My belief is almost it's own religion

[Vincent3004]

Hello

I'm user known as 'Vincent3004'. You can call me Vince, Vin, Vincent, Vinny, V, 3004, anything to do with my username

I'll have to strongly suggest that you do not proceed any further if your strongly religionist, and with that you are closed minded. If you are religionst and are opened to ideas. Then, proceed. One more thing. I don't believe in much religion, nor do I believe in science for that matter. So, I'm no atheist and I do believe in something. Just, closed about it.

I ask many questions in my life-time.

What are they?

What is life?

What is spirits, what are ghost, what are demons?

Can one train themselfs to see spirits? Or is that only a 'gift' that few can have? And if they do have it. Were they chosen to have it before they were even born?

Is there a 'god' out there? If there is. Why just watch?

Is the bible real? Or are there powerful works behind it in the after-life that works on making it 'alive'?

I have many questions and most of them cannot be fully justified. Why? Because where are the facts? Statements? Proof? Nowhere, and if they are somewhere; where can I obtain these documents?

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I believe in spirits, ghost, demons, angels, alien life-forms, and other beings that I do not know the name of.

Why are they with us? I wonder that, I'd like to know, share the story with others who are willing to look for it too.

And to those who beg the question; "If it isn't known. Shouldn't that mean it should be best not to 'know'?"

I ask this; How many secrets are kept from others? How many of them ruined our lifes? And not only ours. But other life on this planet as we know it? Many. I know that, in theory, and you think that, in theory. If we believe it to be true, or not. The fact remains. It's hiding and the truth is hidden; so how can we know? We have to go looking for it. Once found. Do we dare share it? And if we do. Who'll believe in it? How many would follow in it? How many would help change the world, our life and other life we share on this planet. For the better?

Not many. Not many.

I just want to know stories about 'truth' and share the knowledge with others.

Lets get some subjects on the table now.

Shadow People/Shadow being with the Hat -

Who, or, what are they? Why are they here? Are they simple illusions?

A question that cannot be answered, that cannot be justicfied.

We can, I can, only wonder and ask why they are here. If anybody can see them. Does that mean they hold 'life' in their own way? To have 'life' simply means to 'exist' (doesn't it?). And to 'exist', you must be 'knowledge' as a being of life. If you aren't. Then you aren't 'alive', or, 'existing'. You get what I'm trying to say?

I'm trying to say they do exist. Like spirits, like ghost, like aliens.

If you believe in them or not. They exist.

How do they exist?

How many people here have seen them?

How many people here had first hand experience with them?

How many people who haven't?

How can you see them?

You can easily see them, example; look at your own shadow, there, you saw your own 'shadow being' for one example. Now, how do you see others? Look at other casting shadows that 'exist'.

Now, what of them? How does one see them? There are many ways to see these 'beings', many.

I know of only these methods;

1) Close your eyes, try and see with, or, through the darkness. After awhile. You should come to see a few things. What are they? Images?

2) In the darkness, or with, casting shadows. Do you see any extra hints of a person being there?

- These are the only ways I know of -

Should you be scared? I don't want to answer that. Why? Because, they could be harmful, or, they can be friendly; each to their-own.

I haven't studied them long enough to know 'what to do' in situations if they attack.

+ Have I have any experience with 'Shadow Beings'?

- I have. I use to play with my 'sight' a lot. I would see them. Moving around, walking in the hallway, walking towards me. I, sometimes, felt like

they were 'touching' me. And. They were. But, they never did anything harmful, or, what would be consider harmful.

To me; they were friendly.

Demons/Entities -

Demons, Entities, what are they? Are they human? Are they animal? Are they beings that are neither? Are they alien?

Who knows. Most demons aren't friendly, rather, they shouldn't be friendly. If they were. Or, wanted to be. I'd ask questions, many, get to know them (while having my guard up, all the while).

It shouldn't be considered involving yourself with them. I can only theories for I haven't encountered a 'demon' in my life. But. From analysing the stories from others share, and those that were told. It's easy to say. They cannot be friendly. If they are; they must have some kind of motive behind it, which is why, one shouldn't consider be-friending them.

If I had the chance to speak with one, to, friend it. Would I? I'll honestly tell you what... I would. Why? To gain knowledge about what they know, and add it to my (personal) belief.

What would I ask?

- Who are you? What was you previous name before you changed it into a demonic name?

- Were you once human? If no. What race were you before, before, becoming this?

- If you had any mistakes in your 'previous-life'; what were they? And why?

- If you could, would you move-on?

- Are there such a thing as 'angels'?

- Is a place known to the living called 'hell' in the after-life? If so. What's the purpose behind it?

- Is there an organization, a group, working behind the believe of the 'bible'? What do I mean by this? I mean this; are there people working hard to make the bible 'real'?

- What made you become a 'demon'?

- What do you wish to fullfill on your path, of demonhood?

- What are great spirits are there, in that world, in our world?

- How long have you been around?

- (if they haunt a certain item, object, place, area, anything they can attach their(ere) souls too) Why did you choose this object, area, to haunt?

What did you original planned, when, your idea first came at you?

- If I were to die, now. Would I be able to see you, in the after-life? And if I could. Would I want to kill you, for what you've done, if I even could.

What would you do? Kill me?

- Can we die again in the afterlife? If so. Where do we go from there? If we can't. Then we'll continue to live, forever? Or is there 'age' restrictions

in the after life; by this I mean, can we visit certain time-era's?

- Does 'time' exist in the after-life?

Depending how I receive my answers. I'd re-think my belief; changing it into a more 'fitting' prospective.

Now, if they plan on harming me. Or you. What can you use to defend yourself?

(in my encounters with other non-friendly spirits, I found these to be strongly helpful, and knowledge what can be use as 'weapons' against any non-friendly spirits, demons)

1 - Keep yourself calm, even your emotions are running wild, you can still try and keep yourself calm.

2 - Clear your mind. That way, your have more of a grip on things.

3 - The bible, if you believe in it or not, is a weapon in it, itself.

4 - other religions, cultures, that have been around sense ancient times; depending on them. They can be used as protections, weapons, shields.

Better to know, instead of being blinded.

5 - Keep a distant, some times, they cannot go far from which they -reside-.

6 - Examined, analogize your situation with sound, sight, feel, taste, temperature, each sense you can be fully aware; but be warned(!), they might

use these against you, at the same time.

7 - Be worry of its 'abilities', try not to provoke it much as possible. Be friendly, if anything. If it all goes wrong. Leave the area, which you believe,

belongs in his territory; it's haunted grounds.

8 - If possible. Try to reason with it. If it wants you gone, leave. IF it WANTS something. Seek help, from somebody whose more experience

in the paranormal; don't try to do it alone, you might end up making it worst.

9 - This goes with '8': If you don't leave, and, continue asking for favours(questions). Try and watch what you request.

10 - Prey, to god, to a love one, to anything that you believe which may be of 'help'. If anything. Any being is willing to lend a hand. Just, don't

abuse this. Or, use it an escape plan(I mean, if you go in and have planned on using this, it might not end up working for you because you

they might've heard you, and, well, wants you to have the experiance to learn from it. What I'm trying to say. Don't just use them freely,

to you pleasing. Respect them, with your love and spirit. Or else, something bad might happen).

I cannot go any further because I know not of 'fact' but only 'theories'.

This is all I can share. If you want to hear more from me. I'll continue by positng more (I've yet to share my full 'belief'). Sorry if I'm making it sound like I know everything. I don't. I only theorize all of this from fact from what I've read, heard, watched, and been told. That's all.

[Grandpa Greenman]

So you are a Spiritualist? You don't seem very open minded. Looks like you have figured it all out yourself and you are just looking for people to agree with your statements. If you don't believe in science, then what are you doing on a computer. Computers really aren't magic, so without the science behind the technology the computer is not going to work. Just because you don't understand the science doesn't make science less real, it is not about belief. Science is a method by which to explore properties of nature and how it functions. Personally I am very glad for science as I wouldn't be alive without it, I would have died as a child.

Now, I am kind of an odd kind of geek in that I am also a Pagan and dabble in witchcraft. Do us all a favor, when you open those spiritual doors to the "demons" or whatever, make sure you close the door and whatever you have let in is back on the other side.

[Vincent3004]

So you are a Spiritualist? You don't seem very open minded. Looks like you have figured it all out yourself and you are just looking for people to agree with your statements. If you don't believe in science, then what are you doing on a computer. Computers really aren't magic, so without the science behind the technology the computer is not going to work. Just because you don't understand the science doesn't make science less real, it is not about belief. Science is a method by which to explore properties of nature and how it functions. Personally I am very glad for science as I wouldn't be alive without it, I would have died as a child.

Now, I am kind of an odd kind of geek in that I am also a Pagan and dabble in witchcraft. Do us all a favor, when you open those spiritual doors to the "demons" or whatever, make sure you close the door and whatever you have let in is back on the other side.

You are mistaken when I say I don't believe in it.

I disbelieve in it for the fact how it treats spirituality, and how everything 'must' be explain when they cannot explain everything, yet. There are still many questions. I dis-believe in it because of that. Doesn't mean I don't mind using it. ^.^ Sorry for your misunderstanding.

[Strong Flower]

You my friend have a lot of questions. Which is GOOD

Greetings to you Vince, I'm a metaphysician. What is metaphysics in my own words???

# It is the study of the SPIRIT and unexplainable, which ventures beyond mainstream science(theory) and religion(superstition)

I have to tell you spirituality is very vast and different things work for different people. "Spiritualist" is a broad term just like metaphysics but usually boils down to same meaning. A fun thing about this kind of research is how logic almost never makes sense. Here's an interesting quote, "From The Nothing Comes The Absolute"

My first advice to start a good discussion is study your dreams, emotions, weird cravings, culture, overall daily life and do some research to find out what spiritual systems resonates with you. You will be baffled by the information you acquire.

Edited April 6, 2015 by Khamical X

[Stubbly_Dooright]

Hello Vincinte3004, How are you doing?

Your thread title certainly got my attention. I too, feel I have my own belief system or faith. And as GreensmanGod pointed out, probably a spiritualist like you. Well, Heck, I know I am a Spiritualist. The thing, the path you have taken in this, is just like mine. And I so identify with looking within yourself. That is how I see it and as how it is my guide. I too have many questions, and I have most of your questions here myself. The thing is, I'm at peace with either the answers I get through real literal answers or my spiritual answers. Even if I don't get answers at all. I think you are not at the point where I am, but that could be also that you are on a different path as well. But I relate to your spiritual path and I wish you so much luck. I think you need more time to get there, but that's is me.

[XenoFish]

Do not discard science and psychology for the sake of spirituality. If you want knowledge you must grasp all possibilities. Mind-psychology, body-science, soul-spirituality.

[back to earth]

Hey V.

Nah, I dont have time to answer all those questions, but I can steer in you towards some views that might help you get some answers yourself.

1. Read up and know the difference between science and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientism

2. For view on what constitutes 'valid' human experience and our views on what constitutes 'reality' I recommend this book;

http://www.harpur.org/PJCHdaimonicreality.htm

3. For a view on 'demons' start with

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_%28classical_mythology%29

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon

4. For a clinical, professional (and working hypothesis) view try

http://www.searchwithin.org/download/presence_spirits.pdf

If you get those concepts under your belt most of your questions will be answered.

[Beany]

There are a few things I know for certain, much more that I don't know, and almost nothing I believe in except for the power of truth, integrity, love, and heart wisdom. I don't seek anything, if there's something I need to know I let it find and inform me. This is sort of like juggling with all the balls in the air, maybe I'm the things being juggled, maybe I'm the juggler, don't really know. It will become clear or it won't. So this, for me, is what passes for philosophy & spirituality. I guess I'm a minimalist.

[Podo]

I think OP's post is full of blatant disregard for logic and observable fact, but if that's his belief then that's fine. His beliefs are just as valid (or invalid, as the case may be) as any other religion in the world. He doesn't really seem to be pushing his beliefs on anyone, however, and so I'm okay with it. As long as it continues not to be pushed, or declared I'm-right-you're-wrong, then by all means, keep his beliefs, as long as he doesn't rage at others for not holding them. If he can handle that, he's already a step ahead of most followers of abrahamic faiths.

[Beany]

What I liked about the post was the "thus far" phrase. What we know or believe when we're young usually changes with age, experience, and new information. It's always good to keep our minds open.