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Posted 09 May 2013 - 12:22 PM

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Marlon Heimerl: Since the 6-inch tall Atacama Humanoid (nicknamed ‘Ata') first lit up major media outlets, the public eye has looked to its strange, distended face for answers.
As interest persists today—not too shabby for something that's typically marginalized by the mainstream—people have become increasingly absorbed by the release of Dr. Steven Greer's documentary, Sirius, which rolled out the study and DNA results of the mysterious creature.

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 07:17 PM

Highly interesting. Humanoid or human that have had 8 years and that dont have same number of ribs as we hss and that no disorder can explain how is that possible.
Great stuff.

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Posted 02 June 2013 - 03:30 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 09 May 2013 - 06:11 AM, said:

Analysis of the Atacama humanoid alien

Posted by: Antonio Huneeus April 11, 2013

We posted earlier this week a story outlining the origin of the alleged tiny ET creature to be showcased in Dr. Steven Greer’s Sirius documentary to be released later this month. We chronicled how this creature was none other than a case known in Chile as the La Noria ET from 2003; the name comes from a ghost town of the nitrate era in this part of Chile’s northern Atacama Desert region. We left the story sort of in a cliff hanger as to what happened to it once it was acquired by a Spanish businessman from Barcelona.

We’ve discovered since a number of things, including the original 7 minute TV program about the case aired by Chile’s Megavisión Channel V shortly after the creature’s discovery was published in the local press. You can now see this program on YouTube in Spanish, and it shows exactly the location where the creature was discovered, as well as interviews with Oscar Muñoz, the man who found it, Alejandro Dávalos, the first one to photograph the being, and well known Chilean ufologist Rodrigo Fuenzalida, director of the AION UFO research group.

Navia-Osorio provides the text of two scientific documents in his report. The first one is the “radiological” report signed by doctors E. Feijoo, C. López and J. M. Colomer. It basically consists on a detailed description of the creature itself but it obviously avoids giving any conclusion about its origin. It is clear from this report, however, that the creature is not a crude hoax as was cavalierly suggested by a Complutense scientist who suggested (while remaining anonymous) that the whole thing was a hoax made with bird bones.

The second transcribed document is a forensic medical report written by Dr. Francisco Etxeberria Gabilondo, a professor of Legal and Forensic Medicine in the Basque Country University, and specialist in Forensic Anthropology with the Complutense University, who wrote the study at the bequest of the IIEE (probably for a fee, although that is not mentioned). Dr. Etxeberria wrote that, “it’s a mummified body with all typical the characteristics of a fetus. The body has a length of 14 cm and displays all the structures and anatomical links normal for the head, trunk and extremities.” He continues with a detailed description of each part of the body and finally gives his overall view:


Taken as a whole, the proportions of the anatomical structures (skeleton and softer parts), the level of development of each one of its bones and its macroscopic configuration, allow us to interpret it without any shadow of doubt as a completely normal mummified fetus…Both based on the total length of the body as well as the length of the bones, it can be estimated that it’s a fetus in an approximate gestation period close to 15 weeks.”

The Greer Connection

The final part of Ramón Navia-Osorio’s long article describes briefly how Dr. Steven Greer became involved in this case. The link was made by Dr. Bravo, a female doctor from Dallas, who brought Dr. Greer to the IIEE office in Barcelona. The Spanish researcher mentions here some of the claims contained in the promotional material released by the producers of the Sirius documentary, including DNA sequencing which allegedly found the Atacama being had an “unknown classification.” Until we see the film, we can’t judge how valid is the scientific evidence presented.

That, in essence, is the saga of the little mummy from its early days in the Chilean ghost town to Spain’s scientific labs. In his final conclusions, Navia-Osorio writes that, “we are not among those who claim that it’s an ET, although morphologically speaking it really looks similar to some of them. We can’t deny that, but before asserting it we must consider other possibilities. In summary, we don’t have conclusive proof that can determine the nature of the specimen.”


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Bummer.

This of course isn’t exciting enough for a world premier, so don’t expect to hear anything about it in the movie. The whole thing reminds me a bit of the bogus “nephilim skulls” that are out there. I blogged about that over on my PaleoBabble site many moons ago, complete with a picture from a medical supply catalog of these “amazing” skulls – the medical supply company has several models so their medical students can learn about human cranial deformities (which is good, so they don’t have to rob the Smithsonian of one of their hidden specimens from the late 1800s). Sad to say, I’ve seen these models at Christian conferences to promote various nuggets of nephilim nonsense (I normally hate alliteration, but I’ll let that one pass – truth be told, I was tempted to add “nattering nabobs” to that from the Aladdin movie).

It also reminds me of a book I’ve read . . . that had unscrupulous people using doctored human fetuses to create alien remains. . . . Oh yeah, that was my novel, The Facade. Funny.

Of course there will be those who think that because the specimen has a skeleton that it must be alien. To all you Einsteins out there on that point – a human fetus has a skeleton, too. All 206 bones of the human being are present by the end of the fifth week. (Please note that the 5th week would fall before the 15th week noted in the quotation above).

This whole world premier thing illustrates the poor thinking of many who want desperately to have aliens explain everything in world history and our origins (i.e., who want that as a religion). Just Google it. Or better yet, look at the name of Greer’s project: “Sirius Disclosure. The title plays off Robert Temple’s iconic but demonstrably bogus “Sirius Mystery.” Think about it. Let’s say this six-inch specimen isn’t human — how the Zeta do we know it’s from Sirius? Because that’s a narrative Greer likes – it “connects” (in the Land of Non Sequitur) to cool things like ancient Egypt (Temple had the image of Akhenaten on the cover of his Sirius Mystery book – we all know he was an ET, despite what the recent DNA research on the mummies in his lineage says).2

So where does this leave us? Well, if you’re like me who’d like to see serious people do serious thinking about a subject as serious as whether we’re alone in the universe, you’re embarrassed by this latest stunt (by the way, that sound rhyming on “Sirius” is called assonance – oh, crud, I ruined the aural subliminal). You all know that, if there are such things, I’m on the side of the public having a right to know (i.e., at least confirm the idea if it’s real – I do allow for legitimate national security issues). Stuff like this generates cash and sets tongues to wagging, but doesn’t really help credibility.


(And read the discussion in response to Heiser's article)

http://michaelsheise...fetus-er-alien/



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Posted 25 June 2013 - 04:03 PM

I do hope this comes out into the open. Although it will leave us with more questions than answered ones. Worth it!

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:58 AM

View Posttinysbox13, on 25 June 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

I do hope this comes out into the open. Although it will leave us with more questions than answered ones. Worth it!


What re you talking about? It has been "out in the open" for like ten years. Greer just decided to promote it as a mystery recently, the DNA has been analysed, and all tests say it is positively human. Be it suffering from a disease, or was it a foetus is what remains to be understood.

It's just a scam to make money of the gullible.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 06:31 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 02 June 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:


Sorry Abe but i still have doubts. Did you seen that thing?
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In debate you posted people actually saying that is cover up.
That scientists already found out that is not hss.
I want more independent studies too.
One say 8 years old other fetus. Look mouth, skull...dont have same numbers of ribbs...humans have 12 ribs at side. This thing 9.

Edited by the L, 06 August 2013 - 06:42 PM.

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 07:43 PM

One more thing. Didnt Maya talked about dwarves that ruled the Earth before them?

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 07:48 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 26 June 2013 - 06:58 AM, said:

What re you talking about? It has been "out in the open" for like ten years. Greer just decided to promote it as a mystery recently
I did not know it was in the open, figured if it was "open" it'd be in (or on the outscurts) of the mainstream media or what-have-you's. Only found out about this and the disclosure project in May. Which is what I was going for as when I said "coming out into the open." - My bad :P

View Postpsyche101, on 26 June 2013 - 06:58 AM, said:

the DNA has been analysed, and all tests say it is positively human. Be it suffering from a disease, or was it a foetus is what remains to be understood.

It says that the genetic make-up is closer to human than chimps are. It did discuss the diseases of which they didn't find any that were similar with our own diseases that would explain; the size, the build-up (bones/ribs, etc); like dwarfism and whatnots.

View Postpsyche101, on 26 June 2013 - 06:58 AM, said:

It's just a scam to make money of the gullible.



As for the scam part, I would agree with you there! As of now-a-days is concerned, EVERYTHING is made for profits! Just how capitalism works :tu:

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Greer and Putin need to get together and show off to each other :clap:
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Edited by tinysbox13, 06 August 2013 - 07:52 PM.

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 07:52 PM

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Edited by tinysbox13, 06 August 2013 - 07:52 PM.

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