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#16    Jessica Christ

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 07:13 PM

His interpretation could be his way to cope and process this horrible experience which could lead to PTSD in many instances. Who knows if he has any other rituals (prayer is one), counseling, or therapy to help him cope better but that is a start.

Edited by Unseelie, 20 April 2012 - 07:14 PM.


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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:27 PM

Um, no; God did not save him, and I believe that it is unhealthy of him to possess this train of thought. What saved him was adrenaline, and the primal instinct of self-preservation. Nothing more, nothing less. :tu:


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Posted 21 April 2012 - 12:49 PM

View PostAlienated Being, on 21 April 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

Um, no; God did not save him, and I believe that it is unhealthy of him to possess this train of thought. What saved him was adrenaline, and the primal instinct of self-preservation. Nothing more, nothing less. :tu:
Hi Alienated Being -- this is what is reported:

Preston Stevens says he felt some sort of force push him before the bullet went through his Rajon Rondo jersey ...

What are your grounds for over-riding that report, by writing: "What saved him was adrenaline, and the primal instinct of self-preservation."? How was the boy to know about the trajectory of the bullet? Or, even to "know/perceive" that there was going to be a bullet coming his way?

I'm curious as to your logic, apart from dismissing "intervention",
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Posted 21 April 2012 - 03:07 PM

I don't know if it was God, we have nothing to prove it and it can seem  a bit arrogant for  me  to think  YES it was God... and not care about the stray bullets that kill other kids and babies  over time  in gang lands and areas like them...I am sure it has happened.. So why would I assume that God would  not save the rest and just one boy?

So I have to think of another possible conclusion  .......Either the boy just got lucky?  OR he has his  own guardian angel  / past dead relative looking out for him.. Who knows?


All I can say is....If this was my kid..I wouldn't care who pushed him..as long as he is ok I would be thankful enough for that ....

Glad the kid was ok...don't matter what he thinks saved him, he is just a child.. Main thing is he is safe

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 04:00 PM

something saved him , but as there is no such thing as god i dont know what it was.


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Posted 21 April 2012 - 04:50 PM

Funny how anything pertaining to someone thanking god turns into a religious debate....

Numerous athletes thank god for being where they are, playing how they play, just getting the oppurtunity.

Same for musicians, people saved from disasters, etc....


I think we should take the " god " out of it, and discuss if it was fate, karma, hallucination, etc...

For above scenarios, and others, does it really matter whom we thank, or claim saved us, or put us where we are?.......As long as we are not pushing it onto someone else?

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 05:02 PM

Seriously, what about all of the innocents who have been killed by bullets? Was God too busy to save them, or did God willingly let them die? Is it fair to assume that God is responsible for all of the wonderful things, but none of the tragedies? Is there any sense to be found in this?


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Posted 21 April 2012 - 05:41 PM

The headline of the HP story claims that the boy said that the bullet missed him because God intervened. That's an odd way for a nine year-old to speak, don't you think?

There is no such direct quote in the story. "'It was like God' pushed him." Like? As in "as if?" as in "a figurative expression immediately follows?"

I checked the orignal WHDH story upon which the Huffer relied.  It gives the full quote as

"It was like God pushed me back, he said.

http://www1.whdh.com...ter-close-call/

Like, as in "as if" it was. There is no indication that the boy said anything else about God.

Preston Stevens, 9, Says Stray Bullet Missed Him...

In fact, the boy never said the bullet missed him. It didn't. He has two holes in his Celtics jersey. He reports on camera that he felt the impact on his belly. He was hit, he wasn't injured.

Preston Stevens, 9, Says Stray Bullet Missed Him Because (whatever) Intervened

The boy never said that changing his position had any effect on the outcome of the incident. He involuntarily and irresistably retreated when he felt the impact. The bullet was most likely already in his bedroom wall by the time he actually moved, and he never said otherwise.

Full marks to Preston for finding an effective and direct way of expressing in words what the private and unshared expereince of  the irresistable impulse felt like. Full marks also for plainly labeling his expression as figurative.

Does the Huffington Post headline writer not speak English or something?

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:27 PM

I think the moral of the story is...don't live in the ghetto.


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Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:52 PM

View PostAlienated Being, on 21 April 2012 - 12:27 PM, said:

Um, no; God did not save him, and I believe that it is unhealthy of him to possess this train of thought. What saved him was adrenaline, and the primal instinct of self-preservation. Nothing more, nothing less. :tu:
Your logic makes no sense. The kid did not know that someone would be firing a bullet through his house and just 'happen' to move out of the way out of instict etc. Your answer is toO simplistic. I would need more proof about the conclusion you came to that it was some sort of 'self-preservation'.If he had even a small inkling of the bullet that might hit him, why would he go inside to get his glasses etc. just so he could dodge it.


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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:29 PM

View Posteight bits, on 21 April 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

"It was like God pushed me back," he said.

http://www1.whdh.com...ter-close-call/

Like, as in "as if" it was. There is no indication that the boy said anything else about God.

I agree with you on this.


To add I do not see why anyone would need to make an issue over it.... He is just a kid... And so what if he said  it was like God saved him?  Who cares? as long as he dodged a bullet... Literally !!

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Posted 21 April 2012 - 07:48 PM

View Postminera, on 21 April 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

Your logic makes no sense. The kid did not know that someone would be firing a bullet through his house and just 'happen' to move out of the way out of instict etc. Your answer is toO simplistic. I would need more proof about the conclusion you came to that it was some sort of 'self-preservation'.If he had even a small inkling of the bullet that might hit him, why would he go inside to get his glasses etc. just so he could dodge it.

You did read the part about "a series of pops"? You know, multiple shots fired. Once the first shot is heard, along with the mother's yelling, ones instinct would be to duck for cover.....that's where the adrenaline kicks in......

"The third-grader's mother, Sharon Jackson, says she heard a series of  pops at about 3 p.m. and yelled at her children to get down."

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 01:00 AM

I think its more luck than anything else.


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Posted 22 April 2012 - 02:41 AM

View PostEuphorbia, on 21 April 2012 - 07:48 PM, said:

You did read the part about "a series of pops"? You know, multiple shots fired. Once the first shot is heard, along with the mother's yelling, ones instinct would be to duck for cover.....that's where the adrenaline kicks in......

"The third-grader's mother, Sharon Jackson, says she heard a series of  pops at about 3 p.m. and yelled at her children to get down."
Yes I did read the article. Seems it is conflicting from the news announcers' version from the link video on the same page

http://www.huffingto...?ref=weird-news

unless someone has their story wrong then I still stand by my comment. I am glad the kid is ok, but I am sure there is more to this story than what we all heard and seen in print.


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Posted 22 April 2012 - 03:01 AM

If there is a god, and if the god is omnipotent/omniscient, and if this god is in a position to be able to save the lives of humans with his godly actions, then this raises more questions than answers.

Why did god intervene with this boy, but let so many others all over the world die? Is this god unable to save all the children? is this god unwilling to save the children? What are the decisions that went into place in order to justify the saving of one boy and not all the others?

Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.




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