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#31    Abramelin

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 09:46 AM

View PostSunnyBlues, on 25 October 2012 - 10:23 AM, said:

Abramelin, I was refering to you incidentally with my last post. How do you explain the 'volcanic ash cloud on it's side' infront of the man's face??

What you see in front of the mouth of the guy in the boat looks like the Aztec glyph for talking.

But as far as I know, the Mayans didn't use such a glyph.

To me it is nothing but someone exhaling smoke, or maybe it is someone shouting (to the one busy drowning): "Hold on, I am on my way !!".

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Edited by Abramelin, 26 October 2012 - 09:49 AM.


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 09:55 AM

View PostAbramelin, on 26 October 2012 - 09:46 AM, said:

What you see in front of the mouth of the guy in the boat looks like the Aztec glyph for talking.
But as far as I know, the Mayans didn't use such a glyph.
Lol. Why not show a picture of the "Aztec glyph for talking"?

View PostAbramelin, on 26 October 2012 - 09:46 AM, said:

To me it is nothing but someone exhaling smoke, or maybe it is someone shouting (to the one busy drowning): "Hold on, I am on my way !!".
The man in the boat is rowing *away* from the drowning man though!!

Edited by SunnyBlues, 26 October 2012 - 09:58 AM.

The object, known by the locals as "Bicho Voador" (Flying Animal), or "Bicho Sugador" (Sucking Animal), has the shape of a rounded ship and attacks people in isolation.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 10:19 AM

View PostSunnyBlues, on 26 October 2012 - 09:55 AM, said:

Lol. Why not show a picture of the "Aztec glyph for talking"?
The man in the boat is rowing *away* from the drowning man though!!

You dont know the man in the boat is rowing away or towards the drowning man.

And this is the Aztec glyph for talking:

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I can imaging that the glyph for 'shouting' has more curves and waves.

But like I said : the Mayans did not use such a glyph for talking.

The guy may simply be breathing out smoke and ash. Not surprisingly if you notice the two erupting volcanoes left and right of the man in the boat.


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:55 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 26 October 2012 - 10:19 AM, said:

You dont know the man in the boat is rowing away or towards the drowning man.
The oar position means that the boat would contionue to the right, leaving the drowning man behind on the left.

View PostAbramelin, on 26 October 2012 - 10:19 AM, said:

And this is the Aztec glyph for talking:
I can imaging that the glyph for 'shouting' has more curves and waves.
But like I said : the Mayans did not use such a glyph for talking.
So you yourself have shown that this idea doesn't fit then.

View PostAbramelin, on 26 October 2012 - 10:19 AM, said:

The guy may simply be breathing out smoke and ash. Not surprisingly if you notice the two erupting volcanoes left and right of the man in the boat.
This sounds like someone clutching at straws for an alternative answer! What?! The surviving man is now breathing out smoke and ash?! How is he rowing if he's engulfed in high temperature volcanic ash and toxic smoke??

The object, known by the locals as "Bicho Voador" (Flying Animal), or "Bicho Sugador" (Sucking Animal), has the shape of a rounded ship and attacks people in isolation.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:43 PM

View PostSunnyBlues, on 23 October 2012 - 10:34 AM, said:

Very interesting Mantis914. Can you give any specific report/article examples please? I'd love to hear them.

http://www.weird-enc...chupacabras.php

I remember hearing several reports but too lazy now (sorry, too early in the morning) to research that the tongue of this Iguana-like Chupacabras was like a lance in that it would pierce the animal and drain the blood out.


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:33 PM

View PostSunnyBlues, on 26 October 2012 - 01:55 PM, said:

The oar position means that the boat would contionue to the right, leaving the drowning man behind on the left.
So you yourself have shown that this idea doesn't fit then.
This sounds like someone clutching at straws for an alternative answer! What?! The surviving man is now breathing out smoke and ash?! How is he rowing if he's engulfed in high temperature volcanic ash and toxic smoke??

The man in the canoe uses a single paddle, so it looks as though he is going towards the drowning man.

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I still don't know what the Mayan glyph for talking is. This - like I said - may have nothing to do with talking but with shouting. And yes, the guy in the boat may be exhaling smoke, not because he is a dragon or is fire resistant, but because he's engulfed in smoke.

The image is of course not a 100 % accurate copy of a real life scene, but I am not clutching at straws. I am trying to give a reasonable explanation for the scene in the image.

I am not the one seeing weird animals everywhere.


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 05:17 PM

I was wrong about the Mayans not having a glyph or symbol for talking.

Mesoamerican Speech Scrolls
http://www.bmaf.org/node/438

http://www.endangere.../about_logo.php

http://en.wikipedia....i/Speech_scroll

http://research.fams...?_allSearch=144

http://books.google...." mouth&f=false

And here's an example:

Illustration - Mayan storyteller with speech scroll coming from his mouth and butterfly.
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http://www.123rf.com...-butterfly.html

The original image we are discussing:

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Edited by Abramelin, 26 October 2012 - 05:35 PM.


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 05:51 PM

I don't see a lizard, nor have I heard of these creatures. You should write stories though, @ the OP.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 06:47 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 23 October 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

Why? Does it look really old to you??

You were thinking "Coelacanth", right?

It's just a fish, any fish.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 09:43 AM

View PostMantis914, on 26 October 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

http://www.weird-enc...chupacabras.php

I remember hearing several reports but too lazy now (sorry, too early in the morning) to research that the tongue of this Iguana-like Chupacabras was like a lance in that it would pierce the animal and drain the blood out.
THANKS! That's just what I was looking for.

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Apparently it has the ability to suck every last drop of blood from an animal through a tube-like tongue.


Edited by SunnyBlues, 27 October 2012 - 09:43 AM.

The object, known by the locals as "Bicho Voador" (Flying Animal), or "Bicho Sugador" (Sucking Animal), has the shape of a rounded ship and attacks people in isolation.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 02:39 PM

I could only see part of the title of this thread on the forums index page and I thought it was saying that there was a Maya glyph showing Lance Armstrong.  (lol)


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Posted 27 October 2012 - 02:44 PM

View PostEldorado, on 27 October 2012 - 02:39 PM, said:

I could only see part of the title of this thread on the forums index page and I thought it was saying that there was a Maya glyph showing Lance Armstrong.  (lol)
Funny..

The object, known by the locals as "Bicho Voador" (Flying Animal), or "Bicho Sugador" (Sucking Animal), has the shape of a rounded ship and attacks people in isolation.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 03:06 PM

View PostSunnyBlues, on 27 October 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

THANKS! That's just what I was looking for.

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So nothing to do with the Mayan relief you started this thread with.


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Posted 27 October 2012 - 04:09 PM

Are you all sure that's a volcano in this depiction?  I don't ever remember there being a volcano coming out of the water around Mexico or Central America and certainly not close to a pyramid.  Could they be rays from the sun coming out from behind an overcast sky?

Nevermind, I correct myself as I speak, the Volcano Concepcion on Ometepe Island, Lake Nicaragua and also 2 other volanoes off the coast of western Mexico but they look too far away from the shore...


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Posted 27 October 2012 - 04:41 PM

View PostMantis914, on 27 October 2012 - 04:09 PM, said:

Are you all sure that's a volcano in this depiction?  I don't ever remember there being a volcano coming out of the water around Mexico or Central America and certainly not close to a pyramid.  Could they be rays from the sun coming out from behind an overcast sky?

Nevermind, I correct myself as I speak, the Volcano Concepcion on Ometepe Island, Lake Nicaragua and also 2 other volanoes off the coast of western Mexico but they look too far away from the shore...

I am VERY sure they are volcanoes.

You may not remember a volcano rising up, but then again, you are not 1400 years old.





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