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[kampz]

Alphamale06, on 17 November 2012 - 06:04 AM, said:

I have been a devoted Christian for many years, however, when you add the Ancient Alien Theory to the Biblical story... It all starts to make complete sense... These ancient people had no reference points to accurately describe what they were witnessing. Anyone who lived in those times would have referred these aliens to being gods and angels...

I believe the Ancient Alien theory has things to point out like religion and evolution. These ancient people were exactly the same as everyone else and we never changed. Either these guys were drawing cartoons on walls or they represented a meaning. Most were probably what they saw. The Gods in Egypt looked human excluding people wearing masks in there pictures. Osiris looks very humanish in pictures representing him. In my opinion there wasn't any Gods walking around with an animal head. If there was they​ wore a Mask or it was like a Native American Priest. Mostly every God created was related in our image. I can't find one yet that doesn't. Every angel were/is human looking. Greek and the four major religions in India Gods look human too. The Greek Gods look just like us. The entire Greek mythology and all religions in general maybe you can crack something like an alien in there. But it relates to cryptic animals in my opinion. Like Unicorns, Trolls and Minotaurs. Evolution cracks Aliens. Not our past. Just my 2 cents. I should add they did create UFO's and maybe they made a grey alien to show someone before. I don't know. But life should go on... and "alien" isn't that bad of an idea. Especially if were more advanced... But people already believe in them being way to far advanced. hm

Edited by kampz, 14 December 2012 - 02:01 AM.

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zoser, on 13 December 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:

OK so here goes.  I'm far from convinced that you got the point of my last post but I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you misunderstood rather than pretended it wasn't there.

Look at the thickness of the penetration cut:



My estimation is that the wall thickness of the tool that did that is in the order of 2mm at the most.  Two problems now exist:

1) The wall thickness is too narrow for stone age copper technology.

2) A 2 mm copper pipe would be shredded if it attacked granite to bore a hole like that.

The burden is on you as the proponent of the bow and tube theory to say exactly how that cut was achieved in the manner that you propose.

If you cannot do it satisfactorily then that is ok.  I will not think lesser of you.  

Are you clear about the question?  If not I will explain it more fully; I really don't mind.

But be honest that's all I ask.

My Opinion

The above photo places orthodox theories on extremely shaky ground.  The uploader of these still photos is yet another advocate of the advanced technology theory.  Not necessarily the AA hypothesis because I have not investigated him.  He may or may not be an AA advocate.  Yet he has clearly investigated the evidence in a lot of detail and reached a conclusion which is against the orthodox explanations.

The detailed analysis seems to have been done well by the advanced technology advocates.  They have done their homework.  Yet I can find no such detailed analysis from the archaeologists.  In one of my last clips (posted again below) Dunn examines in fine detail the nature of the cuts using microscope and software technology.  Have the archaeologists done this?  If they have where is it?  How does it address this kind of evidence.  We need to know,

The above cut could only have been achieved with a very thin walled tool.  Either some special hardened metallic diamond cutter or sound or laser.  In one of his later examinations Dunn tries to replicate the cuts using a specific type of laser but the microscope match is negative.  Could it have been done using another type?  I don't know.  I know however that it was nothing crude as Mr O is advocating.

Zoser, what's the source of that picture?
Do you have a link to it?

[kampz]

Evidence says these guys were professional masons. You either farmed or were a mason to make a buck. The inventors of there time probably helped. The best masons probably didn't go to war unless attacked on the job. The best masons were probably treated with more respect/royalty then the common folk. The guys who created spectacular things were like celebrities. They're stories of "Human Gods" teaching humans how to accomplish such things. But it doesn't seem to hard when you say practice makes perfect. Now if you complain about the time created I could see what your saying. The Pyramids of Giza I understand. The evidence isn't clear at all.

"The above cut could only have been achieved with a very thin walled tool.  Either some special hardened metallic diamond cutter" - Like a Diamond blade? Kings got those and all awesome things. It's MTV Cribs over there.

Edited by kampz, 14 December 2012 - 03:09 AM.

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the L, on 12 December 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

Im aware that it isnt usual grey in sacuer coming from sky and teach apes how to live but I explain my stance.

No you do not explain your stance, that is why I keep asking the same question, but for some reason you keep providing the ambiguous gibberish you have above, yet again I might add. Spit it out man. Do you mean a being fro another planet or are you banging on about some philosophical BS?

the L, on 12 December 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

But I dont see why not Plasma life wouldnt exist if scientists argued about that as possible idea. I get feeling that you are getting disapointed because it isnt greys, thats different exotic life form then we ever encounter is on the scene. Why dont they studied us I dont know, or on what level their intelligence is.

The people involved have said the behaviors indicate intelligence and that could possibly indicate and intelligent being the likes of which we have never understood. That's bloody it. They are not saying this is going to open up a new realm of life, you are jumping the gun horribly. How do you know this is not some for of proto life that gave rise to that first spark, or indeed the catalyst that allows amino acids to form a cell and begin to divide.

And you assumption is patently ridiculous, Grey alien concepts have no place in this very discussion. I cannot still fathom how you come to call this phenomena extra terrestrial, the same answer I have been asking all along.

the L, on 12 December 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

And if there is intelligent being outthere how do you exactly know that it didnt establish communication in the past?

What reason do I have to think that it has? AA rubbish? Surely you jest.

the L, on 12 December 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

Thank you on your scrupulosity.

So, your a jerk by nature, and not practise I take it from this comment?

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the L, on 12 December 2012 - 09:34 AM, said:

Ofcourse it is, because obviously history isnt your field but you constantly pressing something what is______(say what everyou want so you could understand.)

What the hell has history got to do with HP?

Yes, if you think attempting to understand someone is constantly pressing, if you open your mouth, be clear in what you say.

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Time to call in AAA !

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Harte, on 14 December 2012 - 01:23 AM, said:

Not really.
The kerf on that saw was easily 5 mm.  Look closely.  The biottom of the cut is a flat surface at least 5 mm in height (from that angle.)
Harte

rightio, so it could have been down with contemporary tools and techniques?
Interesting - shoots my theory in the face though therefore you are wrong

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the L, on 12 December 2012 - 09:48 AM, said:

No thats hypthesis. We are here on alternative forum. Nevertheless if arent idea is valid. If plasma life form exist and it is intellegent could it be that in past encounter with humanity?
Since you cant connect two dots I see that isnt language barrier. Its mind barrier.

I cannot connect dots? How many times have I asked you how does past mean another planet?

Edited by psyche101, 14 December 2012 - 03:35 AM.

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the L, on 12 December 2012 - 09:44 AM, said:

Im not hiding or changing subject. Why would I change subject since I brought idea to this thread? And sorry Im kind of lost of this conversation where I answer to your 7 posts then you to my 6 then I to your 8 and so on. It might happened that I skip one question but not as my intention. Rather like accident.

Furthermore I never claim that I solve anything, dont know where you concluded that from. If your question is why do I think that Plasma is ET then I must say that I answered to you. Nevertheless if you want developed answer I would bring it to you in future posts.

About attitude- Yes you have attitude. Atleast thats my impression maybe Im wrong. And yes that is my attitude what you just wrote. Why? Eye for an eye.

Well you are being a complete horses behind about the whole incident. I noticed we had language problem early in the piece and genuinely asked you if this was the case so I could take that into account. You and Abe took offense to this for whatever reason I still do not know. I tried to meet you half way, but you are determined to keep this from being an amicable exchange.

I do not want your developed answer, you still have not told me why a plasma life from is from another planet. How about you clear you some basics first?

[kampz]

whoops

Edited by kampz, 14 December 2012 - 03:54 AM.

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kampz, on 14 December 2012 - 03:39 AM, said:

I understand the Ancient Alien theory is a believe of yours? What's the evidence? Is it Ancient Sumer? What about the people way before that? What's your idea of an Alien like the one that created us?

Not in the slightest, I think it is the biggest pile of Horse Hockey I have ever heard in my life, excepting perhaps crop circles. What on earth gave you that idea?

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the L, on 12 December 2012 - 09:52 AM, said:

Now, Im sure he understand. One who wants to communicate will communicate even using pidgin.

Pidgin is fine, you are not even getting that far. How many times do I have to ask you to translate this sentence for me? I see Abe refused to, what is the story there? When I asked the both of you got on your high horses and went on about how rude it is to ask you to make the sentence clearer.

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I told that is unlogic and it is to think that if one man in europe divide history to help himself in organization that those time borders are cut and dry and actually true.

What the hell does that mean??? I have asked like 4 times? You refuse to answer it, and then say I am rude for asking, what is your problem?

Are you using Google to translate or something?

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psyche101, on 14 December 2012 - 03:41 AM, said:

Not in the slightest, I think it is the biggest pile of Horse Hockey I have ever heard in my life, excepting perhaps crop circles. What on earth gave you that idea?

ahhh perfect timing on my edit. Sorry I had the wrong guy. Forget it. lol

Edited by kampz, 14 December 2012 - 03:56 AM.

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the L, on 12 December 2012 - 09:58 AM, said:

Okay now Im start to thinking that English isnt your mother language, m I right?

Well, you are a much nastier personality than I first thought, I will give you that much.

the L, on 12 December 2012 - 10:02 AM, said:

Not post 1608. Nice 1608. (A year)

Why not be a little clearer to start with? Do you like people asking you questions, does that make you feel important? I assume you are referring to the luminous lights?

It indicates to me that the Hessdalen phenomena might creep, like the magnetic pole. What about Germany 1561, or for that matter the Belgian flap? If it creeps slowly perhaps the link it tectonic. Yes people see lights in the sky all over the earth, that in no way qualifies as alien.

[kampz]

you should relax though. lol

Edited by kampz, 14 December 2012 - 04:08 AM.