Nucular Power in Canada?

[Charlie Donuts]

Using a qoute from one of Stephen Kings classics, "Stick one of those used core- rods up your a** for a half-hour or so, then try to tell everyone nuclear power is safe when your turds start to glow in the dark!"

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Well now they are putting a nuclear power plant in Peace River which is a town in west northern Alberta, Canada. It is located on the Peace River, at its confluence with the Smoky River and Heart River. As of 2006 it had a poulation of 6315. If a nuclear disaster were to occur this is how it would happen, Nuclear "Accidents" have 3 waves of deaths. Wave 1: the people who are instantly cooked in the nuclear accident, Wave 2:The Leukemia victims mostly kids and young people, Wave 3 which is the deadliest: Cancer in adults 40 and older, so much cancer... Melanoma, breast cancer, liver cancer,skin cancer,bone cancer,intestinal cancer, bladder cancer, Tumors and the list just goes on, and on, and on, and on. if the reactor blew it would wipe out Peace River and the surrounding aboriginal reserves. But why should the government care , just a couple dead indians. Oh but the disaster would spread! It would spread radioactive garbage down the river and into the enviroment... the highway signs around Kyshtym said "Close all windows, Close all vents and drive as fast as your car will allow for the next 20 miles" pics are available under The Freedom Of Informations Act, if you can read russian. Screw global warming, we need electricity!!!!! And if it didn't blow (which it will) where on this side of hell are they gonna put the used core rods and radioactive waste? Do you know where they take them? THEY ARE EVERYWHERE SITTING IN HELL-HOLES OF SHALLOW WATER... THEY ARE HOT AND ARE GONNA STAY HOT FOR A LONG-DAMN-TIME!!! THEY ARE LOSING TRACK OF THES PILES ALL THE TIME!!! Like children who go to bed and wake up without the faintest clue of where they left their toys!!! enough plutonium has been lost to blow up the entire good 'ole U-S of A!!!most of the time it blows up then gets covered up by are wonderful government.. Canada used to be a clean place and now...

I'm going to end by taking another quote from Stephen Kings classic... "and we all just stand here with are drinks in our hands..."

Edited December 3, 2007 by Charlie Donuts

[Stellar]

What?

1. Nuclear power is clean. Cleaner than many of the alternatives.

2. Why do you say it will definitly blow? We've had nuclear powerplants in Canada for quite some time and there's been no disaster so far...

[Ins0mniac]

Using a qoute from one of Stephen Kings classics, "Stick one of those used core- rods up your a** for a half-hour or so, then try to tell everyone nuclear power is safe when your turds start to glow in the dark!"

Oh that's a very wise and intellectual quote! How about I say, "Stick yourself into the furnace of a coal plant and tell everyone that conventional power plants are safe"?

Or get stuck in a turbine of a wind power plant and tell everyone that renewable energy is safe"?

How about I suggest nobody would do any of those things... Anything can be dangerous if you try hard enough.

How many hundreds of nuclear power plants have been running for how many years around the world and how many accidents have actually occurred? 1 in Chernobyl (which was due to a huge amount of human stupidity and would never happen in a modern western facility)? Maybe 2 or 3 if you count minor accidents that did not cause anywhere near the damage Chernobyl did.

Remember, nuclear power doesn't cause global warming and does not pollute the air. It can also totally replace coal and oil power plants, which renewable power plants simply do not have the capacity to do yet.

Edited December 3, 2007 by Ins0mniac

[Guardsman Bass]

Don't waste your time. The guy posting in the OP is a friend of Greenpeace, who are about as anti-nuclear and anti-scientific as you can get for an environmental group (I love on how said page, they say "3,500 people were evacuated from the Three Mile Island area" but absolutely fail to mention that not only did nobody die, but there were no long term effects on the population and area!

You want an idea of how intellectually dishonest Greenpeace is about this whole issue? Click on the "End the Nuclear Age" section, and watch the little video they have of the jet plane crashing in a terrorist attack on a nuclear plant. Sounds dangerous, huh? Too bad they fail to mention that they design the concrete surrounding the core to be very tough - tough enough to be more likely to withstand a plane impact than not.

Using a qoute from one of Stephen Kings classics, "Stick one of those used core- rods up your a** for a half-hour or so, then try to tell everyone nuclear power is safe when your turds start to glow in the dark!"

Hey, paranoid little eco-b****, bring me a pound of plutonium, and I'll eat it.

Edited December 3, 2007 by Guardsman Bass

[Atheist God]

Hey, paranoid little eco-b****, bring me a pound of plutonium, and I'll eat it.

Umm... If you did this and survived you and whatever kids you may want to have will end up being mutants and not the awesome kind we see in comics.

[Ins0mniac]

Umm... If you did this and survived you and whatever kids you may want to have will end up being mutants and not the awesome kind we see in comics.

Huh? It might increase his risk of cancer in the future by a very tiny percentage, but that's about it. But then, so does having an X-ray taken.

Edited December 3, 2007 by Ins0mniac

[el midgetron]

Huh? It might increase his risk of cancer in the future by a very tiny percentage, but that's about it. But then, so does having an X-ray taken.

? Are you saying eating a pound of plutonium is as dangerous as getting an x-ray?

Man, I wish I had a pound of plutonium..............

[Ins0mniac]

? Are you saying eating a pound of plutonium is as dangerous as getting an x-ray?

Man, I wish I had a pound of plutonium..............

Probably not exactly the same as getting an x-ray. I'm no expert. But from what I understand, it's not going to make you instantly keel over and die or anything drastic like that.

I'm sure it's not good for you though, just like swallowing some lead probably isn't good for you.

The thing is, the stuff will just pass right through you. The real risk is if it were to stay in your body long term.

Although I admit, if it's in particle form, it's supposed to be pretty dangerous to get in your body, from what I understand.

Edited December 3, 2007 by Ins0mniac

[Guardsman Bass]

Although I admit, if it's in particle form, it's supposed to be pretty dangerous to get in your body, from what I understand.

It's dangerous if you breathe in the particles, since they get lodged in your lungs and give off alpha radiation, which damages the tissue and increases your chance of cancer. You can eat a small quantity of it without a lot of harm because it simply goes through your body fairly quickly.

[rassy]

Nuclear power has been around in Canada for years, so what's your point in bringing it up now?

[Guardsman Bass]

Maybe he's just discovered Greenpeace's website.

[Raptor]

Nuclear power is a lot safer than you'd think. Keep reading about it, maybe by the time you can actually spell the word you'll see.

[Space Commander Travis]

Whereas emissions from coal fired power stations, of course, have never caused any harm to anyone.

Edited December 3, 2007 by 747400

[Mademoiselle]

What?

1. Nuclear power is clean. Cleaner than many of the alternatives.

2. Why do you say it will definitly blow? We've had nuclear powerplants in Canada for quite some time and there's been no disaster so far...

* Tchernobyl

* Hiroshima

* Nagazaki

Very clean !! :angry2:

[Cradle of Fish]

* Tchernobyl

* Hiroshima

* Nagazaki

Very clean !! :angry2:

Hiroshima and Nagasaki? They were destroyed by weapons if I recall correctly. Chernobyl was the only reactor which has ever killed anyone, and thats because it was neglected for ages.

[girty1600]

It's really too bad we can't make nuclear energy safe enough to use on a large grid level without fear of human error, malfunction or terrorist attack because it's quite cheap and with proper controls causes little pollution.

Chernobyl was the only reactor which has ever killed anyone, and thats because it was neglected for ages.

You sure?

[Mademoiselle]

Hiroshima and Nagasaki? They were destroyed by weapons if I recall correctly. Chernobyl was the only reactor which has ever killed anyone, and thats because it was neglected for ages.

Yes . Nuclear weapons ! If i recall correctly .

[Cradle of Fish]

It's really too bad we can't make nuclear energy safe enough to use on a large grid level without fear of human error, malfunction or terrorist attack because it's quite cheap and with proper controls causes little pollution.

You sure?

If we stopped making things out of fear of terrorism, wouldnt that be a win for them? Switching to nuclear over oil would take alot of money out of the middle east.

Yes . Nuclear weapons ! If i recall correctly .

Little Boy and Fat Man worked differently than reactors, and rightfully so, they were designed to explode, whereas reactors are designed to generate electricity. If you're so afraid of 'Nuclear' power, are you afraid of the sun, which is a giant nuclear reactor, pelting us with UV radiation, the occasional solar flare, which one day will expand to melt the surface of the Earth?

[Charlie Donuts]

O u do know that that the death tolls dont include the children murdered because of the leukimea? thats right they killed their own children and what about the abortions ? do you know every pregnant women was given an abortion and no choice was involved? and they were not even included in the death toll... they died crapping out there own intestines and they were not even included. the reason for this being brought up now is because i came across something about nuclear power... and hiroshima and nagasaki were attacks made by the good ole USA .... god bless mom and damn tasty apple pie... i have got s*** all against coal and wind or even hydroelectric power... nothing at alll. i would cry if they finally powered the world with coal or wind or hydro or solar. i dont care about other areas of canada but ill be damned if there gonna screw up the less "tainted" side... and look at how responsible we are here lol. superbugs and infected tools ravage hospitals here all the time and those people who screw up all the tme are DOCTORS... so do you no wut happened in Harrisburg? the idiots put a basketball wrapped in friction tape into a busted waste pipe. it worked fer a while but then the pressure blew it cleanly throught the containment wall...ARRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH... do u know where the magical core rod fairy takes all the used rods? o, welll neither do i. i might be sitting on a pile of em right now. SO COULD YOU. sure it seems clean but wait until they start to uncover these dumpzones..

[Stellar]

thats right they killed their own children and what about the abortions ? do you know every pregnant women was given an abortion and no choice was involved? and they were not even included in the death toll...

But what does that have to due with the death toll due to a nuclear melt down? It has more to due with human responsibility...

And you know what? I'm willing to bet you that there have been vastly, vastly larger amounts of people who died in some way/shape/form due to pollution caused by coal plants than due to chernobyl.

[m. Moe]

Yes . Nuclear weapons ! If i recall correctly .

Sigh. There is a difference between a weapon that is purposefully dropped to kill and a generator meant to create electricity. That's like saying a kitchen knife isn't safe for cuttng vegetables because somebody died because they got stabbed by a switchblade.

Edited December 4, 2007 by m. Moe

[Ins0mniac]

Yes . Nuclear weapons ! If i recall correctly .

That's like trying to prove how dangerous fireworks (that use gunpowder of course) are by the amount of people killed by earlier style guns that also happened to use gunpowder.

Edited December 4, 2007 by Ins0mniac

[m. Moe]

That's like trying to prove how dangerous fireworks (that use gunpowder of course) are by the amount of people killed by earlier style guns that also happened to use gunpowder.

........I still like my comparaison better.

[Ins0mniac]

O u do know that that the death tolls dont include the children murdered because of the leukimea? thats right they killed their own children and what about the abortions ? do you know every pregnant women was given an abortion and no choice was involved? and they were not even included in the death toll... they died crapping out there own intestines and they were not even included.

Which is very unfortunate and rather sad but it's a major disaster has only ever happened once from hundreds of reactors for many decades. And it wont ever happen with a modern western facility. They are nothing like Chernobyl.

i have got s*** all against coal and wind or even hydroelectric power... nothing at alll.

Well that's pretty silly. You do realise coal powerplants are one of the main causes of global warming and also cause huge amounts of air pollution and make people sick from normal operation. Nuclear causes none of that.

do u know where the magical core rod fairy takes all the used rods? o, welll neither do i. i might be sitting on a pile of em right now. SO COULD YOU. sure it seems clean but wait until they start to uncover these dumpzones..

I know one plan is to bury them in specific geological formations that have been shown to have been stable for millions of years and will continue to be stable until well after the radiation has worn off. I wonder if it keeps you up at night worrying about all the unmined radioactive uranium deposits that are occur naturally in the ground also...

and hiroshima and nagasaki were attacks made by the good ole USA .... god bless mom and damn tasty apple pie...

You do realise that if they hadn't have dropped them and ended the war, a lot more people would have died. Although I have no idea what weapons have to do with power plants. Same power source? Oh look your computer uses the same power as the electric chair! Throw it away, quick!!!

Edited December 4, 2007 by Ins0mniac

[Ins0mniac]

........I still like my comparaison better.

Yeah, so do. Missed it before. Good work Mr. Moe person.