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[spartan max2]

I how politicans are just useing this to push their agenda... Them wanting gun control isent new.

[AsteroidX]

Reminds me of a compulsive liar how they tell so many lies they start to believe there true until they cant remember which lie they told last.

[Kafkaesque]

The New Richard Nixon, on 18 December 2012 - 10:04 PM, said:

Does not bloody matter

If a man using a pistol killed more people in a school shooting, such as in VT, why aren't they banning pistols?

Nearly 170 children died in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. Hands were used to set off the bombs.

Should we ban hands as well? If you drink too much water, that can be harmful to you. Should we ban water, as well?

[supervike]

Eonwe, on 19 December 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

If a man using a pistol killed more people in a school shooting, such as in VT, why aren't they banning pistols?

Nearly 170 children died in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. Hands were used to set off the bombs.

Should we ban hands as well? If you drink too much water, that can be harmful to you. Should we ban water, as well?

That's not a good argument to 'keep' the pistols.  Maybe they should have been banned.  Because they were not banned does not necessarily mean they are safe or not the cause.

And just to clarify, of the 170 people in the Oklahoma City Bombing, 19 were children.

[Kafkaesque]

supervike, on 19 December 2012 - 01:50 AM, said:

That's not a good argument to 'keep' the pistols.  Maybe they should have been banned.  Because they were not banned does not necessarily mean they are safe or not the cause.

And just to clarify, of the 170 people in the Oklahoma City Bombing, 19 were children.

Pistols have saved many lives; that's one reason they aren't banned.

That, and millions of Americans would be royally pissed off.

Thank you for the clarification.

[Simbi Laveau]

and then, on 18 December 2012 - 11:13 PM, said:

I have read that there was no demonstrable improvement in killings with such weapons or with number of shots fired in mass attacks after the ten year ban.  If those numbers are correct then the net effect of this will be to make an 800 dollar rifle become a 2000 dollar rifle nearly overnight.  In fact if I had a couple thousand to invest I'd buy 2 today.  In 6 months I could probably triple or even quadruple the investment.  Banning high capacity magazines will have the same effect BUT in the long run their ban might actually help matters.  Making a shooter reload makes him a bit more vulnerable.

Everyone is out now,stock piling them . Some stores took them off the shelves.
The guy who owns the gun shop in Newtown CT,closed .
I think he's the only one that did it for the altruistic reasons .

[AsteroidX]

Kool Aid wasnt banned

[The New Richard Nixon]

Eonwe, on 19 December 2012 - 01:41 AM, said:

If a man using a pistol killed more people in a school shooting, such as in VT, why aren't they banning pistols?

Nearly 170 children died in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. Hands were used to set off the bombs.

Should we ban hands as well? If you drink too much water, that can be harmful to you. Should we ban water, as well?

Which is going to cause more damage? a pistol or rifles and machine guns?

[Stellar]

Some of the arguments here are interesting... But let's be realistic. If the guy is in a classroom full of people with no one there to stop him, he will be able to kill them all regardless of what kind of a weapon he has or how many times he has to reload. The only real difference the type of weapon and ammo capacity would make is in a firefight with police officers.

[ExpandMyMind]

This is nonsense. It's more of the democrats' attempts to pander to the media and public outcry by doing pretty much nothing about the overall problem. Banning types of guns is pointless. What needs to be addressed is the fact that guns are so readily accessible to almost anyone over a certain age in the U.S.. What needs to be addressed is the fact that there is a massive problem in that country with mental illness.

This plan of Obama's is like putting a band-aid on a decapitated man's neck.

[AsteroidX]

Your only option rifght now is to be heard. Let your greivances be known. And yes a multinational electronic forum is sharing a greivance. Without that we cannot puish back. BE ****IN HEARD

[freetoroam]

Hilander, on 18 December 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:

I don't think banning AW will help.  More attention to mental illness would.  This guys mom warned his babysitter not to turn his back on him even for a minute but yet she did.  If you have someone in you family that has mental illness maybe you should lock up you guns and seek help for them even if it means locking them up in a mental institution.

exactly. The signs where there for years, not just at the end, She had even taken him out of schooling, the authorites knew he was not the full shilling and also knew she had a guns around the house, the two are a recipe for disaster.

[AsteroidX]

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This is nonsense. It's more of the democrats' attempts to pander to the media and public outcry by doing pretty much nothing about the overall problem.

Yes and no. The only thing that protects your Right to Free Speech left is the  Right to bear Arms,. Im not a bot that sits here in a basement speaking on my own. I check in with people with bigger magazines then me.

Our only chance is to get heard and avoid this major catastrophe.

[AsteroidX]

@freetoroam...you guys are right but the agenda is throwing that aside. LETS AGREE WE KNOW THESE DRUGS ARE DANGEROUS. But thats niot what there gonna do today. Today my rights are gonna clipped again like a bird that cryptology.

[AsteroidX]

Have you heard noone has claimed either of the bodies the mother or the shooter. What does that say to me. Her parents are dead and makes a great Patsy.