Jump to content




Welcome to Unexplained Mysteries! Please sign in or create an account to start posting and to access a host of extra features.


* * * * - 7 votes

The Ancient Alien Theory Is True


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
10148 replies to this topic

#631    LRW

LRW

    Apparition

  • Banned
  • PipPip
  • 351 posts
  • Joined:08 Nov 2011

Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:05 PM

The ancient alien theory is not only about the idea of ancient astronauts. Yet people still conflate both issues together.

The planets, stars and constellations can also be considered as "Ancient Alien"  It would be naive to think that ancient people were not influenced by those alien planets, stars and constellations.


#632    S2F

S2F

    Bloodstained Hurricane

  • Member
  • 6,716 posts
  • Joined:22 May 2008

Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:09 PM

Let's see, for the AA hypothesis to be true we have to assume several things.

*We have to assume that an advanced alien civilization exists
*We have to assume that an advanced alien civilization could find the Earth to begin with
*We have to assume that an advanced alien civilization would have the desire and ability to travel here
*We have to assume that these aliens are benevolent
*We have to assume that they would directly interfere with ancient civilizations and assist them with building anything.
*We have to assume that the aliens would use ancient technologies or at least technologies that leave similar markings.
*We have to assume that they apparently left without a single trace of their presence left behind.
*We have to assume that modern archaeologists have it all wrong

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

For the theory of unassisted building of these structures we have to assume that ancient civilizations were smart enough to fashion tools to allow them to do so (something we actually have evidence for). Period.

For anyone that thinks that both theories have the same merit, you'd be quite wrong.

"You want to discuss plausibility then you have to accept reality." -Mattshark

"Don't argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level then beat you with experience." -Obviousman

You know... the plural of ``anecdote'' is not ``data''. Similarly, the plural of ``random fact'' is not ``mystical symbolism''. -sepulchrave


#633    Imaginarynumber1

Imaginarynumber1

    I am not an irrational number

  • Member
  • 4,828 posts
  • Joined:22 Mar 2010

Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:10 PM

View PostLRW, on 04 December 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

The ancient alien theory is not only about the idea of ancient astronauts. Yet people still conflate both issues together.

Yes it is. It's the absurd idea that ancient peoples had contact with and help building things from aliens.

Quote

The planets, stars and constellations can also be considered as "Ancient Alien"  It would be naive to think that ancient people were not influenced by those alien planets, stars and constellations.

The planets, starts and constellations can be considered planets, stars and constellations. Most ancient peoples were very good with astronomy. That is not being debated.

"A cat has nine lives. For three he plays, for three he strays, and for the last three he stays."


July 17th, 2008 (Full moon the next night)

RAPTORS! http://www.unexplain...pic=233151&st=0


#634    psyche101

psyche101

    Conspiracy Realist

  • Member
  • 31,830 posts
  • Joined:30 Nov 2005

Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:10 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 04 December 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

I cannot prove you wrong sir, and you cannot prove yourself right either, insofar as proving that this planet has never been visited by ET or that they have interacted with humans.

Yet I have proven myself right above have I not? How is that large orange switchboard going into that basement? I accomplish feats that you say are impossible. They most certainly are not.

What you are asking me to do is prove a negative - show you something that does not exist, which is proof of something that was never here. How do you propose that can be accomplished?


Not to mention by way of example, I showed you an instance where harder substances are cut with the same soft materials today. As well asa explaining for you Ed's "gravity box"

View PostBabe Ruth, on 04 December 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

That is my only point here--that the circumstantial evidence strongly suggests visitation and interaction, probably even interbreeding.

Not in the slightest. I seriously hope you are joking about interbreeding, because evidence to quash such nonsense certainly does exist in the fossil record - literally "set in stone".

Every single instance has been countered. Zoser's silly statements do not constitute a rebuttal, they display willful ignorance, no more. Have a look at them yourself, the best he can come up with is a weathered hole (which I am sure you realise give it a "finished" appearance after 2,000 years) could not possibly be done by man. Aliens must have come here and drilled holes for us. Seriously, do you really consider that a rebuttal? I think it is largely regarded as a joke. I do not think anyone other than Zoser and perhaps nopeda reslises the absuridty of the argument. It's like arguing with a 4 year old. Look here is a banana, no its not, yes it is, it came off the banana tree in the yard, see how it is yellow, peels back to show ripe flesh ready to eat? no, it's not a banana. Statues of Dorite exist with more detail than we see at Puma Punku. It is not at all impossible to work.

If you find any instances compelling, please present them for discussion. The rebuttals are sound, and informative.

View PostBabe Ruth, on 04 December 2012 - 02:33 PM, said:

Some of what I call circumstantial evidence may actually be direct evidence, and maybe that is the theme of the AA theory.  I don't know.

If there was direct evidence you and I would not be having this conversation. Every instance has been shown to be an outright lie, or greatly exaggerated. I am quite certain that several decades of research has allowed me to know. And what I know is that history is far, far too important to let some charlatan rape it sell a book or grab some ratings.

Again, I suggest your provide any examples that you consider "powerful" May I ask, what do you think of Zoser's light cutting claims? Honest opinion.

I still find the Pantheon a much more complex structure. Quite amazing really. The geometry boggles the mind.

Edited by psyche101, 04 December 2012 - 11:14 PM.

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants. - Sir Isaac Newton Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit. - Ed Stewart Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Dr Who

#635    LRW

LRW

    Apparition

  • Banned
  • PipPip
  • 351 posts
  • Joined:08 Nov 2011

Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:20 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 04 December 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

So why stack rocks for them? Still doesn't add up. Still no evidence. At all.



Because we all know how well rocks can transport someone across interstellar distances. Sorry, no. The simplest answer is that they were built buy humans, for humans.

Despite what some on here claim, we have amble evidence of how they monuments were constructed. Repeated denials and shouting "Aliens!" doesn't make it true.

You see rocks? but you foolishly miss the extreme importance of the symbols at hand.

The pyramid is a powerful spiritual symbol. Not just a stack of rocks.

The pyramid is SYMBOLIC of the shape of the human chakra. The missing capstone of the great pyramid represents the unfinished work, in other words the all-seeing eye. It was known as super conciousness in the ancient world

The pyramids served many purposes, one purpose was that of initiation and ceremonial rites. Many hieroglyphics depict the Gods turning their chakra's with a rod like instrument. Some of the Gods were latter labelled as Demons by the developers of christianity, one of which was Thoth. The pyramid was given as an energy centre to humanity. The pyramids are also known in the ancient world as the breath of life.

A stack of rocks? by gods, you are so naive.


#636    psyche101

psyche101

    Conspiracy Realist

  • Member
  • 31,830 posts
  • Joined:30 Nov 2005

Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:25 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 04 December 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

No, I'm not the tights type :no:

That is quite relieving. Although I suspect somebody is going to want them. There is one in every crowd........... :lol:

View Postsynchronomy, on 04 December 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

I would glady join your cause.  I've stated in a few of the topics here that these Las Vegas Hustlers, conmen, and conwomen make me sick.

Not much time to make a great deal of progress so far, with Christmas coming up I want to spend a bit of time drafting a good proposal. What I have learned is that the source to make my proposal to would be the AAPA.

View Postsynchronomy, on 04 December 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

I am particularly disgusted by those with distinguished credentials, such as medical doctors, lawyers, professors, and yes, the Hoagwash from librarians!
Same formula applies every time.  Build up credibility using past experience whether it be education and/or accomplishments...even if you just know someone with accomplishments like "my uncle designed the Lunar Lander" (gee, who's that?)  Then test the waters with a few "believable" cases usually consisting of the tried and tested ones, then add some "hyperdimensional" buzzwords and blend in some "newagey" stuff then moneytize the website with t-shirts and coffeemug sales, and some incomprehensible jibberish disguised as "books"....oh, and don't forget the compulsory three hour diatribe on coast to coast am.  Brag about your "contacts" in the military and black-ops circles.  And don't forget to throw in some Tesla, HAARP, and the odd reference to chemtrails.
If you think about it, many of us here could do it, I know I certainly could...but I suppose the moral values my parents taught me keep me out of it.

It is the aspect of UFOlogy that turns my stomach too. It really detracts from the pioneers like Sagan, Drake and Fermi. Today, the torch carried by Kaku and Hawking has less impact in the real world because of these snake oil salesmen and the dreams they peddle. Appeals to authority are rife, with people like Greer and Lier touting medical physician credentials as if that makes them some sort of authority. How they manage to get people to swallow this BS saddens me. What do people really think a foot doctor can tell them about Alien life?

View Postsynchronomy, on 04 December 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:

There's the formula and if you can sleep at night living a life of lies, you've got a good steady income.
To change this would require a monumental effort.  Discussion forums such as this are one of the best IMHO.

I think I could be an exception to that rule. ;) I'd like to try.
But there is still hope. Pioneers like Branson will not be hobbled, and the new Sabre engine promoted on the front page here sounds like a giant leap in technology. I remain optimistic that science will prevail and despite these lower forms of life, we will forge ahead.

LINK - SABRE (Synergistic Air-Breathing Rocket Engine  <<- This is freaking awesome.

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants. - Sir Isaac Newton Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit. - Ed Stewart Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Dr Who

#637    psyche101

psyche101

    Conspiracy Realist

  • Member
  • 31,830 posts
  • Joined:30 Nov 2005

Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:28 PM

View Postzoser, on 04 December 2012 - 07:01 PM, said:

Not quite sure what your getting at; it's the archaeologists that are making that ridiculous claim about the bow, sand and tube.  To those with an ounce of reasoning the way they did it must have employed some advanced method such as light or sound.   Let's be clear; there is no other conventional explanation on the table other than the crazy bow and sand idea and that's what this debate is all about.


It remains astounding that you would apply the word "ridiculous" to someone other than yourself when making the above statement.

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants. - Sir Isaac Newton Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit. - Ed Stewart Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Dr Who

#638    LRW

LRW

    Apparition

  • Banned
  • PipPip
  • 351 posts
  • Joined:08 Nov 2011

Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:32 PM

Some people are unaware that the ancients tried to reach GOD-HEAD and super conciousness, and that the great pyramid was symbolic of those goals. No wonder the current state of humanity is a mess. Step forward christianity and egyptology, step forward degeneration, step forward garbage for the masses. Lovely just lovely.  

Posted Image


#639    psyche101

psyche101

    Conspiracy Realist

  • Member
  • 31,830 posts
  • Joined:30 Nov 2005

Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:42 PM

View Postzoser, on 04 December 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

No they haven't; if you think they have could you quote it please.  That hole you showed me was as rough as a rats tail.  Nothing whatsoever like the perfect holes seen in South America and Egypt.


That is your opinion, not the case.

Do you know what happens to even granite if you leave it exposed to the elements for 2,000 years?

How did you not understand melting copper into sheets, rolling a round clay model, letting it dry, and using it as the mould for the pipe? Too simple for you? Do you realise that by the Puma Punku was constructed that we had already been using copper for about 3,000 years+??






Quote

istorical perspective

Copper tubes for conveying water were first used about the year 2750 BC. There is an example in the Berlin State Museum taken from the Temple of King Sa-Hu-Re at Abusir in Egypt



LINK

Quote

Age

Determining the age of the Pumapunku complex has been a focus of researchers since the discovery of the Tiwanaku site. As noted by Andean specialist, Binghamton University Anthropology professor W. H. Isbell,[2] a radiocarbon date was obtained by Vranich[3] from organic material from lowermost and oldest layer of mound-fill forming the Pumapunku. This layer was deposited during the first of three construction epochs and dates the initial construction of the Pumapunku at 1510 ±25 B.P. C14 (AD 440; calibrated, AD 536–600).



Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants. - Sir Isaac Newton Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit. - Ed Stewart Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Dr Who

#640    DingoLingo

DingoLingo

    Psychic Spy

  • Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,103 posts
  • Joined:05 Jul 2011

Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:52 PM

I look forward to the day when aliens do finally land..

and the AA crowd rush forth and ask.. Why what are the pyramids for.. how did you move the stones.. etc

and the aliens are going to say

'Human.. WTF are you talking about.. we just got here.. do you realise that you are the in the backwash of the galaxy.. it was just by chance we picked up a radio signal and had nothing better to do then to check it out'


#641    theSOURCE

theSOURCE

    Alien Abducter

  • Member
  • 4,450 posts
  • Joined:23 Sep 2003

Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:56 PM

Since the Parthenon and Pumapunku were mentioned, here's an excerpt that might be of interest.

We do not claim to know how the heavy lifting and exquisite masonry was accomplished at Pumapunku, but that's a far cry from saying we believe the Tiwanaku were incapable of it. We simply don't have a record of what tools and techniques they used. All around the world are examples of stonemasonry from the period that is equally impressive. The Greek Parthenon, for example, was built a thousand years before Pumapunku, and yet nobody invokes aliens as the only explanation for its great beauty and decorative detailing that more than rivals Pumapunku's angles and cuts. At about the same time, the Persians constructed Persepolis with its superlative Palace of Darius, featuring details that are highly comparable to Pumapunku. Stonemasons in India cut the Udayagiri Caves with megalithic doorways that are very similar to those in Pumapunku. The Tiwanaku did magnificent work, but by no means was it inexplicably superior to what can be found throughout the ancient world. It is unnecessary to invoke aliens to explain the structures.

LINK


I hope I did this right.

Edited by theSOURCE, 04 December 2012 - 11:59 PM.


#642    Sir Wearer of Hats

Sir Wearer of Hats

    SCIENCE!

  • Member
  • 10,768 posts
  • Joined:08 Nov 2008

Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:08 AM

View PostLRW, on 04 December 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

If people look to the stars and find inspiration to mimic stars and constellations in their buildings, then that is direct evidence of ancient people being influenced by extraterrestrial activity.
Extraterrestrial definition: Originating, located, or occurring outside Earth or its atmosphere.
The ancients regarded planets as being real beings and have attributed human  chractertistics to them in their artwork depictions.

They were worshipping extraterrestrial activity, to the ancients those planets and stars must have been very real-life beings with personality. The stars and planets to the ancients were even represented in human form and animal form. Sun goddess, Moon Gods etc. The sun certainly gave life to their crops, it was most certainly glorified as being a life-giver. To the ancients it was a great friend. The sun is an alien, the ancient alien theory is real. Definition of Alien: A creature from outer space: Who is to say that the ancients did not regard the sun as being its own unique creature that brought them life and inspiration?


I can't help but feel that this is an attempt to play a game of linguistic tango with me, "of course they were talking about aliens, look here's a valid definition of aliens that covers exactly what we're talking about" when we both know when people say "ancient aliens" they mean the something in the vein of a Dalek, a Klingon or a Go'auld.
AA proponents don't say "alien" and mean "something not of this Earth" they mean "fellows from another planet who've broken the laws of physics and come here, played around with our genetics and our history and culture for kicks and giggles and then promptly buggered off again leaving no concrete evidence of their being here at all".

Now, I have to agree entirely with your proposition that "alien" can be anything not of this Earth, in fact it can mean anything not of the local variety - such as me being alien to London, or Erich Von D being alien to Australia. God (the King of Kings, you know the chap) is alien to us. But he's not AN alien from the planet Zog.

The ancient peoples did use the stars etc, they studied them and did think that was where their deities lives (except certain South America peoples who thought they lived underground, or Aboriginal Australia peoples who say point blank they live in a place-not-of-this-place but not "in the stars", or sleep in the soil and the trees and the dreams of man, and all the Greek beliefs that their gods lived on a mountain or were imprisoned underground, and a lot of Celtic deities lived in the woods or in another spirit realm that was certainly not space-y, more "here but not here").

Quote

As for the idea that ancient aliens were sentient beings who guided humanity in its development? Who is to say that the earth, stars and planets are not sentient beings with feelings?
Some version of the Gaia theory? Interesting, I've not heard this one bandied about in relation to human development.

Quote

As for the idea that ancient alien sentient beings that have the typical alien archetype and humanoid type features guided humanity or interfered with humanities development aswell? then i am not convinced about that, however i do have reason to suspect that it might have happened and that there is intelligent human type life outside the earth that are completely superior to humans in a technological and spiritual sense.
Yes, it might have happened. Or it might have been Atlanteans. Or Time Travellers. Or exactly what archaeologists have been telling us.
I personally shy away from the AA theory on the grounds there's no physical evidence that cannot be equally interpreted as either advanced, but lost, human culture, more skilled then we give credit cultures or modern forgeries.

Quote

I feel that humans are naive if they think they are the only intelligent specie.
Noone, and this deserves repeating, noone here is suggesting that.

I must not fear. Fear is the Mind-Killer. It is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and to move through me. And when it is gone I will turn the inner eye to see it's path.
When the fear is gone, there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

#643    LRW

LRW

    Apparition

  • Banned
  • PipPip
  • 351 posts
  • Joined:08 Nov 2011

Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:03 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 05 December 2012 - 12:08 AM, said:

[/size][/font][/color]

I can't help but feel that this is an attempt to play a game of linguistic tango with me, "of course they were talking about aliens, look here's a valid definition of aliens that covers exactly what we're talking about" when we both know when people say "ancient aliens" they mean the something in the vein of a Dalek, a Klingon or a Go'auld.
AA proponents don't say "alien" and mean "something not of this Earth" they mean "fellows from another planet who've broken the laws of physics and come here, played around with our genetics and our history and culture for kicks and giggles and then promptly buggered off again leaving no concrete evidence of their being here at all".




No, thats only one definition of aliens. The definition does not have to be limited in scope. You are looking through a limited scope and believe everyone else is looking through the same scope. Also, you make out that if there is no evidence of their existence, then therefore they don't exist, i think thats a naive viewpoint to be honest. Also, sometimes the evidence can be right in front of people, but they just don't see it, because they could not possibly comprehend what they are looking at.  

You mention aliens being from planets? they don't have to be from such spheres of rock and minerals. They can be from other dimensions or parallel universes, who knows what laws of physics are in those dimensions, they might be certainly extremely different from the realm that earth is in.

Most might look in the scope your way, for that i agree,  but people don't always think and look at it that way. The modern study of biology is basic at best, in fact i believe it is limited in scope and even below basic. Thats why there is this forum hosting paranormal discussion, many things remain unexplained. People see things that they have no explanation for, then you have other people trying to describe what they saw, even if they never even saw it themselves. The latter can sometimes resort to bullying and consider such people as lunatics, i think that shows how closed minded such people are.  

Extraterrestrial conciousness may have become so advanced that it does not have to obey the physics and general laws of earth and space like humans have to. The extraterrestrial's conciousness may have gotten so advanced that they do not even have to take physical form anymore, they might be just pure and powerful forms of conciousness that can step in and out of different realms and physical planes of existence, sometimes they might appear as invisible to the human eye and conciousness, but that does not necessarily mean they are not there, when they are seen, they might take the form of a colourful aura, a brilliant white light perhaps. Maybe, only certain humans can see them, due to something in their genes that can not be explained by modern science.

The star trek type aliens are primitive. You would think if the galaxy and universes are so old, and possible dimensions and parallel universes are so ancient, then extraterrestrials really should be much more bad-ass than what star trek makes them out to be. Star trek represents them as humanoids in physical forms, hardly an unlimited way of thinking.

As for the Gaia theory, then imagine humans, they also have bacteria living on them that can not be seen by the naked eye, some helpful bacteria, some bad bacteria. The earth may see humans as bacteria and when the bad humans make the earth sick, then the earths natural defenses will destroy the bad bacteria.


#644    Imaginarynumber1

Imaginarynumber1

    I am not an irrational number

  • Member
  • 4,828 posts
  • Joined:22 Mar 2010

Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:58 AM

View PostLRW, on 04 December 2012 - 11:20 PM, said:

You see rocks? but you foolishly miss the extreme importance of the symbols at hand.

The pyramid is a powerful spiritual symbol. Not just a stack of rocks.

The pyramid is SYMBOLIC of the shape of the human chakra. The missing capstone of the great pyramid represents the unfinished work, in other words the all-seeing eye. It was known as super conciousness in the ancient world

The pyramids served many purposes, one purpose was that of initiation and ceremonial rites. Many hieroglyphics depict the Gods turning their chakra's with a rod like instrument. Some of the Gods were latter labelled as Demons by the developers of christianity, one of which was Thoth. The pyramid was given as an energy centre to humanity. The pyramids are also known in the ancient world as the breath of life.

A stack of rocks? by gods, you are so naive.

So you're just on of THOSE people. That explains a lot.

"A cat has nine lives. For three he plays, for three he strays, and for the last three he stays."


July 17th, 2008 (Full moon the next night)

RAPTORS! http://www.unexplain...pic=233151&st=0


#645    psyche101

psyche101

    Conspiracy Realist

  • Member
  • 31,830 posts
  • Joined:30 Nov 2005

Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:01 AM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 04 December 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

Not necessarily.

As we make great strides in quantum mechanics and such, it becomes apparent that we humans are woefully ignorant of many laws of physics.

I do not understand the statement. What makes you think we are finding we have little understanding of physics? The periodic table indicates pretty much the exact opposite. We predicted Bob's element 115 and made it, and it came out how science said it would, not Bob's colourful claim.

View PostBabe Ruth, on 04 December 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

IF we have been visited, the visitors would have to build objects with what material was available, and in accordance with "local" physics rules, if you get my drift.

We had already been through the bronze and iron ages. Bauxite can be picked up from the ground. Plenty of metals were available too, but were not utilised by the proposed "advanced species" the materials that ancient man has been proven to use are the examples we have.

View PostBabe Ruth, on 04 December 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

I'll reiterate my point--those who doubt the AA theory (and I'm happy to qualify it as a theory) do not offer a persuasive argument to the contrary.  What they offer as proof is mere speculation, with many instances of use of the words "it is possible", "perhaps", etc etc.


Even any possibilities are still valid. Why do you see alien proposals on an equal fotting with [proposals based on historical record? The examples provided are an answer, it is one that is rejected by the AA proponents based on ignorance of construction methods.

AA does not even provide a valid argument. It has been shown that Puma Punku is one specific example where proponents have lied through their teeth to create a story. Again, I refer to this link.

You know how these blokes are rabbiting on abut pyramids being alien structures? Check out what AA says about Puma Punku.

Quote

AA: “Pumapunku is the only site on planet Earth that, in my opinion, was built directly by extraterrestrials.”

Do you agree with that?

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants. - Sir Isaac Newton Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit. - Ed Stewart Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Dr Who