Still Waters Posted April 29, 2015 #1 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hungary's prime minister has said he wants to debate the possible reintroduction of the death penalty with his European Union partners. Viktor Orban said current penalties for serious crime were too lenient and capital punishment should be "kept on the agenda" in Hungary. http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-32523384 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted April 29, 2015 #2 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hungry PM calls for hamburger. This points toward Europe going back to a more conservative view. Maybe we'll see a resurgence of religion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.United_Nations Posted April 29, 2015 #3 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Hungry PM calls for hamburger. This points toward Europe going back to a more conservative view. Maybe we'll see a resurgence of religion? huh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted April 29, 2015 #4 Share Posted April 29, 2015 IMO No governement should have the right to decide who lives or dies regardless. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Wellington Posted April 30, 2015 #5 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Hungary's prime minister has said he wants to debate the possible reintroduction of the death penalty with his European Union partners. Viktor Orban said current penalties for serious crime were too lenient and capital punishment should be "kept on the agenda" in Hungary. http://www.bbc.co.uk...europe-32523384 The EU - the majority of European people don't want it and it gives them legislation they don't like. A double violation of Democracy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenceMinisterMishkin Posted April 30, 2015 #6 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Hmm..what shall we bring back? I vote decapitation.. "OFF WITH HIS HEAD!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted April 30, 2015 #7 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Waste of time and resources. A Penal Colony at the South Pole for the world's capital offenders would do quite nicely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Border Collie Posted April 30, 2015 #8 Share Posted April 30, 2015 Waste of time and resources. A Penal Colony at the South Pole for the world's capital offenders would do quite nicely. Australia. Just saying, it worked before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted April 30, 2015 #9 Share Posted April 30, 2015 IMO No governement should have the right to decide who lives or dies regardless. Except during war right? Just pointing out peoples hypocrisy when it comes to this. Im fine with the death penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabby Kitten Posted May 1, 2015 #10 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Okay EU let's go back in time shall we? Why not go all the way and start living in caves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewinn Posted May 2, 2015 #11 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) It will never be reintroduced, goes against one of the pillars of the European Union, in regards to Human Rights. Murderers have the right to murder who they choose and in response we have the right to incarcerate them for life. works well. as long as you, your family & friends are not the victim. Edited May 2, 2015 by stevewinn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenceMinisterMishkin Posted May 2, 2015 #12 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Except we the tax payer have to foot the bill to keep these "people" clothed, fed, watered and entertained! Hell, they can even gain formal qualifications inside prison which we also pay for. A good sturdy rope or a sharp axe can save the tax payer millions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithisco Posted May 4, 2015 #13 Share Posted May 4, 2015 ...as the ultimate means of removing some heinous scumbag from Society then I believe it should be available as an option. It is however a requirement of EU membership that this option is not on the books. Go figure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefers Posted May 5, 2015 #14 Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) Except we the tax payer have to foot the bill to keep these "people" clothed, fed, watered and entertained! Hell, they can even gain formal qualifications inside prison which we also pay for. A good sturdy rope or a sharp axe can save the tax payer millions. The problem is that any innocents being executed would make it murder. Besides, in the US, people are on death row for years, still costing the people tons of money. But if we'd execute the people sooner, the suspect/convict would have less chance and time to defend him/herself, causing even more innocents to die. Some people are obviously guilty, admit it, all evidence is there, etc., fine, but that's far from always the case, especially with authorities falsifying evidence (the FBI in the US for a recent example). Government sanctioned murder is irreversible, innocents in prison, while still terrible, is kind of reversible, despite not being able to get the lost years back. Edited May 5, 2015 by Beefers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Raven Posted May 7, 2015 #15 Share Posted May 7, 2015 The problem is that any innocents being executed would make it murder. Besides, in the US, people are on death row for years, still costing the people tons of money. But if we'd execute the people sooner, the suspect/convict would have less chance and time to defend him/herself, causing even more innocents to die. Some people are obviously guilty, admit it, all evidence is there, etc., fine, but that's far from always the case, especially with authorities falsifying evidence (the FBI in the US for a recent example). Government sanctioned murder is irreversible, innocents in prison, while still terrible, is kind of reversible, despite not being able to get the lost years back. . I say it should only be used when the person is caught in the act or there is no question what so ever that he/she is guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan max2 Posted May 8, 2015 #16 Share Posted May 8, 2015 . I say it should only be used when the person is caught in the act or there is no question what so ever that he/she is guilty. Technically all rulings are suppose to be made "without a reasonable doubt " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bavarian Raven Posted May 8, 2015 #17 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Technically all rulings are suppose to be made "without a reasonable doubt " I know. But when someone is caught in the act there is no doubt vs based on evidence or questionable witnesses and the like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted June 3, 2015 #18 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Did you hear what this PM is calling for now...? https://ca.news.yahoo.com/multiculturalism-doesnt-hungary-says-orban-085144462.html "Multiculturalism means the coexistence of Islam, Asian religions and Christianity. We will do everything to spare Hungary from that," he said in an interview with daily Napi Gazdasag."We welcome non-Christian investors, artists, scientists, but we don't want to mix on a mass scale." Orban, whose governing Fidesz party is losing ground in the polls to the far-right, anti-immigrant Jobbik party, has clashed with European counterparts over his isolationist views. At the European Parliament in mid-May, he criticized as "bordering on insanity" EU proposals for migrant quotas drafted in response to thousands of deaths among asylum-seekers trying to reach Europe across the Mediterranean in increasing numbers. This guy is a Hungarian moderate? The MORE conservative anti-immigration party is gaining ground?? Wow. And people say that we have religious/ethnic issues here in the US.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted June 3, 2015 #19 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Did you hear what this PM is calling for now...? https://ca.news.yaho...-085144462.html This guy is a Hungarian moderate? The MORE conservative anti-immigration party is gaining ground?? Wow. And people say that we have religious/ethnic issues here in the US.... No, he calls himself moderate, were he German the adjective would be neonazi. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deleted Posted June 3, 2015 #20 Share Posted June 3, 2015 They can`t introduce the death penalty since in EU primary law which stands above the national law there are basic rights guarantees which would contradict death penalty. If Hungary would introduce the death penalty, sanctions would follow, they also would lose their right to vote....etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted June 3, 2015 #21 Share Posted June 3, 2015 No, he calls himself moderate, were he German the adjective would be neonazi. Yeah, but supposedly the part to the Right of his is gaining in support and threatening to take power. If he's a neo-nazi then what are these other guys? Straight up Nazis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickian Posted June 4, 2015 #22 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Did you hear what this PM is calling for now...? https://ca.news.yaho...-085144462.html This guy is a Hungarian moderate? The MORE conservative anti-immigration party is gaining ground?? Wow. And people say that we have religious/ethnic issues here in the US.... I have no idea how much he dislikes or even hates immigrants, but it isn't wrong for him to not want his country to be flooded by individuals with conflicting beliefs and a desire to not embrace local culture over their old one. Not liking multiculturalism and not wanting it in your country doesn't immediately make you a racist scumbag at least. I don't know enough about the guy to say if he one or isn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questionmark Posted June 4, 2015 #23 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Yeah, but supposedly the part to the Right of his is gaining in support and threatening to take power. If he's a neo-nazi then what are these other guys? Straight up Nazis? Straight Nazis only exist in the US nowadays, most other places they are outlawed, so they have to call themselves something else. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted June 4, 2015 #24 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Except during war right? Just pointing out peoples hypocrisy when it comes to this. Im fine with the death penalty. in Portugal even during war, there are no death penalty, it's in our constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godnodog Posted June 4, 2015 #25 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Did you hear what this PM is calling for now...? https://ca.news.yaho...-085144462.html This guy is a Hungarian moderate? The MORE conservative anti-immigration party is gaining ground?? Wow. And people say that we have religious/ethnic issues here in the US.... he's no moderate, all countries have religious\ethnic issues, some are dormants others are active, this hungarian pm is a right wing looney and a populist, he's more on the line of the american republican party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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