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The Real Turnover Begins in Afghanistan


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 10:41 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2...rces/?hpt=hp_t3

Maybe the spec ops guys did, maybe they didn't, but the guarantee follow on of this move is more US casualties.  I believe Karzai is working with the Taliban to try and save his own skin for after the 2014 pull out.  Miserable low life politician that he is...I didn't really expect any different from him OR Oby for that matter.  Time to go!

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:27 PM

I cannot honestly believe that U.S special forces would go on the rampage as their Officers wouldnt let them,so I guess its the Afghanies working with them,getting a bit of revenge.The ordinary people of U.K and U.S.A want their boys home and have been saying that for a few years,its the Damned Politicians who are keeping them there, but Afghan land has shown its true colours now,they really did'nt want us there in the first place,As I have said before they are happiest when they are blasting each other to Parad.. (Hell) and have been doing so for the last 1000 years, and will continue to do so long after we have left. Its the way they live and its Hereditary.Roll on the day the last Western troops get on the plane home,but before they go incinerate all the Poppy fields,and stop them exporting misery and death..

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 01:50 AM

View Postspud the mackem, on 24 February 2013 - 11:27 PM, said:

I cannot honestly believe that U.S special forces would go on the rampage as their Officers wouldnt let them,so I guess its the Afghanies working with them,getting a bit of revenge.The ordinary people of U.K and U.S.A want their boys home and have been saying that for a few years,its the Damned Politicians who are keeping them there, but Afghan land has shown its true colours now,they really did'nt want us there in the first place,As I have said before they are happiest when they are blasting each other to Parad.. (Hell) and have been doing so for the last 1000 years, and will continue to do so long after we have left. Its the way they live and its Hereditary.Roll on the day the last Western troops get on the plane home,but before they go incinerate all the Poppy fields,and stop them exporting misery and death..

You know if they don't try to export their religion and views into other countries, we would leave them alone and let them wage their wars.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 03:18 AM

To be honest,Afghanistan has been a total waste of resources,time and lives.We all know that when the U.S pulls out,that the Taliban will just quietly slip back into power.

Deja Vu... :gun:

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 04:42 PM

View Postshaddow134, on 04 March 2013 - 03:18 AM, said:

To be honest,Afghanistan has been a total waste of resources,time and lives.We all know that when the U.S pulls out,that the Taliban will just quietly slip back into power.

Deja Vu... :gun:

Totally agree, maybe it could have worked but too few were interested.  It can't blame them after the Iraq fiasco.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 05:43 PM

View Postskookum, on 04 March 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

Totally agree, maybe it could have worked but too few were interested.  It can't blame them after the Iraq fiasco.
The Afghan military will either be overrun or infiltrated(If it hasn't already),Karsai will be strung up in the main square in Kabul and buisiness as usual.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 10:52 PM

View Postshaddow134, on 04 March 2013 - 05:43 PM, said:

The Afghan military will either be overrun or infiltrated(If it hasn't already),Karsai will be strung up in the main square in Kabul and buisiness as usual.
The Afghan Military and Police are already infiltrated,as you must have read that Afghans in Military or Police uniforms walk into camps and kill American and British soldiers.Their whole system is corrupt.

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Posted 04 March 2013 - 10:55 PM

why was seal team 6 put in a Chinook helicopter ?  Of course were gonna leave now.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 10:32 AM

View Postshaddow134, on 04 March 2013 - 03:18 AM, said:

To be honest,Afghanistan has been a total waste of resources,time and lives.We all know that when the U.S pulls out,that the Taliban will just quietly slip back into power.

Deja Vu... :gun:
It's even worse than that because the Taliban never slipped out of power.

http://articles.wash...nts-peace-talks

When people stream in from every neighboring country for the opportunity to battle with the US military in Afghanistan, there will be more qualified Taliban-esque leadership to choose from than ever.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:24 PM

View PostYamato, on 05 March 2013 - 10:32 AM, said:

It's even worse than that because the Taliban never slipped out of power.

http://articles.wash...nts-peace-talks

When people stream in from every neighboring country for the opportunity to battle with the US military in Afghanistan, there will be more qualified Taliban-esque leadership to choose from than ever.

It's will be infuriating to the families of the fallen.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 12:31 PM

I think the opinions expressed above pretty much have it.  What happens after that is that Pakistan goes down the same road.

They will probably know not to pull another 9-11, but they will not be able to resist doing things -- nasty things.  India is probably in for its share of attacks, and that may end up in a nuclear exchange.  I tend to be an optimist about the world but when I look at countries with radical Islamists in power, it is hard.


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Posted 05 March 2013 - 08:27 PM

View Postshaddow134, on 05 March 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

It's will be infuriating to the families of the fallen.
It's infuriating to me, and I'm not in such a family.

Military force is for combat, not nation building.   If we need military to nation build, we shouldn't be doing it, no matter where it is.  That should be common sense by now after the history of contradictory and counterproductive policies we've burdened our troops and our taxpayers with.

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