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#676    Professor T

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:20 AM

I can sure relate to the frustrating period.
I had a wild ride with dreams after dreams after dreams then... nothing... it's taken me about 2-3 weeks to get back to remembering them daily.. I think this happened because I took it for granted and forgot that the first thoughts I needed to think when I woke was "what was I dreaming" which I guess is my own minds personal version of intention to remember. Making progress though. Dreaming about having dreams now, lol, dreams within dreams.. Meditation results have picked up too..

Dumb question though..
If want or need or desire are different forces to Intention, then isn't intention just a more subtile push towards an action? Err, I guess I'm just wondering what is the strength of intention over wants or needs or desires.. because If intention is subtle, then I've been pushing way to hard, jumping over the mark instead of on it... & are want, need and desire just an ego push..


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Posted 13 November 2012 - 12:58 AM

Don't forget also that there are external factors as well which can affect everyone either globally or locally when it comes to astral dreaming / projecting. Their are conditions which affect things. The past month or so has been weird full stop. It's been a mixed bag of rapid activity and then periods of nothing happening at all. I've been in a frustrating period of silly dreaming/down time in my sleep time, infact my sleeping has been really bad/broken lately, spells of insomnia, but having more activity in my woken states and meditations than before. So either way it finds away out.

Wants and desires are an ego push, they are attachments, attached emotions to things. Intention is like 'the force' or creative energy of will. Or the blueprint or the direction for the force. It is more related to creation, action and direction of energy. That is why ritual and magic works and exists. It is a framework for which to build and execute intention. The best thing anyone can do really is develop their own method, because that is to create something in the way your consciousness works, and self apply in a form that is seamless in executing intention. And it's liekly you are trying to hard and over doing it. it's not that you don't want to care about it, but try detaching from the desire. Instead focus on the creative part of it.

Someone else posted about how they would practise to perfection. Again perfection is a ego drive/push because perfection doesn't exist, look at the movie Tron legacy. The guy creates clu for the role of perfection and later learns he really manifested a ego nightmare. Perfection led to destruction, it turned on itself because it could never be possible to attain or balance. What the creator thought was beautiful in perfection was a fallacy/ illusion and infact what was beautiful all along was just in being allowed to be.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:19 AM

Ah-ha...
I thought the external factors of high/low energy only effected meditations...

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:27 AM

Everything is a little bipolar at the moment, even the differences between night and day consciousness. But the thing i have noticed is that no pattern is ever a set routine, things are changing all the time and energy currents shift all the time too. Another thing to try is to change the times of your projections and meditations, that is if you having naps to try and project, don't risk messing your sleep cycle up.

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:49 AM

Thanks..
I actually started messing up my sleep cycle to try and get back on track, setting alarm for 3am, 1am, that kind of thing. And thought that it may have helped get back on track.. Also got some dream insight into doing that about 1 week ago, from a dream that I vaguely remembered said something about there being 3 different types of sleeping? Very odd, but I went about 3 weeks with virtually nothing, and only vague memories of dreaming within dreams.. It's only in the last week things have come right, since messing with my sleep pattern..


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Posted 13 November 2012 - 01:36 PM

So when I meditate or try to AP, I should not focus on projecting or energy work. I should just release my body and thoughts and let my consciousness do the work? Basically let my consciousness travel were it wants to go?

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 03:57 PM

View Postconstantine_337, on 13 November 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

So when I meditate or try to AP, I should not focus on projecting or energy work. I should just release my body and thoughts and let my consciousness do the work? Basically let my consciousness travel were it wants to go?
No.., those things are fine. Release your desire. Do it for the sake of doing it without desire. Practice for the goal not the means. If your goal to reach Oobe is more spiritual knowledge then keep your mind tuned into being spiritual as you train.

I have always had an interest in healing. One of the reasons I continue to practice is to find more ways to help others. The more I learn about myself the more armed I am for other people. this is my entire intent.  Never was it just about the experience itself. Originally I was not even trying to ap but was taking the steps anyway.

It's like taking a hike, but you are watching your feat.... What use is the hike?



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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:53 PM

View PostSeeker79, on 13 November 2012 - 03:57 PM, said:

No.., those things are fine. Release your desire. Do it for the sake of doing it without desire. Practice for the goal not the means. If your goal to reach Oobe is more spiritual knowledge then keep your mind tuned into being spiritual as you train.

Thank you Seeker79 for this advice. I meditated a few times yesterday and let go of my desires. I did not project but I was tapped in to my spirit. The only way I can explain it is a feeling of serenity and peace. Im sure if I use your advice more in the future I will project when its time. Thank you again, and Blu3 3n3rgy and anyone else for the vast knowledge and help. :nw:

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 04:24 AM

I decided to begin my Astral Projection training :tsu: . I have been reading some of the thread this topic has interested me for a time now. I will keep everyone here updated weekly. Wish me luck :tu:

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 04:27 AM

All the best :tu:

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Posted 28 November 2012 - 04:23 AM

Sleep paralysis is the fastest road to OBEs and Astral Travel (whatever you choose to call it). Separate during the vibrational stage of SP.

Also, a useful tip I learned:

Jutting your jaw outward during an SP episode will greatly strengthen the sleep paralysis. This has been helpful for me.





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Posted 30 November 2012 - 01:08 AM

View PostProfessor T, on 13 November 2012 - 12:20 AM, said:

I can sure relate to the frustrating period.
I had a wild ride with dreams after dreams after dreams then... nothing... it's taken me about 2-3 weeks to get back to remembering them daily.. I think this happened because I took it for granted and forgot that the first thoughts I needed to think when I woke was "what was I dreaming" which I guess is my own minds personal version of intention to remember. Making progress though. Dreaming about having dreams now, lol, dreams within dreams.. Meditation results have picked up too..


This is how its been for me, ever since i started meditating, practicing trying to AP and learned of all this stuff ive been having wild dreams. Every night.  Whereas before that i rarely had any i remembered.

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 12:20 PM

Week 1:
I started meditating. Have not had anything out of the ordinary happen but it is my first week so i didnt really think anything would. Just been trying to meditate for 20 minutes a day. It is pretty relaxing atleast. Which is nice because i work full time and go to college. But plan on bumping it up to 30 minutes this week :P

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Posted 30 November 2012 - 07:44 PM

damn, its demoralising that i keep failing. I tried all sorts of method, had intense vibrations once when i tried to sleep again after a nap but i got scared/excited and it all ended within few secs.
a few times i was aware when dreaming aka lucid dreaming, but i thought i was having an OBE. I keep having a feeling being pulled back to the body though. I only experienced 2 times SP though when young. The pre sleep method work better for me, i just fall back asleep in the indirect method. Is being tired impt for the pre sleep method?


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Posted 30 November 2012 - 10:06 PM

View Postnotyalcmas93, on 30 November 2012 - 01:08 AM, said:

This is how its been for me, ever since i started meditating, practicing trying to AP and learned of all this stuff ive been having wild dreams. Every night.  Whereas before that i rarely had any i remembered.
I've found that the more you question reality and what you think you know the more surprises reality feeds back to us.. I'm learning more about myself now, and my dreams are back and as interesting as ever, though changing..

View Postmichaelpast, on 30 November 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

damn, its demoralising that i keep failing. I tried all sorts of method, had intense vibrations once when i tried to sleep again after a nap but i got scared/excited and it all ended within few secs.
a few times i was aware when dreaming aka lucid dreaming, but i thought i was having an OBE. I keep having a feeling being pulled back to the body though. I only experienced 2 times SP though when young. The pre sleep method work better for me, i just fall back asleep in the indirect method. Is being tired impt for the pre sleep method?
I've never been able to get back to that same really insense kundalini-like experience I had about six months ago, & it seems that everyone else who joined these threads about the same time or later are making more progress than me. It doesn't have to be demoralising, or scary, those feelings are our choices to make or break..







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