed a tricky question and quickly see, from qty of likes, the most likely answer to the question..
Unfortunately, Ego doesn't see it that way.. Ego sometimes see's the accumulation of likes as a contest. Or as collecting UM brownie points ..

Sorry, but imo a "like" points ranking system would be a bad idea that would turn a lot of peoples posting's into an Ego Contest for likes and collecting Brownie Points.. Point in fact that I used the existence of this List to get peoples Ego's exposed.  

Edited by Professor T, 10 February 2013 - 09:11 AM.

[Frank Merton]

I will admit whenever I get a "like," I check it out to see what it was I said (goes to show) but I am not interested in comparing with other people.  The validity of some message has little if anything to do with how popular it is.

[DieChecker]

Professor T, on 10 February 2013 - 09:00 AM, said:

The Points ranking system some people are talking about is something I made up for the Show us your Ego Thread. http://www.unexplain...pic=240650&st=0

Personally I think the Like button is a great addition.. It's like the who want's to be a millionare "ask the audience" function.. You can skim though a post where someone has posed a tricky question and quickly see, from qty of likes, the most likely answer to the question..
Unfortunately, Ego doesn't see it that way.. Ego sometimes see's the accumulation of likes as a contest. Or as collecting UM brownie points ..

Sorry, but imo a "like" points ranking system would be a bad idea that would turn a lot of peoples posting's into an Ego Contest for likes and collecting Brownie Points.. Point in fact that I used the existence of this List to get peoples Ego's exposed.  

The problem with your table is that some of us have been posting for 5+ years previous to the Like system. So the higher percentages are strongly going to be tilted toward newer Membership. If someone has 10 posts and 10 likes, that is 100%. Yet says little of the poster, they may know what they are posting about or that they may just have a good sense of humor.

[JesseCuster]

DieChecker, on 10 February 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

The problem with your table is that some of us have been posting for 5+ years previous to the Like system. So the higher percentages are strongly going to be tilted toward newer Membership. If someone has 10 posts and 10 likes, that is 100%. Yet says little of the poster, they may know what they are posting about or that they may just have a good sense of humor.

Users are also more likely to get "likes" in popular threads and popular forums and those who might be considered good contributors to the less viewed forums will have lower scores even though they aren't actually any less worthy posters.

And a single good or funny post that a lot of people "like" can push his/her number of likes way up.

On web forums, after I've been there a while, I start to form my own opinions about the worthiness of other regular posters, I don't need to see a score attached to them to form a judgment.  At another forum I'm active on, the option is available to turn off reputation function, so I don't need to see all the bling attached to member's posts as a reminder of just how bleedin' awesome they are.

[Professor T]

DieChecker, on 10 February 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

The problem with your table is that some of us have been posting for 5+ years previous to the Like system. So the higher percentages are strongly going to be tilted toward newer Membership. If someone has 10 posts and 10 likes, that is 100%. Yet says little of the poster, they may know what they are posting about or that they may just have a good sense of humor.

, Yes, I know. The topic of the "Most liked" Members list has been debated to death in the Show Us your Ego Thread.
There's more reasons why it shouldn't exist than reasons for it to exist..

Right now, peoples intention behind their posts is to comment on somerthing they feel is Important, funny, or just something that needs to be expressed..

If the Most liked Points Ranking system like the one in the Ego thread came about, Many people's Intention behind their posts would change.. And the change would not be positive imo.. It would create a culture/atmosphere of completiton between members. It would remove some of the importance from posting, and replace that with an egotistic fish for likes..

Mind you, it would be a positive change in the Fun & Games threads.... But counter productive elsewhere..

[ExpandMyMind]

Eldorado, on 09 February 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

I like the 'like' button cos it saves me typing a reply along the lines of 'I agree!' or 'lol'.



As for your ranking idea... lol

(only joking)

I agree.

Edit - Damn, Schiziod beat me to it!

Edited by ExpandMyMind, 10 February 2013 - 09:07 PM.

[Abramelin]

[Asadora]

Professor T, on 10 February 2013 - 09:00 AM, said:

The Points ranking system some people are talking about is something I made up for the Show us your Ego Thread. http://www.unexplain...pic=240650&st=0

Personally I think the Like button is a great addition.. It's like the who want's to be a millionare "ask the audience" function.. You can skim though a post where someone has posed a tricky question and quickly see, from qty of likes, the most likely answer to the question..
Unfortunately, Ego doesn't see it that way.. Ego sometimes see's the accumulation of likes as a contest. Or as collecting UM brownie points ..

Sorry, but imo a "like" points ranking system would be a bad idea that would turn a lot of peoples posting's into an Ego Contest for likes and collecting Brownie Points.. Point in fact that I used the existence of this List to get peoples Ego's exposed.  

My Ego wanted to say this: I liked this post, because it has my name in it!  (jk!)

Seriously, I will say that I enjoy being able to click the like button after reading a well-written, possibly sane and witty post. I enjoy that I'm able to encourage people to continue their good efforts, yet at the same time I do realise that my 'like' can be used as a force for utter good or for utter demise. One thing is certain though, I get a lot more enjoyment out of 'liking' on this forum than I do on FB:/ There are so many times one can 'like' someone's post regarding their latest haircut, or nail polish or where they're eating.

[ExpandMyMind]

The problem with the like button is that I hardly ever post any more. Or maybe that's a blessing?

[Armchair Educated]

i only suggested this for a bit of fun, if highly voted its not as if id walk round with my title on a badge.

[BonecrusherPotlessjinxpotl]

I think it's better to give than receive.
I only like posts with intelligence,humour and somebody agreeing with my viewpoint.
I'm also quite partial to liking posts where a poster has asked about somebody's well being and sympathised.
It's even better when the poster incorporates all this into one post and I'm certain there's a few masters at that.
There sure is a lot of thinking going on here and god knows how many hidden gems I've missed.
Tbh I sure do get a lot of likes when it comes to the occasional bit of humour I exhibit.
My most popular post was the one of Ty and Kayla where they managed to sleep on each other.
Tbh a forum is more about respect to each other than liking a particular post.
If you put a " dislike" function on this forum you'll be cruising for a bruising.
It will be even corrupt than the " reputation" system on my previous forum.
Where you get blinged up with stupid green blobs.
Spread the love indeed!

Edited by Medium Brown, 11 February 2013 - 12:59 PM.

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

Medium Brown, on 11 February 2013 - 12:58 PM, said:

It will be even corrupt than the " reputation" system on my previous forum.
Where you get blinged up with stupid green blobs.
Spread the love indeed!

that latter bit got me thinking ; I've been on other forums* that have had a similar system, but some of them have had a "DISLIKE" function as well, and to be fair that's rarely been abused, and it didn't say "xxxx disliked this post", it just subtracted one point from the total, so anyone would have to be very observant, and not a little obssessive, to keep track of everyone's total to know whether one point had been subtracted. That seems a reasonably fair way of having a Dislike function. Anyway, this also included the ability to post a short message along with your vote, to say why you liked it, or a supportive message or something like that. That could be a useful facility sometimes, since it might save on having to post a reply just to say "good point, bruv" or "lol".

* or fora

[Hasina]

I like a post when I agree with it, when it makes me laugh, when the person makes a good point even if I don't agree with it, or if a point's been made that I wanted to make but no longer need to.

[Asadora]

Asadora, on 11 February 2013 - 03:30 AM, said:

My Ego wanted to say this: I liked this post, because it has my name in it!  (jk!)

Seriously, I will say that I enjoy being able to click the like button after reading a well-written, possibly sane and witty post. I enjoy that I'm able to encourage people to continue their good efforts, yet at the same time I do realise that my 'like' can be used as a force for utter good or for utter demise. One thing is certain though, I get a lot more enjoyment out of 'liking' on this forum than I do on FB:/ There are so many times one can 'like' someone's post regarding their latest haircut, or nail polish or where they're eating.

You found it, Professor T! Thank you!

[BonecrusherPotlessjinxpotl]

Lord Vetinari, on 11 February 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

that latter bit got me thinking ; I've been on other forums* that have had a similar system, but some of them have had a "DISLIKE" function as well, and to be fair that's rarely been abused, and it didn't say "xxxx disliked this post", it just subtracted one point from the total, so anyone would have to be very observant, and not a little obssessive, to keep track of everyone's total to know whether one point had been subtracted. That seems a reasonably fair way of having a Dislike function. Anyway, this also included the ability to post a short message along with your vote, to say why you liked it, or a supportive message or something like that. That could be a useful facility sometimes, since it might save on having to post a reply just to say "good point, bruv" or "lol".

* or fora

Imagine having a dislike and reputation option combined.
It will turn it into a level playing field especially if it's a hate forum.
Though the experience might make them wiser because they won't be continuously begging for reps.
I've seem threads based around reputation on my previous forum which turn respectable posters to crybabies.
Though through it all there was a lone crusader who decided it wasn't acceptable.
And yet this guys green blob situation got so bad it ended up  like climbing ivy.
He was top of the shop because he had a different agenda to the rest of us.
However if the guy was here he would be laying into everyone in the " fun and games" sub- forum.
Tbh any " reputation" comments I left behind would be more constructive like " c'est magnifique and super- duper".
I prefer this system because begging for people to like you is desperate and more obvious.
Btw the reputation table there was even worst than the one the prof is displaying.
They didn't do percentages which showed disparity between all the other posters.

Edited by Medium Brown, 11 February 2013 - 07:06 PM.