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[Cadetak]

The existence of dinosaurs in the earths history contradicts the events in the bible. In the Genisis stories God created earth with modern day animals.

I'm looking for the "oficial" christian explanation on this. I didn't post this in the Skeptic forum because I'm trying to start that debate...just an answer if there is one and if there is not maybe a debate between christians(or bible historians).

[SwampGator]

You won't get a debate with christians or bible historians.
They will avoid this thread like the plague.

[Cadetak]

So am I to assume there isn't a real explanation? I can't believe a pope or someone hasn't answered this. Dinosaurs are basically 99.9% proven to have existed. Some one some where had to have had an explanation.

I mean it takes hours for star wars fanboys to fix story problems within the movies.

[Avinash_Tyagi]

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So am I to assume there isn't a real explanation? I can't believe a pope or someone hasn't answered this. Dinosaurs are basically 99.9% proven to have existed. Some one some where had to have had an explanation.

I mean it takes hours for star wars fanboys to fix story problems within the movies.

I've heard some say that christians believe the fossil evidence to be faked (I know it sounds crazy to me too    )

[Paranoid Android]

Could you please explain what it is about the dinosaurs that contradict the Bible?  Is it just the Genesis 1 account of the earth being created in seven days, or is there more to it than that?  When you respond, I'll give a more in-depth response   

Cheers, PA

[Cadetak]

Well in the bible God created Man first with all other modern day animals like bears, dogs, etc. He didn't make dinosaurs, kill them off, and then make man...he made man first. Get what I mean?

[Avinash_Tyagi]

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Well in the bible God created Man first with all other modern day animals like bears, dogs, etc. He didn't make dinosaurs, kill them off, and then make man...he made man first. Get what I mean?

Well you gotta have food for the dinosaurs

[Paranoid Android]

Umm, just for reference could you point me to a single Bible-verse where humans are created before animals?

Edited by Paranoid Android, 11 October 2006 - 06:29 AM.

[__Kratos__]

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Umm, just for reference could you point me to a single Bible-verse where humans are created before animals?

Asking more questions to answer a question isn't giving an answer.

The bible doesn't mention dinosaurs anywhere, nor does it explain why they were there. You can't tell me that they didn't know about it because well... Dinosaurs were everywhere on earth with many many many different kinds.

Something tells me that the people creating a religion and writing a book to follow didn't know about them.  

You can't tell me either that off-beat words that translate into different meanings = dinosaurs either. There are many other reptiles that are not dinosaurs.

Even more so Noah was suppose to collect two of every kind of animal... Which by today's standards is impossible no matter which way you cut it.

Here's a laid out view of Christians on the dinosaurs... Remember what you've learned in school when reading this... Link

[Paranoid Android]

Wait a sec, I think I just answered slightly different to the point you intended

To give you my fuller response then, From a purely textual point of view, leaving aside the literal days idea, the Bible only says (concerning animals/humans) that animals were created first and only at the end were humans created.  If you take a day of creation as literally a 24-hour period, then perhaps you'd have a point, but there is plenty of textual basis to suggest that the "day" refers to a long period of time - thousands, or even millions of years.

I guess I should point out here that I don't know what the "official church doctrine" is on this matter.  Quite frankly, I've never cared enough to ask.  I had my own answers from the study I've done and it's made perfect sense to me.  I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of churches followed a similar rationale than the one I suggested above.

Though my personal study has led me to the conclusion that Genesis is not in fact an account of how the earth was created.  THe linguistic structure is very reminiscent of poetry.  I take the text not as an account of how things came to be, but an an account of the one behind it all (God).

Regardless of whether it's literally seven days, or whether it's just a large period of time, or whether it's a poetic rendition, when I read it, I get the same core message - God was the cause.  

Hope that helps

Regards, PA

[jagerthorn]

That's a very good question, but just to point out - not everyone of us Christians believe that evolution and the dinosaurs are abruptly a misconception, or something not of our peaceful world ...

To tell you my view point, the seven days of creation talked about in Genesis, was WAY more than seven days (obviously, there is no other possible scientific way). In fact, it was an abbreviation, for many MORE days. A extended thread of evolution, when he put the smallest cell on the planet to evolve into the mightiest of dinosaurs, and into animals, and thus into man. A long stretch of creation, if I may say so. Genesis is filled with all sorts of hidden secrets .

[Bella-Angelique]

There is no spontaneous creation in Genesis. It is all written as evolving in stages. Man as the most evolved animal is listed as last.

Believe it or not, somehow ancient man was able to figure out that he was smarter than a fish or a rabbit. As hard as this is to believe it is absolutely true.

[ohio tsunami]

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Here's a laid out view of Christians on the dinosaurs... Remember what you've learned in school when reading this... Link

I'm not disrespecting or bashing Christians, but how they explain the Dinosaurs is absurd.  They claim that evolution scientists have no proof of the age of bones they dug up.  Where is thier proof that science is wrong?  Not the Bible, but solid proof.  I've never heard the theory that Noah didn't have room for the dinosaurs, that's why they died.  Come on, they gotta do better than that.  The Earth is only 6000 years old?  Again, how did they come up with that number.  It says that passages in the Bible are the key to finding the age of the Earth and Heavens, which ones?  How can anyone look at Genesis and read deep enough to figure out the story of the Dinosaurs when it says nothing about them?

[hetrodoxly]

Many christians don't take the bible literally, and can happily live with evolution and dinosaur's I'm going to tell my very old dinosaur joke "what do you call a short-sighted dinosaur? A doyouthinkhesaurus"

Edited by hetrodoxly, 11 October 2006 - 03:51 PM.

[odas]

I have to take sides with Paranoid A.

The Bible does not claim anywhere that God created the Man first.

In fact, if we read Genesis, we will see that god createt the Human not once but twice.
Adam is not the first Human created, but the first with a soul.

Further more, translating into todays science to create something in one, two or six days is quiet posible if we go by light years e.g. Quran about Gabriel: for him one day is for us 50000 years, or 500000.

Speed of the light. Unknown back then, or?

So does the Bible denies the exsitence of dinosaurs? No.
Does the bible confirms the existence of dinosaurs? Indirectly by mentioning animals in the see and land and skys.
At the end, dinosaurs were animals too, or?