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#1    F. Mulder

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Posted 17 June 2005 - 09:29 PM

My friend read a book on spiritual warfare and said that there are a kind of demon that make you frightened of nothing. They just induce fear into you. He also said that if someone gets possesed by a demon, all you need to do is say "Inthe name of Jesus Christ leave this persons body". If the subject is not ready though, then the demon wil re-enter the persons body, and have a stronger grip on that person. Some ways to identify if someone is possesed is that they may have superhuman abilieties,the ability to speak in different languages, and/or thier voice may change into a much deeper pitch.


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Posted 18 June 2005 - 01:13 AM

QUOTE(F. Mulder @ Jun 17 2005, 04:29 PM)
My friend read a book on spiritual warfare and said that there are a kind of demon that make you frightened of nothing. They just induce fear into you. He also said that if someone gets possesed by a demon, all you need to do is say "Inthe name of Jesus Christ leave this persons body". If the subject is not ready though, then the demon wil re-enter the persons body, and have a stronger grip on that person. Some ways to identify if someone is possesed is that they may have superhuman abilieties,the ability to speak in different languages, and/or thier voice may change into a much deeper pitch.

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There is no temptation taken you but that which is common to man and God will not test you more than you can handle. Resist the devil and he shall flee.
Or in more modern vernacular, "Just say no".



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Posted 18 June 2005 - 05:06 AM

I posted a similar response somewhere else, can't remember where though.

Anyway, I was once in the presence of someone posessed so.  They were screaming (and when I say scream, it was unnatural; not human).  Three Christians were praying for the spirit to leave her body.

After the event, this girl was a totally different person.  Not prone to violence, or outburst of rage, like I knew her before, but calm, generous, caring.

So yeah, I believe that evil spirits can possess people.  But i also believe it takes more than just chanting Jesus' name to exorcise them.  It takes true faith in our Lord and saviour for this to happen.  If one does not believe, then one cannot call on Jesus' name.

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Posted 18 June 2005 - 12:46 PM

QUOTE(BFG @ Jun 18 2005, 12:06 AM)
I posted a similar response somewhere else, can't remember where though.

Anyway, I was once in the presence of someone posessed so.  They were screaming (and when I say scream, it was unnatural; not human).  Three Christians were praying for the spirit to leave her body.

After the event, this girl was a totally different person.  Not prone to violence, or outburst of rage, like I knew her before, but calm, generous, caring.

So yeah, I believe that evil spirits can possess people.  But i also believe it takes more than just chanting Jesus' name to exorcise them.  It takes true faith in our Lord and saviour for this to happen.  If one does not believe, then one cannot call on Jesus' name.

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I have very little experience with such things. But some people say devils and demons cannot possess you unless you invite them in.




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Posted 18 June 2005 - 07:00 PM

QUOTE(GodsMessenger @ Jun 18 2005, 12:46 PM)
I have very little experience with such things. But some people say devils and demons cannot possess you unless you invite them in.

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I certainly believe that is correct. Not only with words, but by doing the wrong things playing with Ouija boards, etc.) as well. I also don't believe that a demon can possess you if you are a Christian; however, you CAN be obsessed with and even *oppressed* by them. It has been said of Satan (or Lucifer, actually) that he appears as an angel of light -- seeming to be good, but deceitful and evil underneath. And as such, he appeals to our human nature of curiosity, and before we know it, we have opened a door that we cannot easily shut again.

And it's also true that it takes faith to cast out a demon, not just words.

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Posted 23 June 2005 - 12:13 AM

ok I am really freaked out over this Georgia haunting stuff of the Wyrick family.  It was on the discovery channel and everything.  The show said that they contacted their Pastor and got their Church involved.  Yet now I've read that the younger daughter is still seeing spirits?  Did the evil spirit depart after the Pastor got involved?  Aren't all Demons and evil spirits supposed to flee at the name of JESUS?    
Did they speak the evil spirits out in the Holy Name of JESUS?  
Cuz if not then that's something they need to do.
Keep me posted.   I am so freaked out and I feel yucky inside.  JESUS help restore me!  In Your precious name Jesus I pray...
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Posted 13 August 2005 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE(Paranoid Android @ Jun 17 2005, 10:06 PM)
I posted a similar response somewhere else, can't remember where though.

Anyway, I was once in the presence of someone posessed so.  They were screaming (and when I say scream, it was unnatural; not human).  Three Christians were praying for the spirit to leave her body.

After the event, this girl was a totally different person.  Not prone to violence, or outburst of rage, like I knew her before, but calm, generous, caring.

So yeah, I believe that evil spirits can possess people.  But i also believe it takes more than just chanting Jesus' name to exorcise them.  It takes true faith in our Lord and saviour for this to happen.  If one does not believe, then one cannot call on Jesus' name.

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Hello, I'm new to the forums here.
I wanted to clarify a few misunderstandings concerning demons and deliverance from them.
While it is true that you must have faith when using the " Name of Jesus ", It is also true
that you must belong to Christ to have His authority over Demonic Spirits.

Please consider the following passage...

Acts 19:15 The evil spirit answered, "Jesus I know, and Paul I know, but who are you?"

Somehow a group of these itinerant Jewish exorcists--the seven sons of a Jewish high priest, Sceva--had heard Paul preaching and speaking the name of Jesus. From other texts, we know that Paul often spoke of Jesus as the "Son of the Most High," a name that would obviously appealed to such exorcists for use in various spells and incantations. And now here we find the seven sons of Sceva using the name of Jesus during exorcisms. But using our Lord's name backfired on them, for when the "evil spirit," heard these men using the name of Jesus, "he answered them, `Jesus I know and Paul I know about, but who are you?'" Certainly this was not what the would-be exorcists wanted to hear! It also did not help matters when the man who was possessed by the demon somehow over-powered all seven of these men, beating them to the point that their clothes were stripped from them and they were bleeding.

This incident soon become widely known throughout the region, and as Luke puts it, "they were all seized with fear." And as a result of this was that the name of "the Lord Jesus was held in high honor." As a demonstration of their new-found faith in the true God Most High, whose name was now openly upon their lips, here were these former magicians, sorcerers and wizards, publically burning their scrolls, which contained all of their secret incantations and spells. The collective value of these amounted to some fifty thousand drachmas, no small amount.
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Posted 13 August 2005 - 08:57 PM

QUOTE(sweetgirlforJC @ Jun 22 2005, 05:13 PM)
ok I am really freaked out over this Georgia haunting stuff of the Wyrick family. It was on the discovery channel and everything. The show said that they contacted their Pastor and got their Church involved. Yet now I've read that the younger daughter is still seeing spirits? Did the evil spirit depart after the Pastor got involved? Aren't all Demons and evil spirits supposed to flee at the name of JESUS?
Did they speak the evil spirits out in the Holy Name of JESUS?
Cuz if not then that's something they need to do.
Keep me posted.  I am so freaked out and I feel yucky inside. JESUS help restore me! In Your precious name Jesus I pray...
Lisa
GOD bless you all.
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Actually, the pastor of the church simply told them that they have authority over them.
I was more than upset at this because what should of happened is, they should have
went through the renounciation process of all satanic activity for all the family members.
Once that's done the dirtbags (demonic spirits )..LOL, No longer have a right to attack the people.
Then comes annointing the house in the name of Jesus.
This is a cleansing process that must be done so that the spirits no longer have a right to the property. Asking God to forgive all witchcraft and satanic involvement , renouncing it and asking God to come and place His Presence and His Angelic hosts over the property.
Once this is done, the spirits and their power as well as their rights of being there have been destroyed. And their power and authority will also be severely reduced !

Command all spirits of witchcraft, necromancy, satanism, death, murder (if someone died of murder on the property), allegiance to satan and his spirits to be bound and cast out by the blood of Jesus !

If they do return, they are only trying to cause you to fear !
Sometimes they do, because they do not want to lose the place they have once had control of.

1st Timothy 1:7 God has not givin you a spirit of fear, but Power,...His Power !

Cast out the spirit of fear !

As a Holy Spirit filled believer you have more authority !

You also have more discernment into the spiritual realm !

Acts 19:2 - Have you received the Holy Spirit since you have believed ?

Acts 1:8 - ( Jesus ) You shall receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you !


Speaking God's word with authority drives them away !

Playing powerful worship music and worshipping God is actually your greatest weapon !
God will pour out His presence and you will have His peace.
They can't stand God's presence !
But both of these together benefits a believer the most !

A few Powerful scriptures to declare are...

Psalm 91 - I am in the hands of the Lord !
The Most High is my safe resting-place, my refuge,
and no evil shall conquer me. nor any plague or calamity come near my dwelling !
For He will give His angels charge over me to accompany and defend and preserve me in all my ways !

Luke 10:19 - Behold, I give you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions,
and over all the power of the enemy. Nothing will in any way hurt you !

Psalm 62:11- All the power belongs to God !

Matt 16:18 - The gates of hell shall not prevail against the church !

Isaiah 54:17 - No weapon formed against you shall prosper !

Hope this answers your questions and gives you strength, hope, and courage.

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How could this Jesus before them be both God and man.
He was crushed for our evil, punished in our place
He died for us, He rose again.
Receive His saving grace.

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Edited by FearLess !, 13 August 2005 - 09:22 PM.


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Posted 13 August 2005 - 09:04 PM

What if it was a Jewish demon? Christ wouldn't compel him. hmm yes.gif

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 09:13 PM

QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Aug 13 2005, 02:04 PM)
What if it was a Jewish demon? Christ wouldn't compel him. hmm yes.gif

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LOL,...no such thing. Demons don't represent culture only the devil who is a liar & a loser w00t.gif

Edited by FearLess !, 13 August 2005 - 09:17 PM.


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Posted 13 August 2005 - 09:15 PM

Well how would Hindus get rid of demons since they don't believe in Christianity?hmm! yes.gif

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Sometimes we need a kick in the butt to wake us up. Well, I'm up now!Boo ya.


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Posted 13 August 2005 - 09:17 PM

QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Aug 13 2005, 02:15 PM)
Well how would Hindus get rid of demons since they don't believe in Christianity?hmm! yes.gif

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They wouldn't thumbsup.gif unless they renounced hindu involvement and gave their lives to Christ.


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Posted 13 August 2005 - 09:22 PM

Thats what I was looking for. You chrisitians think that everyone else's religion is bogus except yours. Such ARROGANCE. Most of the world would be going to hell considering that two thrids of the population of the earth is not Christian.

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Sometimes we need a kick in the butt to wake us up. Well, I'm up now!Boo ya.


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Posted 13 August 2005 - 09:23 PM

QUOTE(ericraven2003 @ Aug 13 2005, 02:04 PM)
What if it was a Jewish demon? Christ wouldn't compel him. hmm yes.gif

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Have to agree. Why is it only Christians getting possessed? at least it seems that way. I have heard of many posesions taking place all over the world. So what roll does Jesus play in those one's?  

Tribal leaders in Africa for example perform exorcisms all the time, with out using "the power of Christ compel's you".  Posesion in any form is a mental disorder and the church should back off.  

Ok ok I can't be 100 % sure of that but my 2 cents anyway. Skeptic believer here.
:whis can an Athiest be possesed?

Edited by The Silver Thong, 13 August 2005 - 09:28 PM.

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Posted 13 August 2005 - 09:27 PM

QUOTE(F. Mulder @ Jun 17 2005, 05:29 PM)
My friend read a book on spiritual warfare and said that there are a kind of demon that make you frightened of nothing. They just induce fear into you. He also said that if someone gets possesed by a demon, all you need to do is say "Inthe name of Jesus Christ leave this persons body". If the subject is not ready though, then the demon wil re-enter the persons body, and have a stronger grip on that person. Some ways to identify if someone is possesed is that they may have superhuman abilieties,the ability to speak in different languages, and/or thier voice may change into a much deeper pitch.

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Oh, Sweet Gaia, I have the book "Spiritual Warfare"!!!  w00t.gif

I must say, it's absolutely horrible. I firmly believe that the author was schitzophrenic. I don't believe even a huckster would expect a sane person to believe the dregs vomited onto those pages. The author even goes so far as to explain how vegetarians are inadvertant minions of Satan and health food stores are bastions of Satanic influence.   wacko.gif

Pure. Utter. Crap.   blink.gif

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