Holy Cross, on 26 August 2009 - 04:00 AM, said:
Here are a few other peoples of the earth that predicted a 2012 event: The Real Merlin, the Welsh called him Merlin Of The Wild, Sybil- The Roman Oracle, Mother Shipton, and The Hopi. All of these people said that a event that would shake the earth would happen in 2012. Sybil- The Roman Oracle said that fire would fall from the Heavens and very powerful earthquakes would shake the earh among other events which would effect the earth and its peoples.
, I take it you are talking about Myrddin Wyllt, when you say real Merlin? Myrddin Wyllt(Welsh pronunciation: [ˈməršɪn ˈwɨɬt]) or Merlinus Caledonensis is a figure in medieval Welsh legend, known as a prophet and a madman. He is the most important prototype for the modern composite image of Merlin, the wizard from Arthurian legend. The earliest (pre-12th century) Welsh poems that concern the Myrddin legend present him as a madman living a wretched existence in the Caledonian Forest, where he ruminates on his former existence and the disaster that made him mad : the death of his lord Gwenddoleu, whom he served as bard. A version of this legend is preserved in a late fifteenth-century manuscript in a story called "Lailoken and Kentigern". In this narrative, St. Kentigern meets in a deserted place with a naked, hairy madman who is called Lailoken, although said by some to be called Merlynum or "Merlin", who declares that he has been condemned for his sins to wander in the company of beasts.
The modern depiction of Merlin began with Geoffrey of Monmouth. His book "Prophetiae Merlini" was intended to be a collection of the prophecies of the Welsh figure of Myrddin, whom he called Merlin. He included "the Prophetiae" in his more famous second work, the "Historia Regum Britanniae". In this work, however, he constructed an account of Merlin's life that placed him in the time of Aurelius Ambrosius and King Arthur, decades before the lifetime of Myrddin Wyllt. He also attached to him an episode originally ascribed to Ambrosius, and others that appear to be of his own invention. Geoffrey later wrote the "Vita Merlini", an account based more closely on the earlier Welsh stories about Myrddin and his experiences at Arfderyd, and explained that the action was taking place long after Merlin's involvement with Arthur. However, the "Vita Merlini" did not prove popular enough to counter the version of Merlin in the Historia, which went on to influence most later accounts of the character. So all you have been reading about Merlin are mostly fabrications of some sort, the first of which were started by Geoffrey of Monmouth
No prediction of 2012 that I can see.
The roman Sybill, can you please elaborate as to which one you are talking about? There have been numerous sybills consulted by the Romans and a few actually where Roman, so it is important.
For example : The Sibyl at Cumae, a town in Italy near Lake Avernus, was said to inhabit a cave with one hundred mouths, each of which had a voice. She wrote Her prophecies on leaves, which She would leave at the cave entrance. The Cumaean Sibyl led Aeneas to the Underworld to visit his deceased father, after telling him to offer the Golden Bough (mistletoe) to Proserpina.
According to another legend, She offered nine holy books to the early Roman King Tarquin, but he refused, saying the price was too steep. She then burnt three of them, and doubled the price. He again refused, and She burnt three more, again doubling the price, and the astonished and worried King finally bought them. These Sibylline Books were then found to contain instructions for the proper worship of the Gods, and were kept very safe, consulted only on the direction of the Senate. The Sibylline Books or Libri Sibyllini were a collection of oracular utterances, set out in Greek hexameters, purchased from a sibyl by the last king of Rome, Tarquinius Superbus, and consulted at momentous crises through the history of the Republic and the Empire. Only fragments have survived, the rest being lost or deliberately destroyed.
The Sibylline Books should not be confused with the so-called Sibylline Oracles, twelve books of prophesies thought to be of Judaeo-Christian origin and invention. So the prophecy you gave here, comes from which one? The Sybilline books or the Sybilline Oracle?
And just so we are sure who we are talking about, there also were other oracles and sibyls : the Oracle of Zeus at Dodona, where the god spoke through the rustling of leaves, or brass vessels which were hung in the sacred oak grove; the Oracle of Trophonius in Lebadia; the Oracle of Zeus-Ammon in Libya; the Cimmerian Sybil; the Phrygian Sibyl, and the Tiburtine Sibyl, Albunea.
Mother Shipton or Ursula Southeil (c. 1488 - 1561) (possibly Ursula Southill or Ursula Soothtell), was an English soothsayer and prophetess. The first publication of her prophecies, which did not appear until 1641, eighty years after her death, contained a number of mainly regional predictions, but only two prophetic verses. The most famous claimed edition of Mother Shipton's prophecies, supposedly foretells many modern events and phenomena. Widely quoted today as if it were the original, it contains over a hundred prophetic rhymed couplets in notably non-sixteenth-century language and includes the now-famous lines:
The world to an end shall come
In eighteen hundred and eighty one.
This supposed prophecy has appeared over the years with different dates and in (or about) several countries. However, this version did not appear in print until 1862, a
nd its true author, one Charles Hindley, subsequently admitted in print that he had forged it. This is fact.
Again, no prediction of 2012 that I can see.
The Hopi tribe, Well not being quite so knowledgeable about them, I can't really say anything about them, although I can quote an article I really liked, from a few years ago. I'll add the
link, for those that would like to read the entire article. It's quite a good read.
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I would say that the Hopi Indian prophesies can largely be explained away as interpretations of past events, and when futuristic they could well be the stuff of dreams (man has always wanted to step on the moon perhaps), or simply flights of fancy. Many science fiction books spin flights of fancy but on the contrary there are many cases where science fiction becomes science fact. The interesting and perhaps disturbing part of Hopi Indian prophesies is the mention of metal roads and iron horses. However, I will say that some prophesies from other sources have been found to be falsities. A very good example is the recently discovered Nostradamian piece describing the World Trade Center impacts and collapses - being at the 45th parallel; this particular prediction actually originated with the Webbot project, and not Nostradamus. Also, the Webbot project assesses the general mood of the global Internet population and it was invented to predict sock market fluctuations, given that most people react emotionally it makes perfect sense; but the the Webbot project is about people and their emotions, and not about traveling the time curve and predicting the future hundreds or even thousands of years into the future.
All in all, I don't see a lot that convinces me of anything armageddon-like happening in 2012, more than any other year.
It would be nice though, if people could elaborate a bit more, instead of just saying, so-and-so said so. Please be exact in what they actually said and when they said it. It's not that hard really. By Zeus, I'm lazy by times and I do it nontheless. Do us the courtesy to do the same. Thanks.
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ill edit it later this evening and add more detail 
