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#1    redhen

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 02:37 PM

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According to this Deutsche Welle article;

"India has officially recognized dolphins as non-human persons, whose rights to life and liberty must be respected. Dolphin parks that were being built across the country will instead be shut down."

... and thanks for all the fish. :)


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Posted 27 May 2013 - 03:03 PM

Yup, that's what I think of them too.  If they had an opposing digit they could use to grip and make tools with, well they would be so much smarter - aw heck, no they wouldn't bother with all that tech stuff even then, they are far too intelligent to mess with perfection and boy do they milk the perfection of their environment and their adaptation to it for all it's worth, clever animals to get so much life out of living with nothing more useful than flippers, a tail, and a quirky smile, I love them.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 03:20 PM

The are smart and one of these days we had better hope they don't put us on display.


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Posted 27 May 2013 - 04:18 PM

If you have ever seen the 1960's American TV series "Flipper," you would know that dolphins are always 'smiling,' constantly cheerful, mostly cooperative, play well with each other, appear to enjoy life and have never been known to start a war---clearly not anywhere near human. . .

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 04:20 PM

What's with all the other super smart animals? You either do this to all of them, or to none.

View Postszentgyorgy, on 27 May 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

If you have ever seen the 1960's American TV series "Flipper," you would know that dolphins are always 'smiling,' constantly cheerful, mostly cooperative, play well with each other, appear to enjoy life and have never been known to start a war---clearly not anywhere near human. . .
That's not the case at all. It's a TV show. Do you think collies act like Lessie, and horses like Fury?

Edited by FLOMBIE, 27 May 2013 - 04:23 PM.


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Posted 27 May 2013 - 04:32 PM

View Postszentgyorgy, on 27 May 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

If you have ever seen the 1960's American TV series "Flipper," you would know that dolphins are always 'smiling,' constantly cheerful, mostly cooperative, play well with each other, appear to enjoy life and have never been known to start a war---clearly not anywhere near human. . .

Except they attack porpoises on sight for no apparent reason.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 04:44 PM

View PostlibstaK, on 27 May 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

Yup, that's what I think of them too.  If they had an opposing digit they could use to grip and make tools with, well they would be so much smarter - aw heck, no they wouldn't bother with all that tech stuff even then, they are far too intelligent to mess with perfection and boy do they milk the perfection of their environment and their adaptation to it for all it's worth, clever animals to get so much life out of living with nothing more useful than flippers, a tail, and a quirky smile, I love them.
In some fantasy world, but in reality (as Almagest pointed out, already):

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But perhaps the most perplexing assassin is none other than Flipper. Bottlenose dolphin males target harbor porpoises, ramming and lacerating them to death by the dozen. Though related to bottlenoses, porpoises eat different fish, so are not competing for resources. Scientists suspect that bottlenose males may be practicing baby-killing techniques. Dolphin young are about the same size as porpoises and are also frequent victims of adult aggression, for a logical reason from the male's point of view: A mother dolphin will not breed--unless her calf dies young.
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Posted 27 May 2013 - 04:48 PM

Indeed. People should stop seeing them as magical creatures. They have flaws - just like any other animal.


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Posted 27 May 2013 - 05:01 PM

View PostFLOMBIE, on 27 May 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

What's with all the other super smart animals? You either do this to all of them, or to none.

Like dogs.



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Posted 27 May 2013 - 05:04 PM

View PostLilly, on 27 May 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

Like dogs.
And cats, crows, pigs, orcas, great apes, wolves, etc.. The list is darn long.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 05:16 PM

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Well, I'm glad to finally be recognized as a non-human person.
It's a step in the right direction.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 06:06 PM

View PostFLOMBIE, on 27 May 2013 - 04:48 PM, said:

Indeed. People should stop seeing them as magical creatures. They have flaws - just like any other animal.

Like humans.  :tu:

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 06:26 PM

"India has officially recognized dolphins as non-human persons,"

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This coming from a country who have nuclear weapons!

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 06:27 PM

View PostDarkwind, on 27 May 2013 - 06:06 PM, said:

Like humans.  :tu:
Like I said, any other animal. :)


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Posted 27 May 2013 - 06:59 PM

Were gonna have to have a dolphin police force i think. Cos just like humans some of them are thieving , kidnapping, raping, murdering  b*******.
We have quite alot in common.





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