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#121    Alienated Being

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:45 AM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 14 November 2012 - 01:07 AM, said:

There was a UMer named John
His posts were strange but long
When he got back
They were right on track
What he stated?
Was heavily debated
So he closed his account, and was gone !!


Ohh my what am I like?   I couldn't make up one that relates to yours, so I made up one about a Umer instead lol :P

EDIT - Sorry.. I meant to add..A UMer is a member of this forum..( All of us are UMers )

Anyhoo  hope your night is good.. Catch you later
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:10 AM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 14 November 2012 - 01:07 AM, said:



There was a UMer named John
His posts were strange but long
When he got back
They were right on track
What he stated?
Was heavily debated
So he closed his account, and was gone !!


Ohh my what am I like?   I couldn't make up one that relates to yours, so I made up one about a Umer instead lol :P

EDIT - Sorry.. I meant to add..A UMer is a member of this forum..( All of us are UMers )

Anyhoo  hope your night is good.. Catch you later
You have got to send that to Sakari. He will love it.

Edited by Seeker79, 14 November 2012 - 04:21 AM.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:32 AM

View Postal-amiyr, on 13 November 2012 - 07:59 PM, said:

Lovely debates. Continue!----------->
I gather your avoidance is the closest you'll admit to your equation being a failure.

Edited by Rlyeh, 14 November 2012 - 05:33 AM.


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:50 AM

from the way i see it .. the topic was derailed by side arguements
it's ignorant to claim some one else has failed when he said he'll reply tomorrow
maybe this " sudden urge " to finish the debate and claim the opposite side was failed
is a sign of your own failure to keep up with debate ?
but what do i know .. am just watching the debates

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:07 AM

View PostKnight Of Shadows, on 14 November 2012 - 05:50 AM, said:

from the way i see it .. the topic was derailed by side arguements
it's ignorant to claim some one else has failed when he said he'll reply tomorrow
And when he does reply it is meaningless banter.
The fact is he claimed to have supported his equation when he has not. Now is that ignorance or just an out right lie?

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maybe this " sudden urge " to finish the debate and claim the opposite side was failed
is a sign of your own failure to keep up with debate ?
The OP has clearly thought out these claims for sometime, but as soon as it is analyzed mathematically he goes AWOL.

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but what do i know .. am just watching the debates
Exactly. It's easier to watch, than comprehend.

Edited by Rlyeh, 14 November 2012 - 06:12 AM.


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:28 AM

View PostRlyeh, on 14 November 2012 - 06:07 AM, said:

And when he does reply it is meaningless banter.
The fact is he claimed to have supported his equation when he has not. Now is that ignorance or just an out right lie?
maybe we should wait till he's finished before deciding that

View PostRlyeh, on 14 November 2012 - 06:07 AM, said:

The OP has clearly thought out these claims for sometime, but as soon as it is analyzed mathematically he goes AWOL.
duhh .. the guy said it's his research so he thought of it for sometime .. is that a problem ?

View PostRlyeh, on 14 November 2012 - 06:07 AM, said:

Exactly. It's easier to watch, than comprehend.
i like to form my opinion before i start to agree and disagree
unlike you bro we're not all " born with supernature ability to comprehend points before they are fully exposed "
so i'd rather wait till he's finished with his point before i make up my mind about it

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:40 AM

View PostKnight Of Shadows, on 14 November 2012 - 06:28 AM, said:

maybe we should wait till he's finished before deciding that
So you can't decide whether a false claim is a lie or not? lol.
How about if I told you I had a million dollars when I don't, is that a lie? Or do you need some time to think about that?

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duhh .. the guy said it's his research so he thought of it for sometime .. is that a problem ?
Yeah, it's a bit problem when you make a claim you either can't or refuse to support. Further avoidance only makes the problem worse.

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unlike you bro we're not all " born with supernature ability to comprehend points before they are fully exposed "
so i'd rather wait till he's finished with his point before i make up my mind about it
Algebra doesn't require any supernatural ability, but it does require an education.

Edited by Rlyeh, 14 November 2012 - 06:44 AM.


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:54 AM

View PostRlyeh, on 14 November 2012 - 06:40 AM, said:

So you can't decide whether a false claim is a lie or not? lol.
How about if I told you I had a million dollars when I don't, is that a lie? Or do you need some time to think about that?
the more you post the more i reliaze you not on level of this discussion .. no offense but that was halirious example
compared to topic at hand
when some one try to explain a pointview to me .. i take it all before i decide wheather i agree or disagree
if you told me you had million dollars and you are going to prove it .. i'll wait to see the prove
i won't dismiss or agree

View PostRlyeh, on 14 November 2012 - 06:40 AM, said:

Yeah, it's a bit problem when you make a claim you either can't or refuse to support. Further avoidance only makes the problem worse.
i don't see where he refused to support .. you on other hand rather dismissive .which i see as weakness in debates
that you simply dismiss the whole thing while the other side only said that he " WILL ' provide evidence , support .. etc etc


View PostRlyeh, on 14 November 2012 - 06:40 AM, said:

Algebra doesn't require any supernatural ability, but it does require an education.
well perhaps you should look back on the history of algebra .. and see who invented it

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:32 AM

View PostKnight Of Shadows, on 14 November 2012 - 06:54 AM, said:

the more you post the more i reliaze you not on level of this discussion .. no offense but that was halirious example
compared to topic at hand
when some one try to explain a pointview to me .. i take it all before i decide wheather i agree or disagree
Likewise, the more you post it's clear you don't comprehend what is being discussed.

The OP presented an equation, when questioned on the use he claimed he's already demonstrated it's use. The fact is he hasn't. When a practical usable equation was presented, he avoided it altogether.
Please tell me how long it takes for a false statement to become the truth by avoiding the issue?

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if you told me you had million dollars and you are going to prove it .. i'll wait to see the prove
i won't dismiss or agree
Better yet I'll repeat it again and bold the keywords.
If I told you I had a million dollars when I don't, is that a lie?

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i don't see where he refused to support .. you on other hand rather dismissive .which i see as weakness in debates
that you simply dismiss the whole thing while the other side only said that he " WILL ' provide evidence , support .. etc etc
Wrong. He said he did, he didn't. What part do you not understand?

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well perhaps you should look back on the history of algebra .. and see who invented it
Non sequitur. Does the fact we use sumerian sexagesimal time keeping mean their theology is more credible?

Edited by Rlyeh, 14 November 2012 - 08:46 AM.


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:55 AM

View PostRlyeh, on 14 November 2012 - 08:32 AM, said:

Likewise, the more you post it's clear you don't comprehend what is being discussed.

The OP presented an equation, when questioned on the use he claimed he's already demonstrated it's use. The fact is he hasn't.

Where did the OP say that he already demonstrated it's use? Where are your quotes? The reasoning reminds me of that part of an irrational number that has been discarded. If you do not then you no longer can be taken seriously.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:34 AM

View Postal-amiyr, on 14 November 2012 - 01:31 AM, said:

I was wondering what a UMer was. How humorous! It brought to mind this one.

There once was a fellow from Yuma
who told an elephant joke to a puma
Now his skeleton lies
under hot western skies
The Puma had no sense of huma

Put the arrows in a safe place;hope to dodge them tomorrow again.

I loved that one..lol   I gather  you love to write poems ?  

View PostAlienated Being, on 14 November 2012 - 01:45 AM, said:

Lol, I miss JVE

I wasn't thinking if  him to be honest.. but now that you mention it,  I guess it fits   lol

View PostSeeker79, on 14 November 2012 - 04:10 AM, said:

You have got to send that to Sakari. He will love it.

I have one for you...

There is a UMer, who loves to post
He tells it how it is, and rarely will boast
His posts are fine, I'd say he is well spoken
He enters many threads, with his mind open
A challenge is fine
He will reply on time
He goes by the name - Seeker79

Anyhoo.. I enjoyed that.. It is fun to make up short poems. but I am sure  it is derailing...and so I'll stop at that..   :P

Apologies for the poem derailment.. it was just a side bit of fun ..

Edited by Beckys_Mom, 14 November 2012 - 10:35 AM.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:56 AM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 14 November 2012 - 10:34 AM, said:



I loved that one..lol   I gather  you love to write poems ?  



I wasn't thinking if  him to be honest.. but now that you mention it,  I guess it fits   lol



I have one for you...

There is a UMer, who loves to post
He tells it how it is, and rarely will boast
His posts are fine, I'd say he is well spoken
He enters many threads, with his mind open
A challenge is fine
He will reply on time
He goes by the name - Seeker79

Anyhoo.. I enjoyed that.. It is fun to make up short poems. but I am sure  it is derailing...and so I'll stop at that..   :P

Apologies for the poem derailment.. it was just a side bit of fun ..
I  know this lady who is the mom of Becky 

No matter how smart I think I am, she always checks me. 

She has this incredible wit that can make you feel like a twit 

And her avatar and mind is dam sexy .   :)

"I wish neither to possess, Nor to be possessed. I no longer covet paradise, more important, I no longer fear hell. The medicine for my suffering I had within me from the very beginning, but I did not take it. My ailment came from within myself, But I did not observe it until this moment. Now I see that I will never find the light.  Unless, like the candle, I am my own fuel, Consuming myself. "
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:13 AM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 14 November 2012 - 10:34 AM, said:

I loved that one..lol   I gather  you love to write poems ?  



I wasn't thinking if  him to be honest.. but now that you mention it,  I guess it fits   lol



I have one for you...

There is a UMer, who loves to post
He tells it how it is, and rarely will boast
His posts are fine, I'd say he is well spoken
He enters many threads, with his mind open
A challenge is fine
He will reply on time
He goes by the name - Seeker79

Anyhoo.. I enjoyed that.. It is fun to make up short poems. but I am sure  it is derailing...and so I'll stop at that..   :P

Apologies for the poem derailment.. it was just a side bit of fun ..

View PostSeeker79, on 14 November 2012 - 10:56 AM, said:

I  know this lady who is the mom of Becky

No matter how smart I think I am, she always checks me.

She has this incredible wit that can make you feel like a twit

And her avatar and mind is dam sexy .   :)

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 14 November 2012 - 10:34 AM, said:

I loved that one..lol   I gather  you love to write poems ?  



I wasn't thinking if  him to be honest.. but now that you mention it,  I guess it fits   lol



I have one for you...

There is a UMer, who loves to post
He tells it how it is, and rarely will boast
His posts are fine, I'd say he is well spoken
He enters many threads, with his mind open
A challenge is fine
He will reply on time
He goes by the name - Seeker79

Anyhoo.. I enjoyed that.. It is fun to make up short poems. but I am sure  it is derailing...and so I'll stop at that..   :P

Apologies for the poem derailment.. it was just a side bit of fun ..

View PostSeeker79, on 14 November 2012 - 10:56 AM, said:

I  know this lady who is the mom of Becky

No matter how smart I think I am, she always checks me.

She has this incredible wit that can make you feel like a twit

And her avatar and mind is dam sexy .   :)

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#134    Beckys_Mom

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:13 AM

View PostSeeker79, on 14 November 2012 - 10:56 AM, said:

I  know this lady who is the mom of Becky

No matter how smart I think I am, she always checks me.

She has this incredible wit that can make you feel like a twit

And her avatar and mind is dam sexy .   :)

:lol: Brilliant and funny... I guess there is a poet in all of us  lol


al-amyir.. you started this with one poem...  and now look   lol

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 11:17 AM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 14 November 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

:lol: Brilliant and funny... I guess there is a poet in all of us  lol


al-amyir.. you started this with one poem...  and now look   lol
No regrets! Its good to observe dimensional laughter.

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