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#16    Erikl

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Posted 16 March 2004 - 09:27 AM

Please read the following, in order to understand the reasons for the attack:

Who’s Next after Madrid?

Edited by Erikl, 16 March 2004 - 09:28 AM.

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Posted 16 March 2004 - 09:28 AM

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Are the Spanish cowards? No.

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Are they bowing to terrorism? Well, that depends how you look at it; if the majority of Spaniards had been for the conflict and now voted out the Government because of this bombing then the answer would be 'yes'. But, as the vast majority were opposed to the War, then I think they are simply showing their anger at what has been brought upon them because of their Government's support of Bush.


80% of the Spanish population didn't agree with being involved with Bush and Iraq. So they voted out the man that put them in this position. Which is what they should do if they do not like where he has taken their country.  I don't think they bowed to terrorism per se. But it's not what I think that matters right now. It is how the terrorist are going to read the results of this election. Remeber we're talking about a group that can't even get the message of the Koran right.  crying.gif

Stamford, well presented with sound logic.  thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif  



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Posted 16 March 2004 - 09:32 AM

I think that one of the greatest weapons in their arsenal is the fact that they could strike anywhere.

These people are opportunistic and will strike wherever the security is seen as weak, allowing them to fulfill their purpose of sowing fear around the world.

Edited by Stamford, 16 March 2004 - 09:38 AM.

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Posted 16 March 2004 - 09:37 AM

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It is how the terrorist are going to read the results of this election.


I agree with you stillcrazy and I think these maniacs will get a lot of milage from this.

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Stamford, well presented with sound logic.
Thanks, mate, although with every passing horror this old world of ours chucks out I get a little more depressed and confused.

Where are we heading?  crying.gif  

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Posted 16 March 2004 - 10:01 AM

Erikl, very interesting artical.

However I take all news articals with a grain of salt. It's my jaded eye so to speak.

I have no doubt that Osama and company, also read these stories to see what we are doing. I do not believe that they have a structured order of attack per se, each target will be attacked but not with any set order.

I read between thirty to sixty newspapers a day to see whats going on and how others look at the U.S.  And while I also like Israel's reporting, but due to their current situation, I find bias in most of it. No disrespect to you or your country. It happens in all news organizations. (It's the only way you get the government to cooperate with stories)  

But I still stand by my statement that Osama and his crew are not so much looking to attain a set goal at this time. All they need to do is get the people of certain countries to turn against it's elected officials. Then the real war will begin.

  


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Posted 16 March 2004 - 10:22 AM

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Remeber we're talking about a group that can't even get the message of the Koran right.


Can anybody help me turning these Koran verses ...

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Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult or oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. But if they cease, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.


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#22    Stamford

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Posted 16 March 2004 - 11:23 AM

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And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression.


I guess in the eyes of these people the above is still relevant?

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Posted 16 March 2004 - 12:03 PM

totally right stamford.

The spanish people just used their democratic right.....

The spanish people didnt want the war, now theyve shown what happens when governments think tehy are invincible, also anzar blind blaming almost zealot like of ETA made him look like he was further misleading his people.

Why isnt what spain is doing the right thing, What if in going down this route they find a better way of dealing with the obvious hatred of us that exists in the middle east??

Maybe our governments should sit back an take notice of what is happening in spain.  

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Posted 16 March 2004 - 12:38 PM

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Maybe our governments should sit back an take notice of what is happening in spain.


It's just a shame Blair won't get kicked out - i'd love to see that smug smile wiped off his face.

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Posted 16 March 2004 - 12:50 PM

Yeah i agree until two words pop into my head "michael howard", i swear tehr would be a rebellion in scotland if he got into power after what he did to us.

Maybe gordon brown is our only hope. crying.gif  

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Posted 16 March 2004 - 12:57 PM

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Yeah i agree until two words pop into my head "michael howard", i swear tehr would be a rebellion in scotland if he got into power after what he did to us.


I never forgave him for that "Repetative Beats" fiasco in the Criminal Justice Act.

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Posted 16 March 2004 - 01:31 PM

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I thought Japan wasn't allowed to have an Army anymore as part of WW2 treaty.

That is a japanese internal policy. It does not limit the army, it just states that japan cannot take over other land or be the aggresor.

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Posted 16 March 2004 - 02:43 PM

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That is a japanese internal policy. It does not limit the army, it just states that japan cannot take over other land or be the aggresor.


Shame this isn't the policy of certain other countries.  

"The future's uncertain and the end is always near."

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"When you laugh about people, so very, very lonely their only desire is to die, well I'm afraid it doesn't make me smile. I wish I could laugh. But that joke isn't funny anymore, it's too close to home and it's too near the bone... "

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