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#16    Jeffertonturner

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:09 PM

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:16 PM

View PostHasina, on 15 November 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

The woman was seventeen weeks along, her symptoms seem to indicate she was miscarring but at the time the child's heart was still beating, this lead to the blood poisoning and then to a few of her organs failing. If the child had been removed when she requested it, it's believed she would have lived. Read the article and it explains it. There were two options, end up with two dead people, or have the woman live but abort her child. Which is murder?
Well... as I see it the abortion of a non - viable foetus is NOT murder. What IS murder is the part that the Roman Catholic Church imposes on Nation States in determining their Laws when it affects non- Catholics. Separation of Religion and State is what is at stake here - I do not want to be forced into accepting Hysterical, Jihadist - like, Christian doctrines when my own belief system believes them to be nothing more than subjugation of my own personal rights..
The Irish Govt needs to face Negligent Manslaughter charges, IMO


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:21 PM

Abortion ...IS  a womans choice.......

No MAN anywhere on earth has a right to impose his thoughts, beliefs or anything else...
Even though I never chose to have one. ITS important that the choice would have been mine.

I'm not saying use it as birthcontrol...

People really need to take on their on life , and not worry so much about everyone elses .


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:27 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 15 November 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

No.  We should let the baby live.  Nobody forced the woman to become pregnant in the first place.
You didn't read the article did you?


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:28 PM

View PostHasina, on 15 November 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

The woman was seventeen weeks along, her symptoms seem to indicate she was miscarring but at the time the child's heart was still beating, this lead to the blood poisoning and then to a few of her organs failing. If the child had been removed when she requested it, it's believed she would have lived. Read the article and it explains it. There were two options, end up with two dead people, or have the woman live but abort her child. Which is murder?
He is only saying it because he has nothing better to do. He is proberly a selfish ..


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:29 PM

I don't know...Abortion is the killing of a baby, before it gets born, and it's of course immoral, but what should happen at cases like this? What i feel sorry most is her husband though...

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 05:37 PM

View PostCuriousGreek, on 15 November 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

I don't know...Abortion is the killing of a baby, before it gets born, and it's of course immoral, but what should happen at cases like this? What i feel sorry most is her husband though...

No it isn't, at 17weeks, and failing , it would never have become a "baby". NO, it is not immoral unless we all have to subscribe to your own belief system.

I feel the most sorrow fior the death of a woman unecessarily because some despotic Religious Cult has managed to impose it's views on a nation of disparate believers.


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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:46 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 14 November 2012 - 10:49 PM, said:

:'(
And this is what the GOP wants in the USA . Ugh. If men could get pregnant ,do ya think it would be legal ,EVERYWHERE ?

That is so true.

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 15 November 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

No.  We should let the baby live.  Nobody forced the woman to become pregnant in the first place.

Erm.. The baby was dying and taking the mother with it..... I don't see how the second part of what you said is relevant in any way.

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 15 November 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

Abortion isn't a medical solution.  It's child murder.

How is it murder if the baby was going to die anyway?

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 06:59 PM

I wonder if the tune from the pro-lifers would change if it were themselves, or their spouse, laying there fighting for their life.
It's so damn easy having opinions about other peoples distress.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 08:27 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 15 November 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

No.  We should let the baby live.  Nobody forced the woman to become pregnant in the first place.

The doctor's told her that the baby was dying.  They MADE her wait until the baby died before they would help her.  If they knew the baby was dying anyway and there was no way to save it, then they should have helped her.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 10:58 PM

View PostEllJay, on 15 November 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

I wonder if the tune from the pro-lifers would change if it were themselves, or their spouse, laying there fighting for their life.
It's so damn easy having opinions about other peoples distress.
Actually as I recall politicians who run on banning abortions for all instances have been caught getting their spouses abortions, either due to life threatening circumstances or just 'cause.
The only one that particularly sticks out was the instance of the Romney's that was made public during the elections.
  As for the earlier person, yes no one forced her to become pregnant. Likely she wanted the child, and would have attempted again if she hadn't died.

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 11:44 PM

View PostTheLastLazyGun, on 15 November 2012 - 01:33 PM, said:

Abortion isn't a medical solution.  It's child murder.
do you really hold this barbaric medieval viewpoint ?if so stop decrying our muslim immigrant population for there medievel views on such things because if you really think a woman should be allowed to die in agony so a braindead babys heart can beat a little longer, you are no better(in fact worse)than they will ever be.


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Posted 16 November 2012 - 04:11 PM

View Postsmurf0852, on 15 November 2012 - 11:44 PM, said:


do you really hold this barbaric medieval viewpoint ?if so stop decrying our muslim immigrant population for there medievel views on such things because if you really think a woman should be allowed to die in agony so a braindead babys heart can beat a little longer, you are no better(in fact worse)than they will ever be.

Yup.

What I don't get are the people who see the world as black & white.  You can disagree with abortions, but, this wasn't an abortion of an unwanted pregnancy...it was the fetus dying and not being able to be saved...so not only make the woman suffer physically, but mentally and emotionally?  What century are we in?

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 02:21 PM

View Postkeithisco, on 15 November 2012 - 05:16 PM, said:

The Irish Govt needs to face Negligent Manslaughter charges, IMO

I agree.  Any Government which murders an innocent child needs to face the full weight of international law.


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Posted 17 November 2012 - 02:51 PM

View PostEllJay, on 15 November 2012 - 06:59 PM, said:

I wonder if the tune from the pro-lifers would change if it were themselves, or their spouse, laying there fighting for their life.
It's so damn easy having opinions about other peoples distress.

A lot of pro-lifers believe that it would be right to save the mother in this case.  Something similar happened to Rick Santorum's wife and she terminated the pregnancy.

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