This post of yours only shows you havent read the thread because if you had you would understand that I have not said anyway, at all, about physical shapeshifting.
As I am still trying to point out to you both now.... we are talking about OCCULTISM and how humans turn into animals using occultism.
And the definition of shapeshifting(from the occult places)is that its an astral/dreaming experience.
So 'occult' shapeshifting is what it is, in that its an astral thing, not a physical thing at all which you are mistakenly thinking.
I've read the thread and am not sure what the issue is.
Occult = hidden knowledge
Astral plane = in the mind, no evidence of it as a real place
Astral projecting = in the mind, no evidence of it ever happening
Lucid dreaming = recognizing you are in a dream state and being able to "control" that dream state/nothing magical or special, anyone can do that
I don't know what you are trying to teach or expound on with the emphasizing of "OCCULT". I am very familiar with the term.
All of what you are describing is a dream and/or fantasy. Giving it "mystical" labels doesn't make it any more real.
Like I said, not sure what the back and forth is all about, you even admit it is just something that is in a dream and not real correct?