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#31    TheLastLazyGun

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:05 PM

View Postspud the mackem, on 25 March 2013 - 05:46 PM, said:

So where are all the theorists on "the earth is warming up" ? its gone quiet around here.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 03:32 PM

I am going to stick my neck out and predict that if the Neutral ENSO persists into the summer we will see record breaking heat waves in the UK for at least part of the summer.
Everyone forgets that in the exceptional summer of 1976 (I can still remember it well) it snowed in early June.

If you refuse to attempt to grasp complex subjects like climate you are doomed to draw all the wrong conclusions when you look out of your window.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 04:22 PM

It could well be a strong headwind.But this Saturday morning just gone I woke up and it was white as the eye can see.Two hours later all the snow drifted off the tarmac with the rest remaining on the grass.If this was some kind of thaw it was the strangest I've ever seen.No bits of snow should have been left behind.Since then I've been seeing flurries on and off with a special type of non adhesive snow.That's despite the pavement being dry as a bone.It didn't even get to the ice stage despite it being bitterly cold.However the strong headwind did contribute to the chill factor of minus two in my parts.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 09:17 PM

The Weather people explained that the current cold spell  in the U.K is due to the fact that the current high Jet Stream has moved south and is going over Spain,instead of the British Isles, as it normally does during March,This is allowing the cold arctic air to wander much further South, and so we have an un-natural shift in the system causing the current cold problem.They have not and probably cannot explain why this has happened, but have said that it maybe due to a shift in Ocean currents in the North Atlantic.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 11:08 AM

View PostBr Cornelius, on 26 March 2013 - 03:32 PM, said:

I am going to stick my neck out and predict that if the Neutral ENSO persists into the summer we will see record breaking heat waves in the UK for at least part of the summer.
Everyone forgets that in the exceptional summer of 1976 (I can still remember it well) it snowed in early June.

If you refuse to attempt to grasp complex subjects like climate you are doomed to draw all the wrong conclusions when you look out of your window.

You can remind me of my predicton if I am wrong.

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you make me laugh. so your sticking your neck out predicting - in the summer months we might get a heat wave. no **** sherlock. you'd be better winding your neck in with predictions like that. i thought you was going to really stick your neck out and predict snow in july or something. im going to make a prediction, at some point next winter we might have cold weather. :nw:

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 11:23 AM

View Postspud the mackem, on 26 March 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

The Weather people explained that the current cold spell  in the U.K is due to the fact that the current high Jet Stream has moved south and is going over Spain,instead of the British Isles, as it normally does during March,This is allowing the cold arctic air to wander much further South, and so we have an un-natural shift in the system causing the current cold problem.They have not and probably cannot explain why this has happened, but have said that it maybe due to a shift in Ocean currents in the North Atlantic.

climate is always setting new records. trouble is these days they contribute anything and everything to man. yet if you study history you'll see the Romans cataloged extremes in weather here in Britain. so who do we blame back then? oh thats right it was natural.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 11:37 AM

If the Gulf Stream stops, how long will it take before Britain comes to be another Newfoundland?


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 11:40 AM

View Poststevewinn, on 27 March 2013 - 11:08 AM, said:

you make me laugh. so your sticking your neck out predicting - in the summer months we might get a heat wave. no **** sherlock. you'd be better winding your neck in with predictions like that. i thought you was going to really stick your neck out and predict snow in july or something. im going to make a prediction, at some point next winter we might have cold weather. :nw:
A Record breaking heatwave - ie a noteworthy heatwave. This runs counter to all those ninies who are saying we are in the early stages of a new Ice age and that this current cold snap is somehow proof of it.

A short term weather forcast which will support the fact that global warming carries on a pace - even in little old blighty.

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View PostFrank Merton, on 27 March 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

If the Gulf Stream stops, how long will it take before Britain comes to be another Newfoundland?
The day after.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 11:41 AM

View Poststevewinn, on 27 March 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

climate is always setting new records. trouble is these days they contribute anything and everything to man. yet if you study history you'll see the Romans cataloged extremes in weather here in Britain. so who do we blame back then? oh thats right it was natural.
There is good evidence for suggesting that the Romans did in fact influence their climate through the radical land use changes they rought across the empire.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 11:45 AM

View Postfreetoroam, on 24 March 2013 - 08:11 PM, said:

years back people would use their log burners, now the old have the electric or gas and today many just can not afford the costs.


I'd like to understand how they cannot afford to heat their houses with gas. Electricity is a lot more expensive, but gas is still relatively cheap. Say as pension is £140 a week, then even with electricity powered heating they should still be able to afford food and heating. Hell, if a pension was almost half that they could afford it.

I don't get it. It's either a case of them being too generous and splashing money of grandchildren, or a case of them being too stingy to spend the money on properly heating themselves. Either way, as far as I can tell (and I may be missing something), they should easily be able to afford to heat their houses and the deaths would seem to me to be self inflicted.


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Posted 27 March 2013 - 06:24 PM

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I'd like to understand how they cannot afford to heat their houses with gas. Electricity is a lot more expensive, but gas is still relatively cheap. Say as pension is £140 a week, then even with electricity powered heating they should still be able to afford food and heating. Hell, if a pension was almost half that they could afford it.

I don't get it. It's either a case of them being too generous and splashing money of grandchildren, or a case of them being too stingy to spend the money on properly heating themselves. Either way, as far as I can tell (and I may be missing something), they should easily be able to afford to heat their houses and the deaths would seem to me to be self inflicted.
I really do not know and as you have pointed out, 140 a week is well enough to live on and i understand the pensioners have help with their heating costs. But we hear how some pensioners can not afford the heating bills, I must say when I lived in a flat in London, the housing association put in new radiators, they said that the new boilers and radiators were going to save us money, it did on our electricity costs but the gas bill went up, the was not a lot of difference between the two after that. It may depend on where they live and what property they live in. But keeping warm really should not be a problem to the pensioners.

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 06:43 PM

Ugh just read a report from the BBC that this bad weather is with us till mid April :cry:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21950926

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 06:49 PM

I looked at wikipedia and the min low is 5. So it seems the media have over reacted as usual


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Posted 28 March 2013 - 01:40 PM

View PostStar of the Sea, on 27 March 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:

Ugh just read a report from the BBC that this bad weather is with us till mid April :cry:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21950926
I hope that dosn't include Wales. I want to see sandy beaches not glacier fields..

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 02:03 PM

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