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#91    DieChecker

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 12:05 AM

So EVEN Bill Maher is coming around on "Taxing the Rich". The man who is the B (Bill) in LiBeral. Now to work on Maher on Guns!!!

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 02:06 PM

Bill meher is also filty rich too. In fact, Die checker I suprised at how authoiran  you sound by playing on thier willgness not to go to jail.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 04:17 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 26 March 2013 - 07:17 AM, said:

GE pays taxes on its profits, and can find ways to make profits into not-profits.  The rich can do the same. You need to tax consumption in some way -- by a revenue tax on companies and with VATs, and the problems are solved.

Trying to "plug loopholes" doesn't work.  They are endless.

That's more in my line of thinking too.  Don't tax personal income. Tax a person's consumption.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 04:48 PM

View PostOverSword, on 21 March 2013 - 10:48 PM, said:

ummmmmmmmmmmm, BULL!  not only do I pay around 12% to 15% out of every check, I also pay taxes every time I purchase something.  I would say that easily 20% of every dollar I make get taken out in taxes.  And single, no children (dependants) not a home owner, what the F deductions are you talking about?
Sorry for the confusion.  The conversation was on averages.  As Highlander pointed out – on average (2009 data), the top 10% pay about 18% in taxes.  But the bottom 50% pay 12.5% (on average).  I.e., on average, the poorer get more in deductions.  I'm sorry that you are paying 20% but according to the data then, there is someone in equivalent income to you that is probably only paying 5%.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 04:54 PM

I own stock through an American broker; if the US puts on a transaction tax it is but a couple of hours on the internet and bye-bye US.  You can't do that sort of thing in an international market.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 04:56 PM

View Postninjadude, on 22 March 2013 - 02:55 AM, said:

yes it does. They have more ability to pay.
Just because they have more ability to pay does not mean that they should be forced to pay.  The top 1% should not be holding 36.7% of the burden (2009 data).  They already take much of the risk in creating jobs and providing product and services.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 05:05 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 22 March 2013 - 12:53 PM, said:

It's stupid to not tax the rich.  That's where the money is.
Maybe that's where the problem is?  This (believe it or not) isn't about money but shared responsibility.  Taxing should not be about how much the state can take from the people but the people sharing the burden through taxing.  That means that the government must remain within its means.  No expansion unless it meets specific future growth milestones.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 05:46 PM

View PostYamato, on 24 March 2013 - 05:17 AM, said:

You want everyone to pay taxes, I want nobody to pay taxes, and you call me a socialist?  Like so many other posters on this board, I have to agree, you don't have a clue what socialism is.
That comment is an excellent example of your intellect.  And as usual, wrong.  I didn't say I wanted everyone to pay taxes but if we are going to pay an income tax then everyone should pay equally and government stay within its means.  I would prefer to repeal the 16th Amendment and do away with the income tax and the Federal Reserve as well.  I think a domestic consumption tax would be more than fair.  The rich will pay more because they buy more.

Your previous comment: "The top 10% of wage earners should pay 100% of the income taxes.  The bottom 90% should pay 0." Again shows that you are pure Socialist.  And if you have trouble with my view of Oligarchies especially after extensive explanation then the lack of understanding is not on my part.  When you are willing to debate this on an adult level then show me you've earned it by proving it in a thread devoted to it.  My stance is quite simple.  A 5 year old can understand it.  Are you at least as intelligent as a 5 year old?

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 06:28 PM

View PostFrank Merton, on 24 March 2013 - 07:08 AM, said:

I would suggest that tax rates should be decided by some independent board (appointed the usual way but with fixed terms).  Then whenever Congress spends money, this board would announce what that would do to the taxes.  Automatic balanced budget (or maybe small deficit depending on economic conditions) and the population would see what each item of spending does to their pocketbook.
The CBO can crunch the numbers.  You don't need some independent board.  What needs to happen is to pass the 28th Amendment (Balanced Budget Amendment).  Setup milestones for future growth and simply don't spend money you don't have.  In good times, pay off the debt and sock-away as much as you can into a rainy day lockbox ($1 trillion).  In bad times use Pay-it-Forward from the lockbox to ensure that it eventually is recharged.  Use those funds to invest in the future of this country and not waste it on welfare or Entitlements.  No more of this 8% automatic projected growth.  Determine the need first and then see if the money is there.  We don't need to *see*, we already know what taxes do to the pocketbook.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 07:50 PM

View PostRyinrea, on 02 April 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

Bill meher is also filty rich too. In fact, Die checker I suprised at how authoiran  you sound by playing on thier willgness not to go to jail.
I just think that if you're going to live here you should contribute. If all you can contribute is time (public service), then that is all you can do.

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Posted 02 April 2013 - 08:05 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 22 March 2013 - 03:05 AM, said:

10% of a billion is what? $100,000??
that's a shedload of cash in tax. 10% is a drop in anyone's ocean, rich or poor can pay 10% with even the most rudimentary budget.

Not sure if anyone else picked up on this or not but......10% of a billion = $100,000,000 (thats one hundred million dollars)
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:32 AM

View Postpraetorian-legio XIII, on 02 April 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

Not sure if anyone else picked up on this or not but......10% of a billion = $100,000,000 (thats one hundred million dollars)
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:52 AM

View PostRavenHawk, on 02 April 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

  They already take much of the risk in creating jobs and providing product and services.

Were that actually true we would be basking in huge numbers of jobs. In fact, what they really do is create jobs overseas. Not really the same thing.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:56 AM

View PostRavenHawk, on 02 April 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

everyone should pay equally

careful you're socialist attitudes are showing. For what possible reason would we want to give the rich a HUGE tax break by having everyone "pay" equally?

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 03:57 AM

View PostRavenHawk, on 02 April 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

  In good times, pay off the debt and sock-away as much as you can into a rainy day lockbox ($1 trillion).  In bad times use Pay-it-Forward from the lockbox to ensure that it eventually is recharged.

I thought you didn't like Keynesism?

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