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#31    freetoroam

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:37 PM

View PostMoon Gazer, on 26 February 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:

In fact COWS can be quite dangerous, not only have people been seriously hurt by cows there have been people KILLED by them too!  Maybe there needs to be a cow cull too????
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I do not think the rich fox hunters are interested in having their dogs chase the cows, so this will never happen.

Edited by freetoroam, 26 February 2013 - 03:40 PM.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:46 PM

View PostMoon Gazer, on 26 February 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:


In fact COWS can be quite dangerous, not only have people been seriously hurt by cows there have been people KILLED by them too!  Maybe there needs to be a cow cull too????

Its not unusual people to be likked by cows, in recent years one summer alone 4/5 people were killed by them.

Home many children have been killed by family pets and compare that to how many children have been killed by fox's?

Here is a new report on other fox attacks on people: Fox attacks They dug pretty deep to come up with 4 or incidents and had to go back to 2002 to pull them out.

Urban wildlife expert John Bryant said such an attack was extremely rare. Link

"I have only ever heard of two cases in my 40 years of dealing with foxes, one of which turned out to be a German Shepherd and the other a cat," he said.

Fox hunting is barabaric, it is animal cruelty at its worst, and I repeat myself whe I say this: "You can always judge the moral fibre of individuals by the way they treat animals".

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:50 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 26 February 2013 - 02:12 PM, said:

Yes, I do.  And so do many people.  That is the sensible thing to do when the populations of certain animals spirals out of control and they are causing problems with humans, such as attacking them or spreading their diseases.  I'm afraid I'm more concerned about the welfare of humans beings that I am about other animals.  The government is soon to start culling badgers in England to prevent the spread of TB.  It should also start doing something to alleviate the problem of the fox.



Attacks are becoming more common because the fox numbers in Britain are spiralling out of control due to Labour's ban on foxhunting.



So everyone who takes part in foxhunting is "pompous and rich" are they?  Yeah, alright.

I always thought that foxhunting was a way of life for many people in the country - the people who know what foxes are REALLY like, such as farmers - rather than just the "rich".

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:58 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 26 February 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

Oh how I wish we could say the same thing for humans!

Going round killing human beings is wrong, it's evil and it beggars belief that you would like it to happen.

Tell you what, if you want to start culling humans maybe you should start with your wife and kids.  And, then, when you've finished your killing spree, you should then kill yourself.


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As for the badgers, they carry bovine TB, not good for the cattle.

That's why they are about to be culled.  The cattle are our food and culling the badgers to stop the badger diseasing our food is the right thing to do.


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the destruction he has caused to the country side and to this planet,

Man hasn't caused destruction to this planet and to the countryside.  It's only the Global Warnists - who are always wrong - who belief that.

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Those rich snobs are not killing the foxes for any other reason but for sport!


So all those who take part in foxhunting are "rich snobs", are they?

It's typcial of your type to blame something which you don't agree with on "the rich".

I always thought that foxhunting was a popular sport for many country people, rich or otherwise.  Farmers who, for understandable reasons, hate the fox, love to take part in fox hunts.  I'd take part in them too, if I could, and I'm not rich.

And foxhunting is not a sport.  It's a combination of sport, wildlife management and pest control.

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foxes would not be thriving in the inner cities.

Yeah.  It's always the fault of evil humans, is it?  Cuddly little Foxy Woxy is never to blame and is always right.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:02 PM

View Postxsas, on 26 February 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

Urban wildlife expert John Bryant said such an attack was extremely rare. Link


Getting commoner and commoner, I'm afraid, since the band on foxhunting.

Thankfully, though, foxhunting won't be banned forever.  It's only a matter of time before  the ban is repealed.  Once the fox numbers continue to increase and attacks by foxes on humans also continue to increase, repealing the ban on foxhunting will seem the only sensible thing to do.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:02 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 26 February 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:

Going round killing human beings is wrong, it's evil and it beggars belief that you would like it to happen.

Tell you what, if you want to start culling humans maybe you should start with your wife and kids.  And, then, when you've finished your killing spree, you should then kill yourself.




That's why they are about to be culled.  The cattle are our food and culling the badgers to stop the badger diseasing our food is the right thing to do.




Man hasn't caused destruction to this planet and to the countryside.  It's only the Global Warnists - who are always wrong - who belief that.



So all those who take part in foxhunting are "rich snobs", are they?

It's typcial of your type to blame something which you don't agree with on "the rich".

I always thought that foxhunting was a popular sport for many country people, rich or otherwise.  Farmers who, for understandable reasons, hate the fox, love to take part in fox hunts.  I'd take part in them too, if I could, and I'm not rich.



Yeah.  It's always the fault of evil humans, is it?  Cuddly little Foxy Woxy is never to blame and is always right.

I have to say when you miss the target, you sure do it well..

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:03 PM

View PostOppono Astos, on 26 February 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:

For comparison, please post references/links to the news items for the same period where adults and children have been injured. maimed and killed by domestic pets.

When children are maimed by domestic dogs the dogs are then killed.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:08 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 26 February 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

When children are maimed by domestic dogs the dogs are then killed.

That particular dog.  Not all dogs.


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:08 PM

If you want to be kind to animals bring back fox hunting: http://www.politics....ng-back-fox-hun


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 04:10 PM

View PostMoon Gazer, on 26 February 2013 - 04:08 PM, said:

That particular dog.  Not all dogs.

And the government does try to limit the number of dangerous dogs in Britain.  Most very dangerous breeds are illegal.  We can't, however, oulaw the fox.  We can, though, reduce its numbers.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 05:57 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 26 February 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

And the government does try to limit the number of dangerous dogs in Britain.  Most very dangerous breeds are illegal.  We can't, however, oulaw the fox.  We can, though, reduce its numbers.

But to attack a whole species because of one fox incident is just crazy.  We don't ban all dogs because of a dangerous few breeds.  I guarantee you that more children have been bitten and attacked by poodles in the last 5 years than by foxes.  But we don't go out culling all poodles!!

The reason people want the ban on hunting with hounds lifted is so they can play this barbaric "sport".  The fact that one child was injured lately is just being used as a feeble reasoning behind it.  Allowing hunting with hounds will not have any great effect on urban foxes at all, and apparently these are the ones which are a danger to our kids!


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:31 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 26 February 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:

Going round killing human beings is wrong, it's evil and it beggars belief that you would like it to happen.

Tell you what, if you want to start culling humans maybe you should start with your wife and kids.  And, then, when you've finished your killing spree, you should then kill yourself.

Hahahahaha, very civilized reply!!!


That's why they are about to be culled.  The cattle are our food and culling the badgers to stop the badger diseasing our food is the right thing to do.


You need to read about it, it is not harmful to humans.

Man hasn't caused destruction to this planet and to the countryside.  It's only the Global Warnists - who are always wrong - who belief that.

This I can`t believe you have put, speechless!!!

So all those who take part in foxhunting are "rich snobs", are they?

It's typcial of your type to blame something which you don't agree with on "the rich".

And what is my type?

I always thought that foxhunting was a popular sport for many country people, rich or otherwise.  Farmers who, for understandable reasons, hate the fox, love to take part in fox hunts.  I'd take part in them too, if I could, and I'm not rich.

Well there you go, thinking!!

And foxhunting is not a sport.  It's a combination of sport, wildlife management and pest control.

It is a sport for the rich and they do it because of exactly that....its a sport!



Yeah.  It's always the fault of evil humans, is it?  Cuddly little Foxy Woxy is never to blame and is always right.

This bit I agree with you.


Edited by freetoroam, 26 February 2013 - 07:36 PM.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:41 PM

View PostMoon Gazer, on 26 February 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

But to attack a whole species because of one fox incident is just crazy.  We don't ban all dogs because of a dangerous few breeds.  I guarantee you that more children have been bitten and attacked by poodles in the last 5 years than by foxes.  But we don't go out culling all poodles!!

The reason people want the ban on hunting with hounds lifted is so they can play this barbaric "sport".  The fact that one child was injured lately is just being used as a feeble reasoning behind it.  Allowing hunting with hounds will not have any great effect on urban foxes at all, and apparently these are the ones which are a danger to our kids!
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In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:23 PM

Whats the big deal? Are foxes endangered?

What do people think that wild animals do with their lives? Sit around drinking tea and knitting? All animals that can eat meat enjoy killing, as evolution has ensured. Heck cats will tease a mouse/bird for hours while its bleeding to death slowly, but no one is trying to ban mouse/bird hunting using cats. Humans don't have to train the dogs to chase foxes, it is a natural response.

Is a pack of dogs killing a fox is different from a pack of dogs killing a wild boar? Why? Because the fox is cute? It doesn't matter how cute the animal is, a fox is a more direct threat than a wild boar (unless you live in the forrest, then it might be a tie).


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Posted 26 February 2013 - 08:29 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 26 February 2013 - 08:23 PM, said:

Whats the big deal? Are foxes endangered?

What do people think that wild animals do with their lives? Sit around drinking tea and knitting? All animals that can eat meat enjoy killing, as evolution has ensured. Heck cats will tease a mouse/bird for hours while its bleeding to death slowly, but no one is trying to ban mouse/bird hunting using cats. Humans don't have to train the dogs to chase foxes, it is a natural response.

Is a pack of dogs killing a fox is different from a pack of dogs killing a wild boar? Why? Because the fox is cute? It doesn't matter how cute the animal is, a fox is a more direct threat than a wild boar (unless you live in the forrest, then it might be a tie).
The dogs are killing the fox for the amusement of the rich man on his horse which they class as a sport. if the dogs were killings the fox because of a natural process of survival, then fine, but this is not the case.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.




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