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[DieChecker]

If it were me, I'd either...

1) build some "docking stations" for it to recharge several times a day. A short tower where it can attach and recharge without landing. Maybe telescoping and deployable off the back of a pickup truck.

or...

2) Use photovoltaic cells on the balloon to collect electricity while it is inflated, even while flying.

[QuiteContrary]

more info on the 45 foot ship

http://www.gizmag.co...-airship/24537/


"Bigfoot bigfoot, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for YOU, Bigfoot bigfoot ?!"

Edited by QuiteContrary, 16 October 2012 - 09:22 PM.

[Sakari]

scowl, on 16 October 2012 - 05:13 PM, said:

How about noise? I'm anticipating the excuses we'll hear when no Bigfoots are found.

I agree this thing would be excellent for all kinds of biological and ecological research all over the world. It would be great for early detection of forest fires after thunderstorms. I'm surprised there are similar craft in use already.

Looks like it will use a ducted fan system ( from what I read so far ). They are not silent. I am sure it will be using lipoly batteries, and from what I read it will only be up 3 to 4 hours.

Fire fighting blimps....






Ducted fan noise level ( if this is being used )















I do not like this :

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should a Bigfoot be spotted, viewers will only see the first few seconds, with the rest of the footage being saved for a planned educational documentary for the public. He hopes to record at least 45 minutes of smooth, clear Bigfoot footage (or perhaps “Bigfootage”?) for use in that film, half of the proceeds of which will go towards educating the public in wilderness conservation.

I think if something substantial were captured, keeping it hidden until a documentary is made would not be good at all. How many times have we seen " footage to be released soon ", " DNA to be released soon "?

If one is out to prove the existence of a new animal, especially one like this, any evidence should be put out right away, to show the progress of the program built off of donations.




Something I was also wandering about ( I hope these guys show up to discuss things )..

This kind of project I would bet is in the tens of thousands. For a substantially less amount of money ( actually, this is done every day by hunters as I type ) trail cameras with satelite technology can be purchased. The pictures sent through satelite to a home computer.


Smart Scouter Black Ops 940
New for 2011, Smart Scouter introduces the Black Ops 940, a truly advanced scouting/ surveillance camera.  This trail camera wirelessly sends images to your phone or e-mail via satellite so you can instantly know what is in front of your trail camera.  The Black Ops 940 features a wide-angle lens, black-out optical lens filter and a covert flat black finish.  It takes color photos by day and black and white photos by night.  A high-grain antenna means extended wireless reach for better coverage and service which allows you to receive real time photos in an average of 2 minutes.  This unit features an easy to use menu settings and allows the ability to select high, low or mega picture resolutions.  Compatible with AT&T, Sprint and Vnet.



These can be purchased from $250.00. A good number of these in many locations could be placed and monitored.

[Myles]

Sakari, on 17 October 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:

Something I was also wandering about ( I hope these guys show up to discuss things )..

This kind of project I would bet is in the tens of thousands. For a substantially less amount of money ( actually, this is done every day by hunters as I type ) trail cameras with satelite technology can be purchased. The pictures sent through satelite to a home computer.


Smart Scouter Black Ops 940
New for 2011, Smart Scouter introduces the Black Ops 940, a truly advanced scouting/ surveillance camera.  This trail camera wirelessly sends images to your phone or e-mail via satellite so you can instantly know what is in front of your trail camera.  The Black Ops 940 features a wide-angle lens, black-out optical lens filter and a covert flat black finish.  It takes color photos by day and black and white photos by night.  A high-grain antenna means extended wireless reach for better coverage and service which allows you to receive real time photos in an average of 2 minutes.  This unit features an easy to use menu settings and allows the ability to select high, low or mega picture resolutions.  Compatible with AT&T, Sprint and Vnet.



These can be purchased from $250.00. A good number of these in many locations could be placed and monitored.

For the same amount of money, they could have hundreds of cameras put all over the place.  Seems like a better alternative.

[Vidgange]

yeah I don't like that part of holding back information.... But unfortunately I don't think they'll catch BF on footage....

[scowl]

Sakari, on 17 October 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:

I think if something substantial were captured, keeping it hidden until a documentary is made would not be good at all. How many times have we seen " footage to be released soon ", " DNA to be released soon "?

Science is not done in documentaries. It would be a scandal if these professors sold this as a scientific project and ended up using it as a moneymaking scheme. I don't see how their university could back this.

[QuiteContrary]

As I've said, this huge ship is like overkill to me, imo.

Cool, but too much of a good thing for the purpose of tracking what is considered an elusive, wary, and seemingly mostly solitary animal.

Not to mention sighting spots aren't guaranteed.

I know where to look for bighorn sheep or wild horses or even mountain lions---but where  will they know to look for bigfoot? (Speaking as a believer from their POV).

Even if the ship covers a wide area, its limited flight time and expense of flying-- How much area will this ship have cover for its recon to be worth it  when it's uncertain even where to look for its target?

Edited by QuiteContrary, 17 October 2012 - 06:32 PM.

[DieChecker]

With a limited flight time, they'll have to take it out to the search site on a vehicle or trailer, rather then fly it out there.

I suppost that they'll figure out an initial search site based on concentrations of BF reports. Probably not the best way to decide where to search, but IMHO, as good as any other for finding BF.

[QuiteContrary]

This is a quote from Rafterman in the thread "Hunting Bigfoot":

"My recommendation would be to find a river/stream in an area where sightings have happened and spend a lot of time in a kayak.

Bigfoot's gotta drink, right?  And the kayak is a super stealthy platform ideal for such surveillance.  I'm constantly coming up on animals in mine and they don't even know you're there until you're right on top of them - no bigfoots yet, but I'm always looking"

I think this is an excellent observation. A silent water craft rigged with video equipment that may be equipped to not even need an RC or any pilot.  There must be stretches of water in BF "territory" good for this?

[Sakari]

QuiteContrary, on 22 October 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

This is a quote from Rafterman in the thread "Hunting Bigfoot":

"My recommendation would be to find a river/stream in an area where sightings have happened and spend a lot of time in a kayak.

Bigfoot's gotta drink, right?  And the kayak is a super stealthy platform ideal for such surveillance.  I'm constantly coming up on animals in mine and they don't even know you're there until you're right on top of them - no bigfoots yet, but I'm always looking"

I think this is an excellent observation. A silent water craft rigged with video equipment that may be equipped to not even need an RC or any pilot.  There must be stretches of water in BF "territory" good for this?

Trail cams next to creeks and rivers would be easier    ( and are there now from hunters )

[QuiteContrary]

Sakari, on 23 October 2012 - 12:18 AM, said:

Trail cams next to creeks and rivers would be easier    ( and are there now from hunters )

I'm wondering if boat mounted could offer a wider view and uninterrupted view over a longer length of a waterway. Would checking one boat's footage be easier than several dozen trail cams?
It doesn't seem trail cams are stopping projects like Dr. Meldrum's. That is why I posted it in this thread.
It was just a thought.

Edited by QuiteContrary, 23 October 2012 - 12:38 AM.

[Bavarian Raven]

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The problem in Afghanistan is not spotting targets, it's confirming the target is the one they want to kill.

I don't think they would have any problem finding heart signatures and getting good clear photos if they have the right cameras with quality optics. It's just like anything else...it comes down to how much money you can throw at it.

You are right! My bad. i was talking with my friend who is in the army, and he says that thermo cameras aren't all what they are cracked up to be though. That dense canopies and thick tree trunks can block the heat signature. Can anyone else confirm this? I am now curious...

[Sakari]

I guess maybe Meldrum is not going to show up.....I am going to copy paste the emails to and from him, and will remind him after posting......These are in reverse order of conversation.



Sorry if I took the scam remark out of temporal context. My quick skim gave much more of an impression of armchair sniping, of which I get plenty already. Hence my hesitancy. I will be happy to answer questions and welcome constructive suggestions. I am leaving town for the coming week and will not have much time to jump in right away.

Jeff

On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Robert Lester <GoDucks@frontier.com> wrote:

I was thinking it may be a scam. You know as well as I do there are a lot of them. Until you replied, I was still thinking that it may be one. I was actually very glad to see a reputable person is involved. I take offense that you do not see any “ knowledgable “ conversations going on.Let me just paste how I asked William to join, maybe it will be more inviting. I sure hope it is. Skeptics or not, any of us would love to see something actually come out of this project. I would love to be able to say “ I was wrong “.


Invite to William below, I hope you would re-consider. And I appreciate you answering emails.



Hello again,
I can make a quick request. Your story has been posted on the top “ paranormal “ discussion site on the net. The site basically has discussions on anything from Bigfoot to God, and World News to Conspiracy Theories. There are a lot of very knowledgeable people in the discussions, and some smart asses also. ( as in anywhere ). Mainly, the discussions are great, and a lot comes out of them. Your story is being debated right now. Of course the “ does Bigfoot even exist “ has been mentioned, but also the details of how much money is needed, if Idaho State is really involved, if this is a scam, why not use RC drones and Blimps that are available now, with FPV capabilities, and camera also.
What I am hoping, is if you can get involved in the discussion, and be involved in the debate. Myself, I live in the Pacific Northwest, hunt it, fish it, know many people in the lumber industry, and Fish and Wildlife. I would love to be involved, although I need you to know I am not a “ believer “ in a large primate living in the US or Canada. The discussions though I enjoy very much. Please take a look, and hopefully get involved in this discussion, don’t let the one liner smart asses get to you, if any show up. A lot of us would love to eat crow on this, and there are a lot of people that believe also. I have nothing to do with the site, other then a member, and the site makes no money as far as I know. I have had quite a few people join in on discussions that involved them, one example is if you saw “ The Demon Exorcist “ on Animal Planet. I was able to get the woman that was the “ victim “ on the show involved to tell her story, and give her evidence.
If anything, it can be educational to everyone, and can also be free PR for your goal. Below is the link to the topic, I hope you can get involved and fill in some details, and answer a lot of questions. Would be greatlly appreciated.
http://www.unexplain...pic=235757&st=0
Thank you,
Robert Lester












From: D Meldrum
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 1:35 PM


To: Robert Lester
Subject: Re: clarification



Please don't compare me to Biscardi -- this is why I have little if any motivation to have a conversation on your forum. I glanced through your posts and those of others and I see little evidence of a "knowledgable" conversation taking place. You have already stated that you think the whole thing is a scam. So to what end a conversation on a public forum with you?




On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Robert Lester <GoDucks@frontier.com> wrote:

Nothing professional, but a lot of interested people that have a high interest in this topic. Both skeptical and “ believers “. Not a bunch of whack jobs, or kids, but adults that discuss these types of things. I live in the Pacific Northwest and hunt, fish, etc. here and I have a high interest in discussing it. I get it though, if no money involved, or high publicity, not time for it. Biscardi is just like that also. I was hoping either you or William would take a bit of time and answer a few questions. There are some very knowledgeable people there, and good people also. Hell, never know, maybe even people with money.

Thanks for answering anyway,

Robert Lester








From: D Meldrum
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:59 AM


To: Robert Lester
Subject: Re: clarification



If you have a professional interest in discussing the details of the project I will be happy to talk to you in person.


On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Robert Lester <GoDucks@frontier.com> wrote:

Thank You Jeff,

If you have time, I have asked William also, to answer some questions, or get involved on a discussion about this on a very popular site. It would be nice to have you involved if you have time.

Thank You,

Robert Lester

Here is the link.

http://www.unexplain...pic=235757&st=0











From: D Meldrum
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 7:14 AM
To: Robert Lester
Subject: Re: clarification



Yes, I am involved. I will be leading the scientific facet, with William and Jason on the technical arrangements. The University has approved the proposal and the ISU Foundation will be handling the private donations.

Jeff


On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Robert Lester <GoDucks@frontier.com> wrote:

Hello Jeff,

I am in a debate of sorts, and would like to have you confirm or deny that you are involved in a Bigfoot project, “ The Falcon Project “?

For someone to be asking for donations, I would like to see something more substantial that this is legitimate, and you have something to do with it also.


“ The research is to be coordinated through Idaho State University, with Dr. Jeff Meldrum, professor of anatomy & anthropology, acting as principal investigator. “

http://www.pr.com/press-release/446674


Thank you, I will await your reply before I make any decisions.

Robert

[Jeff Meldrum]

Hello all. I have accepted Robert's invitation to participate in some discussion of the Falcon Project and matters relating to the investigation of the sasquatch question. However, I am on my way out the door after this brief intrroduction and won't be responding until tomorrow. Have a good evening!

Jeff

[Sakari]

Jeff Meldrum, on 02 November 2012 - 12:01 AM, said:

Hello all. I have accepted Robert's invitation to participate in some discussion of the Falcon Project and matters relating to the investigation of the sasquatch question. However, I am on my way out the door after this brief intrroduction and won't be responding until tomorrow. Have a good evening!

Jeff

Jeff,

Thanks, appreciate it...Before I go off on more, can you please reply to my last email and confirm this is you.....Forums like this, and especially with me replying you would be here, I would like to confirm to everyone it is.

It has happened before, someone will pose as someone else......

Just a quick reply,  ( from the email I just sent a hour ago ) or so and I will know I am not wasting my time, and others also.....THANKS!!!!



Edit to add : Not to mention, if someone is posing as you, that would really be wrong, and against the rules.

Edited by Sakari, 02 November 2012 - 12:52 AM.