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Curiosity rover finds ‘flower’ on mars


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Posted 08 January 2013 - 07:33 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 08 January 2013 - 07:28 AM, said:

What I do not get is there is a lab on board Curiosity - SAM. Can we not scoop it up and have a good look at it? Vaporise it and see what happens maybe? (BREAKING NEWS New volatile substance found on Mars. Curiosity mission suddenly over)

What I find most interesting is that it is the second anomaly in that very area.

You know what they say! Curiosity killed the cat!

What the hell the cat was doing on Mars in the first place I have no idea...................... :unsure2:

But I agree. It does look very geological in nature. More like a polished and perhaps metallic surface.

I don't know how much success they would have trying to get a scoop out of stone, I thought their mechanism for gathering testable material was more in the order of obtaining 'soil'? I don't know the full load out of the devices on board Curiosity though, they might have something that could do the trick. It would definitely be interesting if they could manage it though. :tu:

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 08:32 AM

Don't they have a Laser that they can blast at things?

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 09:15 AM

I don't know what it is, just going by the picture, although where there's water there's almost certainly life in some form, even in "extreme" environments.  

Of course, I'm the first to say that there are all kinds of "anomalies" out there in space, and on this planet as well, and I have good reason to be skeptical of all official explanations of these matters.


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Posted 08 January 2013 - 11:05 AM

It looks a lot like sand stone of which there is an abundance where I live

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" Sandstone is a clastic sedimentary rock made up mainly of sand-size (1/16 to 2 millimeter diameter) weathering debris. Environments where large amounts of sand can accumulate include beaches, deserts, flood plains and deltas"

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:14 PM

View PostPhoenixBird88, on 06 January 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

I see nothing interesting. I just looks like a crystal formation peaking out of that bed of rock. Its crazy the things people "see" in these Mars pics.

It looks like a kalinite crystal.


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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:20 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 08 January 2013 - 12:19 AM, said:

I believe life may have started there and seeded earth, there is the Mars rock found with organisms,even though there is a debate.  Mars has the largest volcano in our solar system,it may have exploded ending life`s bacteria before it got started.  



http://spider.seds.o.../marsrocks.html

You've said that before, but if anything ended life on Mars in a catastrophic way (if that's how it happened) then it must have been an impact or a multiple impact, and sent bolides into space.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:21 PM

View PostLord Vetinari, on 08 January 2013 - 08:32 AM, said:

Don't they have a Laser that they can blast at things?

Yeah, but those damn Martians shoot back !!


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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:28 PM

And as always there are those who are convinced NASA is holding back information, and that something truly mysterious is going they refuse to tell us.

It's like a hypochondriac going to an appointment with his general practitioner to hear the results of some tests, and then the GP tells him, "It's not clear. We should do some more tests". The hypochodric will think, "OMG, I've got cancer but he won't tell me !!"


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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:07 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 08 January 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:

You've said that before, but if anything ended life on Mars in a catastrophic way (if that's how it happened) then it must have been an impact or a multiple impact, and sent bolides into space.

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Could`nt a Volcano of that power send rocks into space?


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Posted 08 January 2013 - 01:34 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 08 January 2013 - 01:07 PM, said:

Could`nt a Volcano of that power send rocks into space?

That's what's being suggested here:

The craters are notable for being two of several suspected source areas for shergottites, the most abundant class of Martian meteorites.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Olympus_Mons

But Olympus Mons is a shield volcano, like the Hawaiian volcanoes, and as far as I know they don't erupt in a violent way like a Pinatubo, Tambora, Toba, Krakatoa, Thera and so on. That's also the reason they can grow so large.

And the question was whether it could have ended life on Mars. If that was true, we would have a lot of troubles here on Earth. It's not a formation like the Deccan Traps that must have wiped off the dinosaurs and much else (as is now also thought, instead of 'just' the Chicxulub impact).

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Edited by Abramelin, 08 January 2013 - 01:42 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2013 - 02:23 PM

Looks to me like there are other pieces scattered around in the pic. I would haft to say it's some sort of rock.

Would'nt you just love to see a lizzard poking it's head out of one of those cracks.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 03:06 PM

View Postseeder, on 06 January 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:



Yeh but bear in mind NASA didn't call it a flower...it was someone at ATS according to the story.  but if you see the full sized raw image here

http://mars.jpl.nasa...1000E1_DXXX.jpg

and do a diagonal to the top right corner at full zoom, it looks like there is another 'bit', so most likely just something crystalline in the rock...

seriously tho - what does anyone expect to see? Daffodils?

Thanks I couldn't zoom in on the other one. It sure isnt a flower but cool regardless.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 03:20 PM

... could be Mica, Quartzite, Calcite, Andesite  etc etc Would be interesting for Curiosity to perform a more detailed analysis, but there are probably other Mission Priorities ahead in the queue


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Posted 08 January 2013 - 05:35 PM

View Postmfrmboy, on 08 January 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

Looks to me like there are other pieces scattered around in the pic. I would haft to say it's some sort of rock.

Would'nt you just love to see a lizzard poking it's head out of one of those cracks.

I expect, as on earth, the movement of the rover and noise etc will scare any living creatures away..if there was any to start with that is!!

Im really quite optimistic/hopeful that this year, 'something' will be found on Mars thats really newsworthy...and not just water or other kinds of liquid either... dont ask me why... I just feel that with the rover being the hell of a machine that it is...and all its gadgets... somethings gotta be found and revealed..

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:49 PM

View PostLord Vetinari, on 08 January 2013 - 08:32 AM, said:

Don't they have a Laser that they can blast at things?

Indeed it can, from Wiki


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The general sample analysis strategy begins with high resolution cameras to look for features of interest. If a particular surface is of interest, Curiosity can vaporize a small portion of it with an infrared laser and examine the resulting spectra signature to query the rock's elemental composition.


I figure the same, we could try to vaporise it, but as I said, if it is a new substance, and it is volatile, we might see a quick end to the mission LOL.

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