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#181    poppet

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:55 PM

View PostIron_Lotus, on 05 April 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:

just more bs from the imaginative minds of ct's, no proof, no evidence, just a wild imagination chock full of misinformation and outright lies. sadly they'll keep banging away on their drums and live in their own little bubbles as they spew more and more uneducated crap out of their mouths.

are you saying that dews are imaginary

Directed Energy Weapons

Textron Defense Systems has been a leader in directed energy weapon (DEW) development for more than 40 years. Our current activities are built upon our unique ThinZag® approach, a rugged, compact and affordable solid state laser configuration that permits scaling to high power levels. Textron Defense Systems’ DEW capabilities include:
  • Participation in the two largest solid state laser programs sponsored by the U.S. government – Joint High Powered Solid State Laser, or J-HPSSL, and High Energy Liquid Laser Area Defense System, or HELLADS
  • Development of the adaptive ThinZag architecture allowing multiple configurations  at various power levels to accommodate a variety of military  missions
  • Additional research and development on advanced hybrid designs, such as hybrid-fiber slab lasers
http://www.textronde...rgy-weapons.php


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:56 PM

View PostIron_Lotus, on 05 April 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

looks like an updated version of the searchlights used on the old matilda 1 or the sd.kfz.251 but with significant changes since the 40's of course.
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No, it is the Tactical High-Energy Laser; a defense weapon. There also is a mobile version. I think both never left the test stage.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:59 PM

View Postpoppet, on 05 April 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

are you saying that dews are imaginary
-snipped the crap

if you had read both the posts between me and rhuairidh you would notice that we were discussing the use of energy based weapons used on the world trade centers which btw is absolute BS, now how about you go and post some evidence to back up your claims.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 04:01 PM

View PostFLOMBIE, on 05 April 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

No, it is the Tactical High-Energy Laser; a defense weapon. There also is a mobile version. I think both never left the test stage.

thank you for the links.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 05:38 PM

View Postpoppet, on 05 April 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

are you saying that dews are imaginary

Directed Energy Weapons

Textron Defense Systems has been a leader in directed energy weapon (DEW) development for more than 40 years. Our current activities are built upon our unique ThinZag® approach, a rugged, compact and affordable solid state laser configuration that permits scaling to high power levels. Textron Defense Systems’ DEW capabilities include:
  • Participation in the two largest solid state laser programs sponsored by the U.S. government – Joint High Powered Solid State Laser, or J-HPSSL, and High Energy Liquid Laser Area Defense System, or HELLADS
  • Development of the adaptive ThinZag architecture allowing multiple configurations at various power levels to accommodate a variety of military missions
  • Additional research and development on advanced hybrid designs, such as hybrid-fiber slab lasers
http://www.textronde...rgy-weapons.php
The important bit being directed energy. That means precision. Which is exactly the opposite of the supposed use of a Nuke, which is rarely very precision, and tends to be fairly indiscriminate over a very large area. I think people putting this theory forward need to decide which version they're going with; the Nuke or the Directed Energy Weapon? They're hardly the same.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:39 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 05 April 2013 - 06:44 AM, said:

Hang on


You admit that it is solid proof that hazardous materiels are found at building sites, but that does not matter, because circumstantial (made up) evidence is being gathered by some nutter with a screw loose, and this somehow challenges that which we all acknowledge as fact????

Circumstantial evidence trumps actual evidence??? What?

There is direct evidence, and circumstantial evidence.  Both are valid, though direct has more weight in deliberations than does circumstantial.

Regarding an analysis of the events of 11 September we have both direct and circumstantial.  Far more of the latter than of the former, and there is a cumulative effect, as in the PREPONDERANCE of the evidence as used in US civil trials.


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:48 PM

View Postflyingswan, on 05 April 2013 - 12:56 PM, said:

You wouldn't look such an idiot if you did the research yourself before you asked me.

Crematorium, typically around 950 deg C.

NIST modelling of WTC fires, around 800 to 1100 deg C.

These temperatures are typical of building fires in general:
http://www.interactf...legislation.asp

I am happy to be seen an idiot by persons who believe the outlandish story that is the Official Conspiracy Theory. :tu:


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:50 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 05 April 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

Apparently, I know of no such weapon in use in Iraq.

Surprize, surprize! :w00t:


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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:06 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 05 April 2013 - 06:39 AM, said:

I think the people who try to make them at home end up in jail and killing themselves from exposure. Have you ever heard much about David Hahn?

well if they're trying to make one, dying from exposure or ending up in jail would be the last thing they're going to worry about ... can't say I'm familiar with David Hahn.

I am reading "Surely you're joking, Mr. Feynman!" again ... Oak Ridge and neutrons and uranium nitrate :lol:

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 12:30 AM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 05 April 2013 - 06:48 PM, said:

I am happy to be seen an idiot by persons who believe the outlandish story that is the Official Conspiracy Theory. :tu:

Looking at the evidence, the evidence supports the official story, and to backup that statement, post evidence that refutes the official story.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 12:42 AM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 05 April 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

Surprize, surprize! :w00t:

I forgot about these laser weapon systems.

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You will notice how laser pointers were used in Iraq to clear trees.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 12:43 AM

I'll take a dozen of each ... batteries included ?

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 12:48 AM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 05 April 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:

There is direct evidence, and circumstantial evidence.  Both are valid, though direct has more weight in deliberations than does circumstantial.

Regarding an analysis of the events of 11 September we have both direct and circumstantial.  Far more of the latter than of the former, and there is a cumulative effect, as in the PREPONDERANCE of the evidence as used in US civil trials.

It has been more than 11 years since the 911 attacks, so how many government employees have been implicated in the 911 attacks?

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 02:01 PM

I've lost count, Sky, of the numbers of government officials implicated in the crimes and cover up.  All 3 branches of the federal government, and a number of supervisors at FAA and other federal agencies have been implicated.

You yourself may not be aware of that, but many other people are.


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Posted 06 April 2013 - 04:03 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 06 April 2013 - 02:01 PM, said:

I've lost count, Sky, of the numbers of government officials implicated in the crimes and cover up.  All 3 branches of the federal government, and a number of supervisors at FAA and other federal agencies have been implicated.
You seem to have difficulty distinguishing between the zero number officials actually proven to be implicated, and all the ones who would have to be implicated if your view was correct.

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