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[Arpee]

Dreams are also receptions. They happen, unless it is a lucid dreaming, and even that is happening you just believe you are control because there is this apparent "you" that you are identifying with in the dream.


When you realize you cannot be identified, you realize that it is all reception. Emotions arise, thoughts arise, intentions arise, ,action arises... all of this received just like observation of reality is received...


From belief systems and experience, there will be a "will" (intention) happening from this apparent body.

Saying it in a more simple way...

People can identify with anything, they can say "I am everything" or "I am the body" or "I am emotion" or "I am thought" , in reality we are just observers of experience, receiving sight of reality and dreams are no different, just another "type" of experience...


We can even be receptive of a thought saying "I am in control" or "I am the body doing stuff" and misidentify...

Edited by Arpee, 11 November 2012 - 09:35 PM.

[Setton]

Too much light, we can't see.

Too much dark, we can't see.

Surely that suggests we belong somewhere in the middle?

[Professor T]

Setton, on 11 November 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:

Too much light, we can't see.

Too much dark, we can't see.

Surely that suggests we belong somewhere in the middle?

Doh!
I like that simplicity!

Took me 3 posts and about 4 paragraphs to say basically the same thing.. lol.

[Arpee]

Setton, on 11 November 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:

Too much light, we can't see.

Too much dark, we can't see.

Surely that suggests we belong somewhere in the middle?

With too much light, you are seeing, you are seeing light.
Reality is light / energy and we are observers receptive to its sight.

Who are "we"? The ones who are observing the "body", the "thoughts", the "emotions", the "actions" , the "world", etc....

Edited by Arpee, 11 November 2012 - 10:49 PM.

[Professor T]

I percieve that you are not receptive to a any opinions that do not promote the idea that we are pure darkness.

To quote you below.

Arpee, on 11 November 2012 - 04:26 AM, said:

We are receptors , we are receiving awareness OF light/reality...
Our only job is to receive, and we are already doing this whether we like it or not, and to resist is to get beat up by life...

hmmm, just think about this.. Because the premis is imo dangerous because it completely dimisses the fact that we project into the world.

[JGirl]

Arpee, on 11 November 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

They are still receptive of experience (energy) in other ways...

Sensation is a reception of energy
and so is smell (reception of molecules creating fragrance) and taste (reception of molecules by tongue creating "taste")

Experience can only happen through receptivity.

Even if you experience something "giving" to another, or even "the body" giving to another, it is still a RECEPTION of this movie of energy called reality/life.


So you see something give to another, you are "receptive" to the light, and sounds which allowed you to experience that experience.

so actually light and dark have nothing to do with it. you are not using them literally

[Beckys_Mom]

Arpee, on 11 November 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

With too much light, you are seeing, you are seeing light.

Impossible.. too much light is blinding.. Setton is right..

The sun face on can blind  you

[Moon Dog]

We have equal and full measures of both light and dark; order and chaos.
You get to choose how and when to use each.

[FlyingAngel]

The total energy we receive is the same as we emit/spent (law of conservation of energy)
Absorbing has nothing to do with darkness.

And a black hole doesn't simply just absorb things, its 2 poles emit waves

[_Only]

Moon Dog, on 12 November 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

We have equal and full measures of both light and dark; order and chaos.
You get to choose how and when to use each.

"Welcome to the free will planet; where dark and light live side by side. We call it Earth. You won't remember anything up to, and including, this point. Enjoy your stay; we'll be rooting for you."

*flash*

*baby cry*

[joc]

So, maybe you didn't see my post?

I ask the question again just in case you missed it:

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If everything is Energy (btw, I agree) then even 'darkness' is the same Energy...is it not?
So, my question to you is:  How are we being 'tricked' and tricked by whom?  By Energy?   How can Energy fool itself?

[_Only]

joc, on 12 November 2012 - 03:00 AM, said:

So, maybe you didn't see my post?

I ask the question again just in case you missed it:

I thought darkness was the absence of light. Not a thing, but absence of a thing.

[MysticStrummer]

We're not pure anything.

[joc]

_Only, on 12 November 2012 - 03:44 AM, said:

I thought darkness was the absence of light. Not a thing, but absence of a thing.

Quite literally, there is no 'absence' of a thing.  To put it another way...the only thing that exists is Energy.  Infinite Energy, constantly manifesting and remanifesting as an infinitely diverse spectrum of 'things'.  Darkness being one.  Light being another.

Where the OP made his first mistake was in saying that everything is made of light:

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Everything is made of energy (light). There are even thoughts and emotions, which we are aware of (receiving).
We are so emerged in this realm of energy "light" that we mistake our identity of "the one who is aware" to "the one who is doing".

Everything isn't made of light...everything is Energy however.

Consider the stars for instance...they are not light...they are huge condense 'entities of compressed gases, etc.'  There is no 'light' at the core of the star...only darkness...the light waves are created by the intense heat of the star as these compressed gases burn.

Consider also the 'space' in which the stars exist.  Is this nothing?  No.  It is something.  It is 'space'.  Also existing as Energy at rest.

Darkness and Light are both frequencies that are mutually exclusive.  You cannot have darkness where there is light, nor can you have light where there is darkness.

And I'm not trying to be an antagonist...this is after all posted in the Spirituality, Religion and Beliefs   forum...and so I am not really in the position here of being able to (nor do I have any desire to) diss the OPs belief as stated.
I am just trying to understand a contradiction in the premise.  If that is disallowed in this forum then so be it, I will just wander off into the...darkness.

[_Only]

joc, on 12 November 2012 - 04:52 AM, said:

Quite literally, there is no 'absence' of a thing.

*looks to my shadow on wall in front of me, and waves at it*

That's a thing created solely by an absence of light.