A-Mike Posted October 4, 2010 #1 Share Posted October 4, 2010 i want to hear from you guys but first watch the whole video... its one of the best ive seen regarding to Martial Arts Philosohpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevastiel Posted October 5, 2010 #2 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I received an entire set of his books as a gift some time ago. Striking Thoughts is one I actually open every day or so for random wisdom/insight. Few people seem to be aware of the fact that he was quite the philosopher. Too much focus on the pretty lights of the moon to look into it perhaps. What do I think about it? It is what it is. I don't like to think about such things too much. Feels like it cheapens them. Or perhaps I understand it well enough that there's no need for conscious dissection. Overthinking things often results only in complicating them for sake of complication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Dangerously Posted October 6, 2010 #3 Share Posted October 6, 2010 He had some decent philosophy. He also cheated on his wife and died from doing drugs he already knew he was allergic too. So...grain of salt and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted October 6, 2010 #4 Share Posted October 6, 2010 He over trained, something that's known to be bad for training. His philosophy is mostly stuff he picked up from previous martial artists. Over all, though, still think he was cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkDwarf Posted October 6, 2010 #5 Share Posted October 6, 2010 He had some decent philosophy. He also cheated on his wife and died from doing drugs he already knew he was allergic too. So...grain of salt and all that. Um, What's your source that he died from "doing drugs", or that he knew he was allergic? The official cause of death was an allergic reaction to rather mundane over-the-counter painkillers (Equagesic), which was the only substance found in his system, and I was not aware of any evidence to suggest anything other than that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted October 6, 2010 #6 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Um, What's your source that he died from "doing drugs", or that he knew he was allergic? The official cause of death was an allergic reaction to rather mundane over-the-counter painkillers (Equagesic), which was the only substance found in his system, and I was not aware of any evidence to suggest anything other than that happened. He also had cannabis in his system a the time, though it doesn't seem to have had anything with his death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Dangerously Posted October 6, 2010 #7 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Um, What's your source that he died from "doing drugs", or that he knew he was allergic? The official cause of death was an allergic reaction to rather mundane over-the-counter painkillers (Equagesic), which was the only substance found in his system, and I was not aware of any evidence to suggest anything other than that happened. http://www.chasingthefrog.com/reelfaces/brucelee.php Had Bruce Lee been previously taken to the hospital for the same condition that led to his death? Yes. On May 10, 1973, a little over two months before his death, Bruce passed out at Golden Harvest Studios in Hong Kong while dubbing his voice for Enter the Dragon. The air conditioners at the studio had been turned off, because the noise they made interfered with the dubbing process. The extreme heat was a likely factor in Bruce's collapse. He was taken to the hospital where he was treated by his family doctor, Dr. "Don" Langford and neurosurgeon Dr. Peter Wu. Both physicians believe that the cause of Bruce Lee's death approximately two months later was the result of his use of cannabis (marijuana leaves), particularly through his preferred method of consuming the substance, not by smoking it, but instead by chewing it or eating hash brownies and cookies. -Fighting Words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liteness Posted October 7, 2010 #8 Share Posted October 7, 2010 (edited) i want to hear from you guys but first watch the whole video... its one of the best ive seen regarding to Martial Arts Philosohpy Mr. Lee was an excellent martial artist. But there is a very very big fact that is often left out of the picture. Lee was a great friend, practice buddy and room mate of Ed Parker. The only differences I see between Parker and Lee is that Lee was a movie star and put all his focus on movies, which is why he is famous. Parker on the other hand, put all his focus and all his money into creating American Kenpo Karate. I trained Ed Parkers style of Kenpo for 6 years and loved everything about it. It was a true philosophy of self defense and a philosophy of the body and movements, combined with mental and emotional control. There's no doubt that Ed Parker and Bruce Lee contributed to one another, their styles are actually similar in many aspects. If I was asked to be honest about who I appreciate more between Lee and Parker, I would say Parker. Because he devoted his life into spreading self defense and creating one of the best known Kenpo (law of the fist) Karate (With empty hands, or without weapons) styles there is on this planet. And not Bruce Lee because I'm not that big on giving credit to movie stars. Though I will say that if Bruce Lee put just as much time into his style and promoting it, I'm sure it would be just as big and perhaps bigger than Ed Parkers. Perhaps... Kenpo/Kempo has a great history behind it, I won't explain though, if someone is interested read up on both Kenpo history and Ed Parker. http://www.stanford.edu/group/kenpo/kenpo-faq.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Parker I don't know about most of the people in the world, but when I see Bruce Lee's name I think of Ed Parker as being the true Martial Artist master. If not for Ed Parker, Bruce Lee would have a very hard time in the USA also. As for Bruce Lee's philosophy, it's good, really good actually. But I enjoy Plato's work over most all philosophy Edited October 7, 2010 by liteness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimJim22 Posted October 8, 2010 #9 Share Posted October 8, 2010 A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer. Bruce Lee All fixed set patterns are incapable of adaptability or pliability. The truth is outside of all fixed patterns. Bruce Lee Lost what I had written and lack the motivtion to rewrite it but summary is that Lee's approach complements the ethic of Parker and without Lee martial arts would lack the mass appeal it has today. He was a wise man but more importantly perhaps he was a legend and an icon. The relative mystery surrounding his life and death adds to the appeal. http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/b/bruce_lee.html I simply do not buy the allergic reaction theory for his death and am more inclined to consider it assasination. For similar reasoons as David Carradine perhaps? http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1829121/david_carradine_murdered_like_bruce.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohands Posted October 8, 2010 #10 Share Posted October 8, 2010 i dont know really but he's great to think of that kind of thinking...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystal sage Posted October 10, 2010 #11 Share Posted October 10, 2010 I was not aware that Bruce Lee was a philosopher.. but I have always greatly admired him.. Just yesterday someone posted me a site showing Bruce Lee playing table tennis with nunchucks !!!! My link As for his early demise , I heard he was assasinated for breaking the oath of sharing Martial arts to the rest of the world. My link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimJim22 Posted October 10, 2010 #12 Share Posted October 10, 2010 I was not aware that Bruce Lee was a philosopher.. but I have always greatly admired him.. Just yesterday someone posted me a site showing Bruce Lee playing table tennis with nunchucks !!!! My link As for his early demise , I heard he was assasinated for breaking the oath of sharing Martial arts to the rest of the world. My link Brilliant video That must've taken an unbelievable amount of skill. On his death, here is a good link. http://unmyst3.blogspot.com/2009/03/mystery-of-bruce-lees-death.html Death of a Legend There was no visible external injury; however according to autopsy reports, his brain had swollen considerably, from 1,400 to 1,575 grams (a 13% increase). Lee was 32 years old. The only substance found during the autopsy was Equagesic. On 15 October 2005, Chow stated in an interview that Lee died from a hypersensitivity to the muscle relaxant in Equagesic, which he described as a common ingredient in painkillers. When the doctors announced Lee's death officially, it was ruled a "death by misadventure." Controversy occurred when Dr. Don Langford, who was Lee's personal physician in Hong Kong and had treated Lee during his first collapse believed that "Equagesic was not at all involved in Bruce's first collapse." However Professor R.D. Teare, a forensic scientist recommended by Scotland Yard who had overseen over 1000 autopsies, was the top expert assigned to the Lee case. His conclusion was that the death was caused by an acute cerebral edema due to a reaction to compounds present in the prescription pain killing drug Equagesic. The preliminary opinion of the neurosurgeon who saved Lee's life during his first seizure, Peter Wu, was that the cause of death should have been attributed to either a reaction to cannabis or Equagesic. However, Dr. Wu later backed off from this position: "Professor Teare was a forensic scientist recommended by Scotland Yard; he was brought in as an expert on cannabis and we can't contradict his testimony. The dosage of cannabis is neither precise nor predictable, but I've never known of anyone dying simply from taking it. Controversy still surrounds the death of Bruce Lee, theories include murder from the triad society, a family curse that grew with the untimely death of his son Brandon Lee, shot while performing an action scene on a movie set, a delayed reaction to a Dim Mak strike he received several weeks prior to his collapse. As well other authors have said the death of Bruce Lee may have been due to a "Vibrating Palm technique" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrating_Palm. Though he was only 33 his philosphy dictated tat his life was in danger on many occasions. I suppose it is just ironic that taking an aspirin for a mild headache may have killed him. Alternatively, there are other theories behind what caused his brain to swell. http://fr33sp33k.h33t.com/index.php?topic=16224.0 He was epileptic though apparently and I suppose this could be linked to his extraordinary skills and philossophy aswell as his untimely death. http://vampjack.freewebspace.com/LeeDeath7interviewtomb.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSot Posted October 10, 2010 #13 Share Posted October 10, 2010 I was not aware that Bruce Lee was a philosopher.. but I have always greatly admired him.. Just yesterday someone posted me a site showing Bruce Lee playing table tennis with nunchucks !!!! My link As for his early demise , I heard he was assasinated for breaking the oath of sharing Martial arts to the rest of the world. My link The ping pong table was done with a Bruce Lee look a like for a cell phone commercial. As for him being assasinated.... "Martial Arts" has been known in every part of the world for centuries. As for wushu, he was not the first practitioner to teach it in the west. For that matter, he didn't hold onto much of Wing Chun when he got over here, as he found it to be useless against boxers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nohands Posted October 23, 2010 #14 Share Posted October 23, 2010 wushu?? i think it is very slow and not for bruce lee... its very sad that i thought he was killed by an accident in the shooting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarPlexus Posted October 23, 2010 #15 Share Posted October 23, 2010 (edited) double post Edited October 23, 2010 by SolarPlexus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarPlexus Posted October 23, 2010 #16 Share Posted October 23, 2010 (edited) i think bruce lee's philosophy is great and applicable NOT ONLY for fighting ( uh i mean defense hehe) but also for living and eliminating suffering from one's life his death is a combination of over-exercise, ocassional recreational drug use, and allergies. His philosophy is mostly stuff he picked up from previous martial artists. yeah mostly. he picked that stuff up from previous martial artists BUT added his own 'touch' or 'flavour' to it .... its very sad that i thought he was killed by an accident in the shooting thats brandon lee, his son he died while filming 'The Crow' Edited October 23, 2010 by SolarPlexus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevastiel Posted November 6, 2010 #17 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SHaYap Posted November 6, 2010 #19 Share Posted November 6, 2010 there is Bruce Lee the movie star then there is Bruce Lee the master of martial arts for most it was the movie star/icon that died for the rest of us the master lives on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarPlexus Posted November 7, 2010 #20 Share Posted November 7, 2010 great videos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoIverine Posted November 7, 2010 #21 Share Posted November 7, 2010 I'm actually extreemely allergic to marajuana, I can't even be in the same room as anyone smoking it. It's actually because it's a member of the ragweed family of plants which many people are allergic to as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevastiel Posted November 7, 2010 #22 Share Posted November 7, 2010 I'm actually extreemely allergic to marajuana, I can't even be in the same room as anyone smoking it. It's actually because it's a member of the ragweed family of plants which many people are allergic to as well. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcop Posted November 12, 2010 #23 Share Posted November 12, 2010 kung fu is just a myth it is more of mind control,something like yoga but with faster movements,me and my team went to a karate tournament to evaluate and we unanimously agreed that a boxer would be able to knockout a kung fu fighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimJim22 Posted November 12, 2010 #24 Share Posted November 12, 2010 kung fu is just a myth it is more of mind control,something like yoga but with faster movements,me and my team went to a karate tournament to evaluate and we unanimously agreed that a boxer would be able to knockout a kung fu fighter I know what you're saying and at the lower level you are probably right. I mean your average boxer could knock out your average kung fu practitioner. However, as one trains as a master of kung fu or qi gong his potential advancement becomes much higher so a kung fu master would wipe the floor with any world champion. Then there is the philosophy involved. I think boxers speak for themselves in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Clog Posted November 12, 2010 #25 Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) I know what you're saying and at the lower level you are probably right. I mean your average boxer could knock out your average kung fu practitioner. However, as one trains as a master of kung fu or qi gong his potential advancement becomes much higher so a kung fu master would wipe the floor with any world champion. Then there is the philosophy involved. I think boxers speak for themselves in that regard. This simply a lie. There is no such thing as dim mak or qi gong, and I am willing to place myself as as a test subject for a trial. I am a fairly decent fighter with a ju-jitsu background, and I have a good background in Muay Thai, not a pro but with a good record. Would anyone like to challenge me so that they can demonstrate Dim Mak or Qi Gong on me?. Here is a link to an example: .cfm"]My link and this is a link explaining exactly what happened : My link well anyone?. Edited November 12, 2010 by Reverend Clog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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