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[RoadMaster04]

Sakari, on 25 March 2012 - 05:34 AM, said:

I do not hate cowboy.....

The chances of taking a picture of a Ghost Bird, a Grey Alien, Jesus, and Bigfoot drinking water........Sorry man.

The bone art is cool, and the Moth.

Maybe I should not say a troll, I just have a very hard time believing everything you are saying, after reading your BIO, and other posts.

It looks like you are seeking attention is all.

just want to show what I see, through my eyes. my life is hard but I guess its cool from an average life, all are parts of my life there is no fakeing what this is. G'nite Brother, no hard fealing from me at all, Cowboy.

[RoadMaster04]

and then, on 25 March 2012 - 05:38 AM, said:

Roadmaster you are welcome here but be advised that there are many here who consider themselves experts in lots of areas.  And many of them actually seem to be experts.  So the level of proof for a presentation is a little higher than just saying "trust me it's real".  That said, UM is a good place to learn and have a few laughs.  Welcome!

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[DKO]

As soon as I saw the title of this thread I was thinking "Here we go again". Then to see a photo of a polaroid of a questionable animal my feeling was confirmed.

Its funny how the ground breaking 'evidence' always appears on a forum instead of the news.

And your alien picture you took aswell is nice, how did you and your neighbour get so close to these things?

[Eldorado]

Is this the new "midget, anorexic bigfoot"?  (joking)

If I squint, it looks like some small critter havin a drink.  I can buy the 8am time though, with it being November.

Only my opinion of course.

Edited by Eldorado, 25 March 2012 - 06:30 AM.

[Timonthy]

RoadMaster04, on 25 March 2012 - 05:36 AM, said:

going to bed brother, yes there is more I will tell & show what I can, Cowboy.

Sweet dreams! Will look forward to further evidence.

[RoadMaster04]

DKO, on 25 March 2012 - 05:53 AM, said:

As soon as I saw the title of this thread I was thinking "Here we go again". Then to see a photo of a polaroid of a questionable animal my feeling was confirmed.

Its funny how the ground breaking 'evidence' always appears on a forum instead of the news.

And your alien picture you took aswell is nice, how did you and your neighbour get so close to these things?

I agree I want a better shot I just got a Canon T2i with 4 lens with it, This is a Animal reservation that joins my land, I saw something in the woods so I took a photo of it thats when I saw it looked like a gray it was gone like a flash, I'm not afraid of things but this set me to wandering how many times have they been here?

Edited by RoadMaster04, 25 March 2012 - 12:49 PM.

[RoadMaster04]

Eldorado, on 25 March 2012 - 06:11 AM, said:

Is this the new "midget, anorexic bigfoot"?  (joking)

If I squint, it looks like some small critter havin a drink.  I can buy the 8am time though, with it being November.

Only my opinion of course.

November sunrise is later & the day is shorter, thank you for your imput, Cowboy.

[ThePhantomFlanFlinger]

Your photos on your Myspace account are a heck of a lot better than Bigfoot....you should maybe give your friend lessons.Are you really a Technical Illustration Artist ? ...not picking at you btw....they are genuinely good photos..

Edited by BrianPotter, 25 March 2012 - 01:48 PM.

[Rafterman]

A few red flags from my perspective:

1.  Location

According to the Cross Creeks National Wildlife Refuge brochure(http://www.fws.gov/s...acts/crkcon.pdf) has approximately 45,0000 visitors annually and is open a large portion of the year for sport fishing and hunting.  It is also a resting place along the migratory flyway for thousands of birds and is loaded with birders year round - you know, folks who spend a lot of time in the woods and tend to have very expensive high quality cameras and optics with them.  In other words, this isn't some out of the way location that is infrequently visited by man.

If bigfoot lived in this area, there would be many more well documented encounters over the 20 years since that photo was taken.

2.  The Photo

Polaroid instant cameras were primarily designed as a snapshot camera.  In most cases 15-20 feet was about the maximum range when taking a photo of a subject - this is especially true when using a flash.  There was a telephoto add-on, but it was pretty rare and not that effective.  What I'm getting at is that your buddy had to be EXTREMELY close to this bigfoot to take this photograph.  I would certainly like to hear his own first hand account of the encounter, why there were no other photos, what did the bigfoot do after he took the photo, etc.

3.  Juvenile Bigfoot

I'm finding more and more that "it's a juvenile" or "it's a young one" seems to be a common explanation in the bigfoot hunting realm - just watch our friends over at the BFRO.  My biggest problem with this is that to have juveniles, there definitely would need to be a breeding population in the general area.  Not to mention, if you look at other animals in nature, if a juvenile or young one is in the area, you can bet that mamma isn't too far away.

Now, the other issue with the claims of juvenile bigfoots - perhaps the reason that this explanation shows up so frequently is that there simply isn't a 9-12 foot ape-like beast roaming the woods of North America and that what we're actually seeing are normal sized humans hoaxing folks or that normal sized humans are simply being misidentified by witnesses.
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As for my take on this photo, I don't find it credible at all - for the reasons mentioned above.  In addition, it simply looks like someone took a photo of some kind of ape at a zoo and is trying to pass it off as a bigfoot photo.

[Archimedes]

My first thought seeing those long hairy skinny arms is that it looks like a chimp or orangutan drinking water by a lake.




RoadMaster, don't take anything anyone says here personally.  The fact is that sometimes fakes, hoaxes, and genuine pictures being misinterpreted as something else etc. gets posted on this website and thus many members reasonably demand a high standard of evidence before accepting claims like this.

Now, I'm not saying this is actually a fake or a hoax, but you are mistaken if you think it would be hard to fake a Polaroid.  First of all, we don't have a Polaroid, we have a photo of a Polaroid posted on the Internet.  If I wanted to fake a photo as being from a Polaroid, I'd print the picture I wanted to convince was from a Polaroid on regular A4 photo paper at the same size as a Polaroid picture, crop it down to make it look like a Polaroid picture and write in a fake description and date on the bottom, then take a photo of the "Polaroid" and post it on the Internet.  Hey presto, something that looks like a polaroid photo!   With a bit of photoshopping beforehand, you can blur the pic, play around with the saturation, color balance, contrast, etc.  to make it look like an old pic from a polaroid.  Heck, there's phone apps that will do that automatically for you.

Again, I'm not saying that you have done this, just that it's not impossible as you claimed, thus it's actually hard to know without any additional evidence whether or not this is a bona fide polaroid pic from 1993 taken in your neck of the woods or a hoax generated from a pic of a chimp drinking by a river being touted as genuine.

Edited by Archimedes, 25 March 2012 - 03:02 PM.

[RoadMaster04]

BrianPotter, on 25 March 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

Your photos on your Myspace account are a heck of a lot better than Bigfoot....you should maybe give your friend lessons.Are you really a Technical Illustration Artist ? ...not picking at you btw....they are genuinely good photos..

Thank you very much, Roscoe is very old now I help him get around when he comes here to his Lake home, I am very ready to capture the creature with every posible way to get a true cleer Photo, Most of my photos on Myspace are from earlyer years, I only hope to improve on on the works & have done do date, Cowboy T.

[RoadMaster04]

Archimedes, on 25 March 2012 - 02:57 PM, said:

My first thought seeing those long hairy skinny arms is that it looks like a chimp or orangutan drinking water by a lake.




RoadMaster, don't take anything anyone says here personally.  The fact is that sometimes fakes, hoaxes, and genuine pictures being misinterpreted as something else etc. gets posted on this website and thus many members reasonably demand a high standard of evidence before accepting claims like this.

Now, I'm not saying this is actually a fake or a hoax, but you are mistaken if you think it would be hard to fake a Polaroid.  First of all, we don't have a Polaroid, we have a photo of a Polaroid posted on the Internet.  If I wanted to fake a photo as being from a Polaroid, I'd print the picture I wanted to convince was from a Polaroid on regular A4 photo paper at the same size as a Polaroid picture, crop it down to make it look like a Polaroid picture and write in a fake description and date on the bottom, then take a photo of the "Polaroid" and post it on the Internet.  Hey presto, something that looks like a polaroid photo!   With a bit of photoshopping beforehand, you can blur the pic, play around with the saturation, color balance, contrast, etc.  to make it look like an old pic from a polaroid.  Heck, there's phone apps that will do that automatically for you.

Again, I'm not saying that you have done this, just that it's not impossible as you claimed, thus it's actually hard to know without any additional evidence whether or not this is a bona fide polaroid pic from 1993 taken in your neck of the woods or a hoax generated from a pic of a chimp drinking by a river being touted as genuine.

Very good points, I have access to the Polorid pic, yet I've not ask him if he still has the Camrea I will have him bring it and the pic & take a pic of him holding them, I was Stuned to see & hold the pic, it won't do any good for me to fake this I only wan't to show it was here & I think I know why it is coming here, Great Shot of the O-Tang, I can only hope to get a shot this good of the creature, Cowboy T.

[msmike1]

In November the sunrise would be earlier, not later. Remember, fall backward and spring forward. Anyway, I find it pretty hard to believe a man that has no running water and still uses an outhouse while living in the deepest darkest, have to pipe the sunshine areas of TN has an internet connection and expensive camera equipment. I live in the freakin boonies my friend in south Mississippi, but even I have running water. I hear its pretty common these days.

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, well then its most likely a duck. That picture is of a chimp drinking water at a zoo of some sort. To take that picture with a polaroid camera you would have to be in very close proximity to it. Also I find it odd that this is the only picture. I am not calling you a hoaxer, seeing as it is your friends photo, and if you believe what he told you thats all fine and dandy. I am telling you that he lied to you.

Mike

[ThePhantomFlanFlinger]

RoadMaster04, on 25 March 2012 - 03:31 PM, said:

Thank you very much, Roscoe is very old now I help him get around when he comes here to his Lake home, I am very ready to capture the creature with every posible way to get a true cleer Photo, Most of my photos on Myspace are from earlyer years, I only hope to improve on on the works & have done do date, Cowboy T.

Be hard to improve them...they were excellent...i wasnt stalking btw...just noticed the name on the photo and googled it....good luck improving on them..
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[RoadMaster04]

msmike1, on 25 March 2012 - 04:10 PM, said:

In November the sunrise would be earlier, not later. Remember, fall backward and spring forward. Anyway, I find it pretty hard to believe a man that has no running water and still uses an outhouse while living in the deepest darkest, have to pipe the sunshine areas of TN has an internet connection and expensive camera equipment. I live in the freakin boonies my friend in south Mississippi, but even I have running water. I hear its pretty common these days.

If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, well then its most likely a duck. That picture is of a chimp drinking water at a zoo of some sort. To take that picture with a polaroid camera you would have to be in very close proximity to it. Also I find it odd that this is the only picture. I am not calling you a hoaxer, seeing as it is your friends photo, and if you believe what he told you thats all fine and dandy. I am telling you that he lied to you.

Mike

I can care less what you think!!! I live my life (You Live Yours) Life is hard but I get bye te best way I can, It's none of your BeesWax where or how I get my things, I hope to do better someday, Yet this shot is real I went to the place where he took the shot yesterday, he was in a boat fishing when the creature come out to the water to drink, your nothing but a NEYSAYER, Oh there are no Chimps here & the Legs are way to long to be a chimp, Get a clue!!!!!

Edited by RoadMaster04, 25 March 2012 - 04:21 PM.