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[Abramelin]

synchronomy, on 06 October 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

That's flawed logic...

Do you have any real evidence that it is not an extraterrestrial vehicle?

The logic is in error, I agree, but at least the Septic Skeptics come up with explanations based on what we know .

The Gullible Goofies say it MUST be an ET spacecraft or that it very possibly is.

I know of bugs and bags, I know of hoaxes, I know of digital camera anomalies, but how many of you have met an ET or an ET spacecraft?

[Sky Scanner]

Not sure the new name tags are necessary - might be better to just debate the cases, labelling detracts from any constructive exchange.

[Euphorbia]

TheMacGuffin, on 06 October 2012 - 07:31 PM, said:

They have a lot more information posted on there than any of you Septics have come up with.  Even your buddy Fritz or whatever his name is claims to be a regular on there, which I am sure is as great a joy and blessing to them as it is to us.

More name calling?........ My "buddy Fritz"?  Now you resort to attacking screen names? Play nice.......

[TheMacGuffin]

Euphorbia, on 06 October 2012 - 07:49 PM, said:

More name calling?........ My "buddy Fritz"?  Now you resort to attacking screen names? Play nice.......

Yesterday I noted that he used the royal We a lot to refer to himself, and it brought to mind that famous quip from Mark Twain that only three individuals should be allowed to call themselves "we": monarchs, newspaper editors and people with tapeworms.

[Euphorbia]

synchronomy, on 06 October 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

That's flawed logic...

Do you have any real evidence that it is not an extraterrestrial vehicle?

That's the point......there's no evidence as to exactly what it is! Zip, Zero, Nada! I've never made any claims as to what it is, just as to what it could be. Yes, it could be an extraterrestrial vehicle, or a bug, or a bag, or a........

Without definitive proof, I will believe that there could be many possibilities.........you can believe whatever makes you happy. Happy now?

[White Unicorn]

synchronomy, on 06 October 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:

That's flawed logic...

Do you have any real evidence that it is not an extraterrestrial vehicle?

May I add- the photo IS a UFO  unidentified flying object or  even unidentified "floating" object

Be open minded guys!
If it's a hoax prove it until then let's analyze to determine what it is and is not- anti ET sceptics included!

Don't leave out any possibility no matter how improbable because this is a very good photo capturing what a lot of people really see in the skies.  It was photographed unnoticed which creates little testimonial edvidence to go on, this is sad.  

Sceptics please do like they did in the original military investigations, tuck it in a file that is "unexplained"  not disproven but unidentified put it with the others of the same kind and try to find links for more clues and study it as to what it really was...ET, bug,  balloon atmospheric, drone etc.

Keep in mind many believers started as sceptics too trying to make sense of their experience however mild or life changing concerning this subject can be. They weren't all hoaxers it just happened to them and until something happens to you personally you have no idea how feels to the believer.

I take heart with synchronomy in his statement.  Please be tolerant and explore the possibilities with each other.
Know it or not we are on the same side trying to discover the truth of each case presented!

[Euphorbia]

TheMacGuffin, on 06 October 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:

Yesterday I noted that he used the royal We a lot to refer to himself, and it brought to mind that famous quip from Mark Twain that only three individuals should be allowed to call themselves "we": monarchs, newspaper editors and people with tapeworms.

This thread needs to get back on track!

No more name calling and bickering please. This thread is about a UFO picture and it's validity, not attacking other posters!

[Euphorbia]

White Unicorn, on 06 October 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

May I add- the photo IS a UFO  unidentified flying object or  even unidentified "floating" object

You are more than likely correct, but that hasn't been 100% proven with everyone.

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Be open minded guys!
If it's a hoax prove it until then let's analyze to determine what it is and is not- anti ET sceptics included!

Well, I've never said that it was a hoax, only that it is a possibility. I believe that there is extraterrestrial life, I'm just not convinced they've visited Earth. I need more proof.

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Don't leave out any possibility no matter how improbable because this is a very good photo capturing what a lot of people really see in the skies.  It was photographed unnoticed which creates little testimonial edvidence to go on, this is sad.  

Photographed unnoticed? Are we sure about that? Testimonial evidence is not always reliable for various reasons.

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Sceptics please do like they did in the original military investigations, tuck it in a file that is "unexplained"  not disproven but unidentified put it with the others of the same kind and try to find links for more clues and study it as to what it really was...ET, bug,  balloon atmospheric, drone etc.

Agreed!

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Keep in mind many believers started as sceptics too trying to make sense of their experience however mild or life changing concerning this subject can be. They weren't all hoaxers it just happened to them and until something happens to you personally you have no idea how feels to the believer.

And then there are people like me that will always question what I see even in person until I am satisfied with an accurate answer.

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I take heart with synchronomy in his statement.  Please be tolerant and explore the possibilities with each other.
Know it or not we are on the same side trying to discover the truth of each case presented!

Yes we are! I just don't like anyone assuming that this is of extraterrestrial origin. Might be, but who knows?

[1963]

Euphorbia, on 06 October 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

You are more than likely correct, but that hasn't been 100% proven with everyone.



Well, I've never said that it was a hoax, only that it is a possibility. I believe that there is extraterrestrial life, I'm just not convinced they've visited Earth. I need more proof.



Photographed unnoticed? Are we sure about that? Testimonial evidence is not always reliable for various reasons.



Agreed!



And then there are people like me that will always question what I see even in person until I am satisfied with an accurate answer.



Yes we are! I just don't like anyone assuming that this is of extraterrestrial origin. Might be, but who knows?

Who has assumed that Euphorbia ?...Can't say that i've seen that opinion stated anywhere on this thread!
....Only the refusal to rule out that particular option without 'empirical proof' that it wasn't extraterrestrial!...Which I believe is perfectly reasonable,...don't you?

Cheers.

[rachelkleypassparrow]

I have taken photos of UFOs that were invisable to the eye, but the camera can see.
Cameras are sensitive to
changes.

[Euphorbia]

1963, on 06 October 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

Who has assumed that Euphorbia ?...Can't say that i've seen that opinion stated anywhere on this thread!
....Only the refusal to rule out that particular option without 'empirical proof' that it wasn't extraterrestrial!...Which I believe is perfectly reasonable,...don't you?

Cheers.

My bad for assuming! Thanks for being civil!

Well, I'm off for the day for some good beer and a barbequed steak.......

[Karyotype]

Interesting picture and I enjoy listening to coast to coast am and George when I have the chance.  However I only find the show interesting to listen to and only believe about 0.1% of the things that are featured on that show.  I very seldom post, but this...I just do not know how this thread has run to 22 pages.  Its an interesting photo of a "UFO".  We do not know what it is so it is unidentified but to just decide that it is from an advanced civilization, what part of unidentified is not understood? .  But the direction this thread is taking is just...........not a good thing IMO, which is worth what you paid for it.

[Realm]

I believe in Alien space craft, however I am skeptical of many pictures.
This picture is an exception.
The sun angle appears correct on the object as the sun rays piercing the haze can actually be seen in the photo.
The object is relatively clear compared to many pictures.
And the camera is obviously pointed downward as focused on the goats as she claimed.

[synchronomy]

If this picture is a fake, it's a damn good one.
If it's real, that is, there was really an object in the sky, it's a good picture of a UFO.
Problem is, there's no way to prove the UFO is extraterrestrial.
I think we've beaten this one to death unless someone comes up with a new approach.

[ShadowBoy86x]

This picture is weird, i didnt notice that till some of you pointed it out, everything in the picture is right, but when you look at her and the camera, it seems that we should be seeing something else. Might just be a trick of the eye, i donno, maybe the whole thing is alien lol