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#31    sussexontheriver

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:30 PM

View PostLikely Guy, on 27 January 2013 - 03:25 AM, said:

I  think  that  the  Op  was,  trying  to  evoke  the  spirit  of  Captain  Kirk.

Or some such nonsense. Either way, I think that it's past their bedtime right now. :)
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Posted 28 January 2013 - 02:26 AM

So, why do you travel through time????

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 07:42 AM

Onereaderone, no offense but is English your first language? If so, then I find it hard to believe that you know exactly how to time travel but have trouble spelling.

Plus your about me sentence in your profile makes it even more confusing: "i am a word crafter ,a phrase master"

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:15 PM

this  is  not  hard  to  understand  ,  but  it  is  hard  to  see  that  it  has  an  answer   that  your  looking  for .

matter  can  change   its  motion ,  but   motion  is  conserved ,  so  nothing  is ever  lost  .  you  can  change  matter  to  energy  ,  or  energy  to  matter...   but  nothing  is  really  lost ...   every  motion  has  its  beginning  at  the  big  bang .

if  you could  remove  the  energy  of  a  motion from  space  time...   you  would  not  just   stop  it from  going  into  the  future...   you  would  remove  it  into  the  past  as  well .

you  asked...   how  do  you  go  into  the  past  from  this  moment  and  effect  the  past ...  in effect...  you have  reduced  the  problem  to  the  answer ...   the  man  who  had  no  children  25,oo  years  ago still  has  an  effect  on  this  moment ,  if  you remove  the  effect of  his  life ...    he  is  gone  from  the  big  bang  untill  the  end  of  time...   in to  the  future   untill  time  restarts .

if  you  can  find  the  exception  to  the   newton's   second  law  of  thermal  dynamic's ...   you  have  time  travel .
(  i  beleave   2nd  is   ,   for  every  action  ,  there  is  an  equal  and oppisite reaction )    or the  conservation  of  energy  law

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 04:53 PM

View Postonereaderone, on 27 January 2013 - 12:40 AM, said:

sure...  there  are  9  class's  of  time  travel  ...   but  the  easiest  is  a  tank  of   liquid  nitrogen...
at  or  near   your  point  of  death ...   yours  dropped  in  and ...   the  pop sickle  you  is  fired  in  to  space  with  a
"  becon "  

Do spacebars of the future automatically double space for you or is that just a nervous twitch you have after typing each word?

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.

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Posted 28 January 2013 - 09:11 PM

call  it  a personal  fault of  charicter ,  i  feel  more  comfortable  seeing  ideas  diffrently  than  you.
i was  going  to  explain  ,  but  know  that   you  have  less  intrest  in  the  way  i  see  language   ,  than  i  have  in  telling  you .

let  me  say  this , in memory  addressing  ,it  has  a stack  counter,  that  adds  one  (or  subtracts) to  each  location except  in  the  zero  page   of  the  addressing ,  there  is  a bank  out  function  that  lets  zero  page  stand  alone  for   alert  state   functions. at the  high end  of the  addressing  is  the  random access where  the  pointers  jumps  as  directed .  for  you  ..   language  is  statements  of  under  5  seconds  ,  questions  of  5-8  seconds   ,  data  or  explanations  of   greater  than  8  seconds .
as  a  genaral  rule ,  objects   are   given  either  a  noun  or  a  verb state .

a  shovel  is   a  hole  maker  ,  a  cup  is   a  liquid  holder  ...   one  idea  is  what  is  done  to  it ,  the  other  idea  is  what  you  need  it  for .
who  it  serves  ,   what  is  the  service .
i  know  this  does  not  make  any  sense  to  you  ,   but  you  care  so  deeply  about  how  i  space  my  words....

the  function  is  to  have  a string  of  address  that  are  either  nouns  or  verbs ...  but  never   noun  follow  noun  ,  or  verb  follow  verb .
these  are  actions  being  carried  out ,  process  functions  or  tasks  being  done .

i  see words   very  diffrently  than  you ,  and  am  a  bit  awe  struct  by  how  easily  you manage .
i know  i  do  badly  ,  but  have  little  in  the  way  of  means  to  settle  or  still  your  objections  .


so  you  want  to  know  how to  build  a  time  machine .

it  takes  2  parts

1) isolation  tank.

2) remote  viewing  target.

it  helps  if  you  have  self control  ,  but  that  is  not  required .  this  is  not  dangerious  ,  but  the  target  might  need  you  to  be  careful .
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the  isolation  tank  should  be  filled  with   salty  water ,  but  normal  water  is  fine if  you  have  a hard  time  with  this .

you  need  a peice  of  foam (  like  a seat  cushion ) that  will  soak  up  water  ,  but  also  floats and  will  support  you...  but  not  feel  rought  of  disturb  your  skin ,  the  water  needs  a heater ,  warmer  than  bath  water  ,  not  as  hot  as  a  hot  tube.  85  to  100  degrees  (  what  ever  your personal  prefrance )

when  you  lay  in the tank   ,  you need  to  not  feel  either  warm  or  cold  ,  and  it  needs  to  be  in  a very  very  quiet place  and very  dark  (  totaly  black )   place .

you  do  not  want  to  go  to  sleep in  this  tank  ,  you  could  easily  drowned  ...  so  you  need  some  one  to  watch  over  you ...   they  will  listen  to  you  breath ...  if  your  rate  drops  below  10  breaths  per minute  ,  they  need  to  turn  on  the  light  in  the  tank  and  wake  you .
...  and  every  one  falls  asleep  at  least  once  in  the  beginning ...
or...
only   monsters  and  morons   do  not  fall  asleep  at least  once  in  the  beginning ...   and  some  people  fall asleep  everytime ,  and  some  people   just  can't  get  over  the  idea  some  one is  spying on them .

your  goal  is  to  not  feel  anything at all .

your  not  floating  ,  your  not  laying  down  ,  your  not  anything...   you  have  no  feeling  of  touch  at all .

...or...   the  largest  sense  organ  of  the  body  is  the  skin ,  it  is  second  only  to  the  eyes ,  and  only  a  magnitude  more  active  than  the  taste/smell  ,  and  or  the  hearing .

success is  when  you  shut  all  four  of  these  senses down  completely by  turning  off  what  they  are  designed  to  receive .  sight  ,  touch  , hearing  and  smell .

visualize  the  target  ,  and  telescope inside  with  your  imagination ,  go  inside   it  with  your  imagination ...

you  need  to  set  a rythem  of  settle  on  what  your  seeing  ,  then  see  your  self  going  into  it  deeper .

some  people  go  in  with  the  inhale    and  settle  on  exhale  ,  it  is  a personal  choice .
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the  target  is  a  block  or  ball  of  ice  sitting  on  top  a  color .

it  is  critical  to  say  the  color  first ....   the  red  cloth  ,  the  red  card  or  the  blue  can  ,  or  the  blue  tray...  what  ever  the  thing  is...   name  the  color  first in  the  nameing  or  "color prenounce"   of  the  target object .

also  ,   right/ left  ,  up /down  ,  numbers/  letters ...   will  not  be  seen  or  understood by  your  viewer ,  and  are  totaly  of  no  importance .

it  is  not  important  that  the  subject  viewer  sees the  target , it  has  no  effect  one  way  or  the  other ...
but  any  one  who  does  see the  targets  * * * must  see the target assocated  with  the  color marker * * *

never  mix  color  markers...   the  target has  no  time assocated  with  it ,  so  even  a few  seconds  will  confuse   the   target  .

inside  the  block  or  ball  of  ice  is  a  tetrahedron  of  four carbide  equalateral  triangels  with  11  degree  sides.

they  are  machine  cutting  tools you  will  freeze  them  down  to   31  degrees  and  use  water to  "  glue  "  them  togater....   then  dip  them  into liquide  nitrogen let  them  fill  completely...  seal  them  with   a  drop  of  water  and  then  apply   water  to  the  out  side  and  dip  in  nitrogen  again....

repeat  the  process  untill  you  have  a  ball  about  the  size  of  a  "soft ball "   3 inch  to  4 inch  in  diameter

be  aware  the  nitrogen  will  be  over  20,oo  psi  in  a  matter  of  minutes  and  if  there  is  the  smallest  crack  you  will  hear  a sharp   snap  /pop/ bang ...   and  you  can  discard  that  ball  from  the  target  set .

unless  you  are  a  fool  ,  your  safe  from  anything  bad  happening ,  but  understand  that  liquid  nitrogen  is  a  weee  bit  colder  than  your  use  to..   do  not  snuggle with it .
these   targets   even  if  they  totaly  lose  it  and  blow  all  to  heck  and  gone ...   the  biggest  event  will  be  a load  sound ,  and  more  likly  you  will  not  even  hear it  ,  if  you have  a major  blow  out .
(  most  of  the  time  you  will  only  see  the  crack much  later.
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your  goal  as a  viewer  is  to  see the  place  between  electron  vales...  but  also  to  not  see .
you  need  to  lens ,   to   look  and  hold  what  you  see ,  and  keep  it  long  enought  to  remember  it.
to  do  this   you need  to  block  out  the  noise ,  and  not see.
block  out  the  things  your  mind  makes up  ,  block  out  the  rushing  river  of  thoughts   and still  your  mind.
hold  on  to  the  breathing  in  and  out  of  your  breath  and  fall  into  what  ever  is  between  .
you want  to  see  in the  minds  eye ,  the  place   in  the   rolling  , bumping ,  bubbles ...   the  space  between ...
do  not  go  into  the   bubbles...  look   for  a  place  where   the  atoms  are  not  moving  as  much ,  find  the  quiet  space  between  them  and  let  your  minds  eye  fall  into  that  stillness .

the  hardest  part  is  the  beginning ,  once  your  past  the  churning  ,  things  will  calm  down  alot   and  things  slow   down  for  you  ...   or  speed  up  ,   its  all  a  point  of  view really .

i  will  not  tell  you  what  happens  if  you  succeed...   but  i  will  tell  you  that   as  you  fall  into  the  stillness....   it  gets  more  calm .


i  will  also  tell  you  that  your  looking  at  the  condition   that  was  before  the  big  bang ...
its   there  ,  between  the  atoms... or  between  the  stars ... you  just  have  to look .

from  the  movie  contact  "  you wanna  take a ride "




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Posted 29 January 2013 - 02:08 PM

View Postonereaderone, on 28 January 2013 - 09:11 PM, said:

*snip*
Please answer this question:
What is behind door #2?

Edited by Daughter of the Nine Moons, 30 January 2013 - 01:14 PM.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 02:36 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 26 January 2013 - 10:37 AM, said:

clearly  the full stop will be a lost art in the misty futures.
Andanexcessofspaces...Oh.crap.he.must.be.typing.another.story.because.my.spaces.are.disappearing.as.I.type...Luckily.I.can.use.the.full.stops.he.left.out.to.separate.my.words. :wacko:

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 02:15 AM

I happen to really like onereaderone's posts. They helped me fall asleep last night. They honestly did.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 04:44 AM

View Postonereaderone, on 28 January 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

if  you  can  find  the  exception  to  the   newton's   second  law  of  thermal  dynamic's ...   you  have  time  travel .
(  i  beleave   2nd  is   ,   for  every  action  ,  there  is  an  equal  and oppisite reaction ) or the  conservation  of  energy  law
That's the Third Law.
the second is "an object in motion will stay in motion unless acted upon by an outside force".

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:27 AM

View Postonereaderone, on 27 January 2013 - 12:40 AM, said:

it  is  not  so  diffrent  from a  bad  asid  trip   on  meth ,  while  riding  a rollercoaster  in  a car  with  screaming  babys ...  

Okay, well now that I understand...can't wait to see how I feel by page 6

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 01:09 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 30 January 2013 - 04:44 AM, said:

That's the Third Law.
the second is "an object in motion will stay in motion unless acted upon by an outside force".

And the fourth is why the **** is this post still being replied to?

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:22 AM

View Postonereaderone, on 26 January 2013 - 02:38 AM, said:

...   honestly.....
i  never  said  i  was  a time  traveler  ,   and   my  spell  check   is  really  the  issue  ,  the  school  system  has  done  a fine  job   producing  a  culture  that   can  text  massage while  driving ...   but  little  else .

Michael J. Fox... eat your heart out.

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:46 AM

back  to  the  future   was   a  very  fun  movie ,  it  did  miss  a few  of  the  finer  points .
energy  ,  time  and  eternity  are   all  the  same  thing , seen  as  difffrent  only   .

from  the  moment  of  the  big  bang  ,  energy  is  being  converted  to  matter .
you  see  it  as   going  from  higher  order  to  lower  order....   or   from  hot  to  cold...    what  is  missed  is  ,  it  goes  from   energy  to  matter ,   in  a change  of  motion  conversion  that  will  end  as  a  single   black  hole ....   that   absorbs   all  the  energy   in  all  of  space  time....   into   a  single  ,  last  singularity ....  that  is  that  single  point   with  out  anything  to  change...

and  time   stops...    and  reality  ends ...   and  you  slip  into   void  again .

what  is  also  not  clear  is....   everything  is  the  same  each  time  the  big  bang  pops ...   so  everything  is  the  same ...   everything  is  perfectly  ,  totaly  ,  the  same  .
and  you  and  i  are  the  same  as  well...  

we  do   the  same  things  ,  live  the  same  lives   eternaly....
you  are  you  and  i  am  me  ...  and  we  live  forever....   as  our  selves ,  living  the  same  lives  ,  the  same  way  ...  for  eternity ....

and   out  friend  john  tetter   jumps   from   life  time  to  life  time  between   big  bangs...  jumping  thru  the  holes  of  a  quantum   slip ...   not  like  the  quantum   pare vortex  ,  it  looks   the  same  ,  but  the  two  are  very  diffrent...   he  uses  the  same   matter...    but  it  happens   in  each cycle  of  the   awareness   interface ... a  quantum  pare  vortex  is   the   shock  wave  that   happens  because  of  the   spreading  apart  of  the   half's ....

the  best  minds   can  not  say  just  what  it  is...   the  actual  effect  is  not  really  understood ,  what  they  know  it  is  not  is  sheding  energy  or   balance  of  force   ...  they  also  know  it  is  not  ether  or   zero  point  back  ground  noise.

what  the   cern  people  see  is  that   strong  and  weak   are  acting   inversly ,   and  there  is  something  down  that  rabbit  hole  .

a  heads  up  to  the  cern  people...   think  of  the   waveicle   test...    not  a partical  ,   and  not  a  wave ...
what  you  are  seeing  is  the  test  ,  not  the  answer ...   you  see   not  by  the  light  you  take  in  ,  but  by  the  light  you  exclude ...    to  see  down  the  vortex  ,  its  not  what  you   put   in  the   hole,  its   how  you  exclude what  is  not  coming  out ,  and  then  charged  coupled  devices  in  layers  .
the  trick  is  putting  a charge  at  every  junction...  and  watch  them  discharge...   record  those  that  discharge  to  figure  out  the  path  of  the  partical/  waves...  

its  not  going  to  be  light ,  and  not  partical  either ...   look  at  the   angles ,  giggles  ...  your  going  to  be  so  very  confused.



to  those  who  have  not  a clue  what  i  am  saying....

dark  matter  and  dark  energy  are   interface  galixys   that  are  not   time  /space.... but  have  either  one  or  the  other  dimension   of  either  time but  not  space  ,  or   space  but  not  time...  but  will  have  ele/  space  ,   or  psi/  space  ...   ele  time   or  psi / time ....   and  frankly  speaking  there  are  other  dimensions   too...

time, eternity  /  space,  infinity ...   is  not  the  only  game  in  town ...  and  that  is  seen  in  the  math  of  dark  energy  and  dark  matter ...   what  that  leads  to  is  that    time  space  is  just  one  of  meny  envelops  where  awareness  can  reside ...   but    human  awareness  is  captured  here ...   more   or  less.

john  tetter  showed  you  that   "  more  or  less "   is  not  out  side  your  ablitys  ...

but  what  it  also  showed  is  it  can  be  dangerious  as  well ...

be aware ,   you  are  not  reading   a  time  travelers  thoughts   ,  with  the  consent  of  the  author of  those  thoughts .
it  appears   i  have  got  the  attention  of  some  one ,  and  it  may  start  getting  intresting .

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 12:01 PM

she woke up one day and knew that I was out there some where. but she had things to do and a life to live. her lover was a voice from the future that made her feel the greatness that was hers alone. there were answers that she had no heart to understand. the confussion of her life was lifted ....and clearity can be very hard to deal with....she danced in a one pass dance that would not dance the same dance twice for fear that tomorrow would come to soon.
before she met him.she wanted excitement in her life, she mistook lust for romance , and wreaklessness for dareing  , honor and disapline  for boredom and  ....she ran in the company of danger and brutal mindless evil and when he came in the quiet measured voice of a most common and simple man ,..........that she
knew for days measured in moments , the loss of  him was nearly anguish.

he simply didn't understand what she was talking about, he didn't understand what it was that she wanted from him. she found the letter he left for her,  a story , a fiction , that didn't change  anything.  nonsense and symbol ,miss spelled words and algebra with meaning that only the  man and her could understand.
in the letter was the day and hour ,

what I looked like and where to look.

I had the day off and so I went to the museum . In the bright light of the late morning sun,I saw this  beautiful woman who came with a man and seemed to anyone seeing her to be looking for a lost child...
she captured my eyes from fifty feet away. she was tall and slender,
dressed for an elegant evening among rich and powerful well heeled society and the politically proper elite.
her friends were not like me... not the droll little troll from machine shops and steel yards , storm fenced bone yards and Levis with dirty cuffs ,she  would never  talk with  a  guy  like myself. how I found myself talking with her is lost in a fuzzy mist of the past,  but there on a bench out side by the grass.....
she talked of god and politics and physics .... and suddenly.... I knew , she was   here   form  a place  so far in the future , it would be meaningless  to  in the attempt  ..... of course, I was mistaken........... but for a while she had a good time with me.she  said  a  fue   words....  befor  I  got it  ,  she  talked    and i felt her  mind move.....  lisened  and  heard  her  words..... when I understood her story .
she cried and her friend came and asked to forgive her for she was.
...crazy.....
she and I knew that she was not crazy...
she hadn't been feeling well.....her lover knew that I could help her,a lover  from  a future  that  no longer  exsisted... but  how  he  knew  is a mystery .

when the guy that came with her  that  morning  had left us alone  , I told her that he was a friend , and didn't know any better.

Never assume malviolance
when ignorance  will explain it.

she talked to me of a different time when she talked with a man who understood all that a mind could hold.

as  she  fingered  her ring, turning it  on her finger she said there are many myths that seem on the telling of them to be truth . and the knowing of them , or telling , to impart wisdom.

the wearing of rings .

each ring is a person that is loved, the character of the person that is loved.
to wear the ring is to embrace the memory in the heart. the wedding set is the two men a women marrys, the one before and the man after the vows. gold rings are forever , as diamonds are forever. they have a life and character
that changes those around them . silver tarnishes and brightens with the wearing.
silver records all the lives that touch it and tells who the person is that wears it. it is a witness and companion to the hardships and triumphs , failures and successes .
to ware a ring  is to  hold a  past person  captive  in the soul...
to hold their memory in the heart....that person  in the mind......  even when the person changes  ......as people do.....and time  moves them.... a women is a thousand people between twelve and thirty. but after thirty she becomes her mother. a man is the work that he does, who he sees himself  as is a reflection of the skill and discipline in the work that he does. a man without work is a sorry creature , what he did in the past is how he sees the history of that time.
a woman seeks  relationships with others , relationships with others ......relationships with others , with the ease of breathing . man , woman, animal , or child ; it makes no great different with whom a woman finds  relationships with others ...... relationships with others , and an empathy of spirit .
a man was not designed to be alone, and can find solace in men only when he has found the company of a woman .

a man alone will be less troubled , less hurried , and in every way,
comfortable and in control of his life and the living of it. he will also be hungry for the company of a woman.  the trouble that a women brings is a good kind of problem. nothing that a women does makes their company have either value
or reward equal to  trouble they cause and the damage and money they cost. but they are the singular answer for the solitary living of a man, by design. the woman a man should seek has an age of half his age plus seven years.

I laughted in the truth of her words........ and she smiled...... she told her friend to go..... I could see that he was concerned...... she had met with me for only 30 minutes , and  not  ever known me befor this moment in   time.....  but  he  did  as he  was told...
she needed to walk....  walk and  watch the  side walk as we talked
she knew a pilsner bar on the other side of the river..... "lets walk and talk, chocolet truffle cake and beer..... "  her eyes giggled , and I felt that it had been months since she had smiled.....she asked  me to stretch her mind with a thinking thing..... I knew what she ment with the words...... and I said

...nothing that you have ever known

begins to prepare you for
this night mare of the thinking and the  horror of the waking minds knowing of  the concept  of the  void ,but when you begin to seek void,   know that if you ever succeed
and find yourself looking into the harming absolute vacuum
that is the very nature of the knowing, that your escape is in saying to yourself

"   I am looking in to void ... there is the void ....and there is me,  myself... there are two of us."

what is void ?  don't quickly seek to know it . understand
that the void I speak of is no simple word ,but it is a stat,
condition of infinites ,eternities, absolutes, total states
that stretch the very operation of the thinking process.
void is not limited to the absence of matter , there is an
absences of everything , electromagnetism ,gravity , .....

everything that makes up what is commonly excepted ,is no more.
there is on an infinite scale ... no motion at any scale, from
the microsub atomic to the cosmic there is no motion , from
the nano second to the eons of centurys there is no motion.
because no where is there any distinction between any two
points, forever and everywhere there is unbroken and totaly
without distinction uniform nothing. . . . even the idea
that this place has a nature of night like darkness or cosmic
size are limitations that do no apply  ... even the idea of
nothing is expanded in that you must nolonger look at it as
if it where related to zero , with the possibility of one.
there is nolonger even the possibility to sense size or time,
these are meaningless .
direction , center , acceleration , force, mass , the speed
of light ,  all are meaningless concepts that do not apply.
we paused on the bridge going over the river....  and she touched  my arm and said to me....
if you continue thinking along these lines, know that where
you are going is totaly personal.... but I hope with a small chance
at an insight or two.


with all that you have seen in that mind expanding void ,
let a single point of distinction enter

,and the game begins all over again.  "  we  begin walking  again as I lisen to her  voice......
side walk  watching  , thinking thinkers  talking , minds  lock  thoughts stalking  ,  our  minds   caught  in walking  .

" without granting any qualitys to this point,beyond that it is
not the same as all else, things begin by themselves.
however the mind is aware of the point,defines its nature.
if from the void there is the violent escape to any point
other than that place that the mind has been looking into...
that place without god....    .  this point, is only a little
different from the embodiment of the joy in embracing and
being embraced by god.  if after loving and wooing this
friend and companion , this point of distinction. you can
begin again to look with aclear
eye , see what is with us.
what can you say of its size?
because it is singular in nature,there is nothing else to
compare it to.   and in this case nothing means infinitely
and eternally . if the point of distinction had two sides
to it...it  would not be one thing , however its size would be
relative to itself.in an ideal model however it is not as
much fun granting dimensions or mass, lets make it work these
qualitys out for itself.
however without any help from us it dose have a scale to
measure itself with , infinity!
its relationship to infinity is its relative size.
and as that size changes there is a relative time period
using eternity as a scale.

but could it be that the rules that make the point exsist are
far more interesting than the magic that they create.

this point that can igsist in the mind can also be seen in
the cosmos and all around us.
when the big bang is small and ready to expand out , it is
small because infinity is large , and when it expands ,it is
changing its size relative to infinity and eternity.

inverse temporal mobiuus feed back loop.

  that is what we are in a nut.


have you ever realy thought about the simplest of all given
conditions in the living and feeling of all of this.
there is a difference between places and time that the new
math must see. energy and matter may be  related .....
but time and  space are not. eternity and infinity are not.
it is like looking at the differences between portland and
Thursday , a mile and twenty hours .....
Thursday is everywhere all over the cosmos , Thursday is not
more or less anywhere more or less. it is just as much here
as in portland  ... or the far side of the universe.
Thursday has no size or location.
portland is a place that can be measured in feet and miles
but it lacks a time.
you can say the events leading to it and after a mans death
those things following his end,  yet  my thinking is that you
can not measure it in inches or hours because they are a thing
different .
eternity is of a class of things that includes time ,energy,
and in the most absolute condition  expressed itself as the
big bang ,accelaration without mass.
infinity is also of a class of things that include space,mass
and in the most absolute condition expresses itself as the
one and final black hole that will reduce the total cosmos to
a single unity that will end time.
or should I say mass without change.
the family resemblance is striking between the beginning and
ending, but there are differences that are far more different
than the same.  how would it be if one half of the cycle were
reversed .....no match.... but there are significant
clues,the numbers aren't right,nor events.... but  if both
events were viewed not as one big bang,and one big crunch,bvt
as one event seen in two directions at once slipping from a
dimension that we cannot see thru our reality and into a
second dimension that we cannot see then the numbers do fit.
what kind of statements could be made of this, our reality.

she and I entered the  bar and  were seated..... I ordered a shrimp salade  and a lemonade..... my tall graceful friend ordered a new spring beer and truffle cake... and she said to me ....looking into  and  holding the salad dressing bottle ....picture in your mind a slim fish tank filled with a clear oil and water , you can clearly see the divider between them  but which is it oil or water. the interface is neither and both at the same moment.
when the interface is disturbed bubbles form, some of oil
some of water .... neither silver  interface of  bubbles  skin  or shell is more or less valid as an expression of  the  same  kind  of interface  as  the  larger  one   between  the body  of  oil  and main body  od water , oil in the
water,   and   water in the oil.
the contents of the bubbles direct the behavior tword the
ground plane or ether .

she shook the bottle of salad dressing and a foam of bubbles formed...

what I suggest is that this is a model of the interface that
is in fact what reality is except that the oil in the model
is time or eternity or energy or acceleration electrons  ,  or even the big bang itself !, and that the
water in the model is space or infinity or matter or mass.

when in this reality ,  we see only it ,  feel  only  the   silver  bubbles  and  not the oil  or water   that  they  are made of . the interface happens- between  time  and space , we are what  they share  in common ,  awareness   in the   silver   skin of  bubbles  of  salade dressing  ,   magic is sure to
follow.  its between these two that life igsists and all the
activity is an expression of the two natures of the two
dimensions that we cannot see but are clearly expressed every
where you look.

the human body is the mass nature expressed.
its voice says " I survive . I don't like change,I want to
stay the same .   I want to sleep in the same bed , eat at
the same time , the same foods ."
what is the body? a collection of devices that have a
measurable volume .... physical relationships of co
dependance
however friendly the organs of the body are to each other
they are individuals operating independently.

the mind is the energy nature expressed.
its voice says " I want to know everything and
anything,without qualification ,exception ,or exclusion.

I want to be affected by  everything for its own sake...
taste the new wine, smell clover and roses,lisen to MOZART in
the afternoon and gershwin in the morning"

what is the mind? it is the relationships and connections
between the nerves in the skull and as such is never realy
finished. it is as much the learning that has taken place and
history of memorys it contains as any structure or patterns
that have resulted from the learning. the mind can be said
not to have either a size or volume unless clear instructions
define the intent of the measurement.
will blood and blood products be included, will non nerve
tissue be included,  where dose the brain begin [at the
spine, at the brain stem , at the nerve inclusive of all
nervious matter], do you include chemical as well as
electrical
aspects of the brain.

the soul is the interface expressed.
this poor beast is not a player but has a voice  that says at
a whisper" who am I. I know who I am,by knowing who I am not.
to find yourself you must loose yourself in the service of
others. seeking god is a selfish act that is noble
and god is the order that is in a way the fabric the soul is made of.....

her eye looked over a glass of wine
and spoke of the soul of man kind .
hammered  between the machine intelegance and eternal time.
molded  and stressed , beaten  and  formed.
the maddness  of beings  stretched and  bent on  times anvil.
the battle feild  casualtys , and scars  on the land scape.
humans  are  the  interface between evolutions of mind.
like the wind blown cypress that is bent  against  the   wind  and coastline.  the  bloom  of  a rose in a moon scape,   the  phoenix that rises  from ash ,  made  pure  by flame and hardship .  made  strong by god and judgement , greater  for  the  struggle of  hardship of anothers  making .  
she and I talked and talked.....she seemed so tired and acheing when we first met.....and she was so alive  as she  spoke.....I felt my mind swelling with the  pictures painted in thinking things.....fancy filling food for thought

what words , what sounds, that fills the fiber of my brains crouded mood towns .....citizens of the streets, and allie ways of phrases ,found in memorys and fantacys places....dreams that feel like yesterday, and waking ways, ways that I have gone today, ways in which I move today......
words I use and missunderstand, sounds I like,sounds I cannot plan.... rush from mouth , and ear fall , crash or land,
words that float, and fly so high, angels seem to ,with them, standby...
great grand philosophys, and conjurings,leave me pondering longingly....  rapture in the cyan sky, tinted lofty clouds painted in dusks red rust dusting .....lust for passions touch...in blue canvas of something up..... walk among the thinking stuff ,a thinking thinkers ,thinking things ,that he thinks when thinking... food for the mind , a minds eye word meal, finding phrases that might feel like something real when words are wraped around the meaning ,and lifes living live shy sigh ,buying emotions devotion in  tidal  motion of the human ocean , ebb and flowing ....empty lonliness and  crush of compromise, flood and flow   with words that blow like wind in storms or row the oars against the currents of thoughts and phrases that knowing knowers knew would  tumble you an hold you....bind you  tie and steal your will to struggle .....  held in confussion till you see they are just like me.... and only their words are faster...no master... just a bit more clever as a word crafter...your mind skips and glides, lifts and rides the  stary night sky of dreams and wonder in your mighty heights....silky slip strokes that sip apon your waiting lips...kiss and curess , loving  lasting  lingering touch , his fingers run over her inner thighs , she sighs wanting , looking deep with in the eyes.....infinity in the  black hole of inner desire .....pulling togather romance and the folding arms  that wrap around and hold .....the surrender of being bold....and asking for what can't be told........
AAAAaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh..... the maddness and confussion of bliss  in knowing  all the mind could  hold .
the joy in the bringing  , and clinging , and holding......
words are not meant  for the  things  I am thinking ,  words are so  happy when they do  things  for the thinking....  paint in the mind , and fill in the feelings  feeling.....
she leaned over the table and kissed me....I like you.....and her words echoed back. what did your  time guy tell you about the future she asked?
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