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South Carolina Says NO to Obamacare

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#16    OverSword

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 04:10 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 03 May 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

The causant is always responsible, or those who avoid people getting access to an exchange. That would not be the Federal government. The people of South Carolina can try to get the their extra taxes back from the state.
If the state doesn't set up an exchange it becomes the responsibility of the fed.  The states are not required to set up exchanges, just encouraged and incentivized.

This really is a non-issue though, because this hasn't passed and I'm guessing the politicians in SC are just as corrupt as the rest, so it won't pass.


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 04:12 PM

View PostOverSword, on 03 May 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

If the state doesn't set up an exchange it becomes the responsibility of the fed.  The states are not required to set up exchanges, just encouraged and incentivized.

This really is a non-issue though, because this hasn't passed and I'm guessing the politicians in SC are just as corrupt as the rest, so it won't pass.

So, the law is void to start with, South Carolina cannot prohibit the Fed doing what is lawful.... which is the other point not considered.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 04:26 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 03 May 2013 - 04:12 PM, said:

So, the law is void to start with, South Carolina cannot prohibit the Fed doing what is lawful.... which is the other point not considered.

We don't know the details of this legislation but I'm just gonna guess the law makers of SC have some legal argument they believe holds water.


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 04:55 PM

I'll bet the IRS employees aren't happy at all that this load of manure got dumped in their lap. As if they don't have enough to keep up with as it is. Just sayin....

Like auto insurance, the health care insurance issue should be a state mandated responsibility. Why have the states at all if they have no say?

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 06:05 PM

Keeping goverments localized fits the needs of society the best. People in their community know what is best for their community. A national goverment has to have the final say or else we would be 50 nations not one. Part of the reason for the constitution and bill of rights is made to stop the national goverment from abusing the local goverments.

Someone living in michigan dosent know what is best for someone living in arizona. Keep it local.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 08:41 PM

The Civil War was fought over State's rights.  The next will probably be fought over those as well.


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:34 PM

There are several states opting out of Obamacare. One is Texas. What's the federal gov gonna do? Throw everyone in jail for not being able to afford health insurance? Honestly, Obamacare is not going to be implemented no matter how much Washington talks big. Just a huge headache for EVERYONE.


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:42 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 03 May 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Your problem seems to be that you are not the majority. As shown by the last elections: the guy who wanted to abolish Obamacare lost.
Actually, polls keep indicating lower and lower support for Obamacare.  Romney lost the election because he tried to be everything for everyone and so was obviously no one.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:18 PM

Romney lost the election because he was a pillock, and came from a party only slightly more well thought of then the KKK, not  because the majority supported Obamacare.


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Posted 04 May 2013 - 02:14 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 03 May 2013 - 10:18 PM, said:

Romney lost the election because he was a pillock, and came from a party only slightly more well thought of then the KKK, not  because the majority supported Obamacare.

At least he didn't come from the party that formed the KKK but there is no need for such comparisons. C'mon Hats.

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 07:02 PM

View PostKowalski, on 03 May 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

There are several states opting out of Obamacare. One is Texas. What's the federal gov gonna do?

perhaps you're simply unaware. "opting out" means they're not going to run the exchange. It means the federal government will run the exchange for them.

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 09:38 PM

View PostKowalski, on 03 May 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

I LOVE South Carolina! LOL
This is great.
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 09:40 PM

View PostIamsSon, on 03 May 2013 - 09:42 PM, said:

Actually, polls keep indicating lower and lower support for Obamacare.  Romney lost the election because he tried to be everything for everyone and so was obviously no one.
And he only wanted to abolish it ,to win ,given he's the one that created it ,for the state of Mass ,long before obomba stole it from him .
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Posted 04 May 2013 - 09:43 PM

View PostOverSword, on 03 May 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:



We don't know the details of this legislation but I'm just gonna guess the law makers of SC have some legal argument they believe holds water.
Lawyers will be lining up for the class action lawsuits everyone will be filing ,the minute they try to make obombacare stick .
And if they jail us ,we can get all our medical care free ,in jail ..I don't see how this will get more people who can't wont or don't want obombas bull**** ins .............

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Posted 04 May 2013 - 10:18 PM

Interesting to imagine the ACA "null and void" in South Carolina. At this point:
  • The state has already taken a million dollars to design an exchange it now says it won't build, and another million dollars under the law to develop processes to review unreasonable insurance rate hikes.
  • Over 2,000 South Carolinians with pre-existing conditions gained access to care through the high-risk pool funded by the ACA in the state
  • Community health centers serving South Carolinians have received over $64 million under the ACA to expand their capacity, with school-based health centers in the state getting another $3 million
  • 50,000 young adults in South Carolina have been able to say on their family insurance plans under the ACA's new rules
  • South Carolinian seniors on Medicare have saved over $80 million on prescription drugs costs due to the ACA starting to close the donut hole, and well over half a million South Carolina seniors took advantage of the new Medicare preventive benefits in the ACA
  • Over 250,000 South Carolinians with private insurance have received rebates due to their insurers spending too much on administrative costs
  • Nearly 1.5 million people in South Carolina have already benefited from the ACA eliminating lifetime dollars limits on insurance policies
  • The number of primary care doctors serving shortage areas as part of the National Health Service Corps has more than doubled
And so on.

I haven't read South Carolina's proposed legislation so maybe somebody else can fill me in: when do the people of South Carolina plan on giving the rest of us that money back?






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