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[Merged] Poll: 53% disapprove of ObamaCare

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#151    CyberKen

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 12:21 PM

View PostStartraveler, on 28 September 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

Not that hard to ignore. Medicare spending growth (and health care spending growth more generally, for that matter) is about as low as it's ever been, so the IPAB isn't empowered to do anything.

No Medicare cuts from IPAB in 2015

iPAB will set rates on certain procedures to levels where no doctor or hospital will perform them.

Howard Dean revealed that truth a few weeks ago.

iPAB = Pull the plug on Grandma


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 04:03 PM

The IPAB (which doesn't even have any members at this point) only gets to issue recommendations if per capita Medicare cost growth is above a certain target.

But it isn't, since per capita Medicare cost growth is the lowest it's ever been.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 04:33 PM

View PostStartraveler, on 29 September 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

The IPAB (which doesn't even have any members at this point) only gets to issue recommendations if per capita Medicare cost growth is above a certain target.

But it isn't, since per capita Medicare cost growth is the lowest it's ever been.

Shhhhhh....

You're undermining CyberKen's soapbox. ;)

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 01:43 PM

View PostStartraveler, on 29 September 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

The IPAB (which doesn't even have any members at this point) only gets to issue recommendations if per capita Medicare cost growth is above a certain target.

But it isn't, since per capita Medicare cost growth is the lowest it's ever been.

The truth was revealed by Howard Dean.  Maybe you should give Howard a phone call.

iPAB will simply set rates to levels where no doctor or hospital will perform them. - Death Panels -

It's called rationing.

Old System: The doctor will see you now

ObamaCare: The doctor will NOT see you now. Take a number and good luck!


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Posted 01 October 2013 - 01:00 AM

View PostCyberKen, on 30 September 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

iPAB will simply set rates to levels where no doctor or hospital will perform them. - Death Panels -

no they wont. They can't "set" anything.

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It's called rationing.

we have that now and have had for a long time.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 01:52 PM

View Postninjadude, on 01 October 2013 - 01:00 AM, said:

no they wont. They can't "set" anything.



we have that now and have had for a long time.

The rationing will make headlines.  Fewer Doctors = Lines Wrapped Around The Block

The doctor Will Not see you now.


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 02:54 AM

View PostCyberKen, on 01 October 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

The rationing will make headlines.  Fewer Doctors = Lines Wrapped Around The Block

do you have a track record for your predictions? otherwise you just spewing crap.

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