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#121    sutemi

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:16 AM

George Carlin - education and critical thinking


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:49 AM

I think this subject also comes down to what some consider intelligence.Some people are better with modern technology than others,and some are better at critical skills.

I have some knowledge about computers and current tech,but others i am sure on this site blow my limited amount away.Though when talking about the human body and/or ways to heal it,survival skills like how to hunt,fish,grow food,and basically live of the land i would bet i know more than most of the techies.Many now days prefer to specialize in what they learn,i prefer to learn some of everything i can remember lol

"If it is not advantageous,do not move.If objectives can not be attained,do not employ the army.Unless endangered do not engage in warfare.The ruler cannot mobilize the army out of personal anger.The general can not engage in battle because of personal frustration.When it is advantageous,move;when not advantageous,stop.Anger can revert to happiness,annoyance can revert to joy,but a vanquished state cannot be revived,the dead cannot be brought back to life." Sun-Tzu

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:55 AM

Albert Einstein once said:

"I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots."

...and I believe that he was spot on.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 03:10 PM

let  me  tell  you a story .  once upon a time ,one  was  with  its  space,  unique  and a single being  of  cell .  later  that  day,  meny cells  collected togather  is  the  meny  of  a kind...  the  meny  of  a kind  was  unique and  a single being  of  cells  .
later  that  day  the  cells  on  the  left  became  diffrent  than  the  cells  of  the  right ...  unique  within  the  meny ,  collections  of  uniqueness  with  in....   then  the  collective  of  meny...   then  the  uniqueness  of  one ...  then  the  collective  of  meny...   then  the  uniqueness  of  one...  and  then  the change to  the  collective  of  meny...   then  the change to  uniqueness  of  the  one ...

man  as  the  solo act ,  working   as a self  complete  being with  out  need  of  civil contracts ... to ... the  team  player who  works  as  a member  of  a  unit...   to...  a  civil  contract of  city   and  culture ....  to  ...  loyalty  and  nation being...

we  are  not  getting  stupid ,  we  are  becoming  specialists ....   what  you see  as  a weakness ,  i  see  as  civil  glue ,  binding  us  togather ...  uniqueness  explored ,  held  togather  by  the  raw  force  of  needing  others  for  the  very air  you breath ,  food  you eat ,  lives   played  out....    the  problem  is...   we  do  not  have  the  right  to  repell  those  with  out  the  same  civil  contract  ...   the  preditors who  see  the  civil  contract  of  specialists  as  a flaw ,  and  the  way  of  the  jungle  as  the  true  law .   it  is  the  history  of  the  human  race  ,  the  higher  evolved beings  ,  being  riped  to  peices  by  the  fools  and  stupid ...  who  think   being  very  focused  is  a flaw...


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 03:15 PM

View PostAsadora, on 24 February 2013 - 10:55 AM, said:

Albert Einstein once said:

"I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots."

...and I believe that he was spot on.

Kind Regards.

Not that I'm questioning this particular Einstein quote, but has anyone else ever wondered if Einstein really said all the things that get attributed to him on the internet?

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 03:31 PM

View Postonereaderone, on 24 February 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

let  me  tell  you a story .  once upon a time ,one  was  with  its  space,  unique  and a single being  of  cell .  later  that  day,  meny cells  collected togather  is  the  meny  of  a kind...  the  meny  of  a kind  was  unique and  a single being  of  cells  .
later  that  day  the  cells  on  the  left  became  diffrent  than  the  cells  of  the  right ...  unique  within  the  meny ,  collections  of  uniqueness  with  in....   then  the  collective  of  meny...   then  the  uniqueness  of  one ...  then  the  collective  of  meny...   then  the  uniqueness  of  one...  and  then  the change to  the  collective  of  meny...   then  the change to  uniqueness  of  the  one ...

man  as  the  solo act ,  working   as a self  complete  being with  out  need  of  civil contracts ... to ... the  team  player who  works  as  a member  of  a  unit...   to...  a  civil  contract of  city   and  culture ....  to  ...  loyalty  and  nation being...

we  are  not  getting  stupid ,  we  are  becoming  specialists ....   what  you see  as  a weakness ,  i  see  as  civil  glue ,  binding  us  togather ...  uniqueness  explored ,  held  togather  by  the  raw  force  of  needing  others  for  the  very air  you breath ,  food  you eat ,  lives   played  out.... the  problem  is...   we  do  not  have  the  right  to  repell  those  with  out  the  same  civil  contract  ...   the  preditors who  see  the  civil  contract  of  specialists  as  a flaw ,  and  the  way  of  the  jungle  as  the  true  law .   it  is  the  history  of  the  human  race  ,  the  higher  evolved beings  ,  being  riped  to  peices  by  the  fools  and  stupid ...  who  think   being  very  focused  is  a flaw...

Using this logic i look around and see more unhealthy cells anymore than healthy,which has started to turn into a cancerous tumor that has started to spread through the body and eat it alive.There is becoming more and more people who cannot do anything for themselves and depend on others knowledge and abilities to do it for them.Who knows what the final outcome will be,but at this pace we are headed for trouble sooner or later.

"If it is not advantageous,do not move.If objectives can not be attained,do not employ the army.Unless endangered do not engage in warfare.The ruler cannot mobilize the army out of personal anger.The general can not engage in battle because of personal frustration.When it is advantageous,move;when not advantageous,stop.Anger can revert to happiness,annoyance can revert to joy,but a vanquished state cannot be revived,the dead cannot be brought back to life." Sun-Tzu

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:54 PM

View PostCrimsonKing, on 24 February 2013 - 10:49 AM, said:

I think this subject also comes down to what some consider intelligence.Some people are better with modern technology than others,and some are better at critical skills.

I have some knowledge about computers and current tech,but others i am sure on this site blow my limited amount away.Though when talking about the human body and/or ways to heal it,survival skills like how to hunt,fish,grow food,and basically live of the land i would bet i know more than most of the techies.Many now days prefer to specialize in what they learn,i prefer to learn some of everything i can remember lol

In regards to this, for me... I just want to improve my natural functions and be aware enough to know when or how I need to be resourceful. I think that even without our current technology we could rely on our built in programming. I know that perhaps that may sound a bit rose-tinted; however, I believe that no matter how we -became to be- and no matter who/what/if/or something either helped to create us or did indeed create us, that we were instilled with the information we already need to have in order to survive regardless of how 'mentally dumb' we become. I think less technology and more actual human interaction would be one thing that could broaden all of our awarenesses. (As I type that on the Internet.)

There is more to us, Humans than just -being Human- for we are all made of stardust and that's some awesome stuff!
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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:05 PM

View PostAsadora, on 24 February 2013 - 10:54 PM, said:

In regards to this, for me... I just want to improve my natural functions and be aware enough to know when or how I need to be resourceful. I think that even without our current technology we could rely on our built in programming. I know that perhaps that may sound a bit rose-tinted; however, I believe that no matter how we -became to be- and no matter who/what/if/or something either helped to create us or did indeed create us, that we were instilled with the information we already need to have in order to survive regardless of how 'mentally dumb' we become. I think less technology and more actual human interaction would be one thing that could broaden all of our awarenesses. (As I type that on the Internet.)

There is more to us, Humans than just -being Human- for we are all made of stardust and that's some awesome stuff!
:tu:

Not rose tinted at all,we are another animal after all.We have instincts but instincts must be used,refined if you will.If someone uses these instincts on a regular basis they become natural as breathing,if not ever used when they are needed it can cost precious time that may not be available.

"If it is not advantageous,do not move.If objectives can not be attained,do not employ the army.Unless endangered do not engage in warfare.The ruler cannot mobilize the army out of personal anger.The general can not engage in battle because of personal frustration.When it is advantageous,move;when not advantageous,stop.Anger can revert to happiness,annoyance can revert to joy,but a vanquished state cannot be revived,the dead cannot be brought back to life." Sun-Tzu

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:16 AM

View PostFstop, on 24 February 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:



Not that I'm questioning this particular Einstein quote, but has anyone else ever wondered if Einstein really said all the things that get attributed to him on the internet?

Lol no but look up the Einstein and Hitler quote test. http://reverent.org/..._or_hitler.html It's funny yet scary

What hurts my head the most about this whole thing are the people who just memorize things and become nothing more then walking books(Last time I checked books are only useful when being used by people).


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:23 AM

We have computers to read books for us now and send down the cliffnotes. Why so serious.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 06:08 AM

I loved cliffnotes during school gave me time to actual read good books =D


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:59 PM

well it kinda has to degrade. without the pressure of natural selection, entropy does its work: There are many more ways to have a pile of slop in your head than to have a well ordered structure, so noise is going to enter the system. anyway, we'll surely start modifying ourselves before it ever drops very low.

Even if it did drop low enough we'd probably end up in a tribal situation where competition would likely drive it back up again- competition amongst ourselves being the probable mechanism that drove us so far beyond other animals in the first place.

Edited by Ad hoc, 25 February 2013 - 08:00 PM.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:03 PM

View Postonereaderone, on 24 February 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:

we  are  not  getting  stupid ,  we  are  becoming  specialists ....   what  you see  as  a weakness ,  i  see  as  civil  glue ,  binding  us  togather ...

This civil glue is not binding very well.. I like your overall picture in the post but here is where it all come's un-stuck imo..
In a world full of specialists it only takes the loss of one aspect of specialisation for the entire civil machine to collapse..

That's not very smart.

Edited by Professor T, 25 February 2013 - 09:20 PM.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:56 PM

View PostProfessor T, on 21 February 2013 - 02:38 AM, said:

I think technology has a lot to answer for too.
I'm a mathematical dunce thank's to my calculator..
So one as to wonder if I wouldn't be such a dunce with numbers if didn't own a calculator..

Perhaps if there were no calculators you'd simply ask someone else to do it.


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:59 PM

View PostDetective Mystery 2013, on 21 February 2013 - 05:01 AM, said:

We should tighten up our problem-solving skills. I apologize for that. I read somewhere that humans' alleged loss of intelligence and/or knowledge was linked to the fact that technology did more work for us after the advent of the computerized age. Our brains got less exercise. It was like how modern communication and transportation made some members of past generations less fit because they weren't forced to exercise their bodies as much as pre-car and pre-phone people were. We now have calculators, spell-check, global-positioning, etc. that replace skills that improve with use. On a related note, I read that today's children first learned to tie their shoes at older ages than their elders did. The story also claimed that they were behind in motor skills.

A different kind of intelligence doesn't mean a more dumb intelligence.
New generations are learning to think on a different level. For example: before you had the generations that built the computers and gave the starting point. Now the inquiring minds find ways to built things with computers, manipulate software.
Creating software is also building, and the new generations learn it as a mother language.





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