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Dogs helped man out-compete with Neanderthals

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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 01:49 PM

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Dogs could have been the deciding factor which enabled modern humans to out-compete with Neanderthals and colonise Europe, researchers claim.

Man's relationship with his best friend has lasted 32,000 years, with cave-dwelling hunter-gatherers using dogs to carry supplies so that they could save their energy for hunting.

The bond between man and dog arose at around the time Neanderthals began to surrender their dominance over Europe, which had lasted for the previous 250,000 years.

Now experts have suggested the domestication of dogs, and the benefit it gave to their masters, could have played a key rule in the demise of the Neanderthals and supremacy of humans.

http://www.telegraph...anderthals.html

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 11:43 PM

A dog really is a mans best friend.


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Posted 18 May 2012 - 11:27 AM

true dat.


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Posted 18 May 2012 - 07:47 PM

More than just helping carry food and supplies, dogs likely helped with hunting, protected us from predators, were natural alarms to danger, and kept us warm at night.  I think the relationship we have with dogs is quite amazing.


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Posted 18 May 2012 - 08:24 PM

Are you trying to tell me that dogs perform tasks other than snoring in front of the fire, eating, passing wind and dribbling on the carpet? I'd better have a word with my two!!!

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 08:29 PM

View PostStarflower, on 18 May 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

More than just helping carry food and supplies, dogs likely helped with hunting, protected us from predators, were natural alarms to danger, and kept us warm at night.  I think the relationship we have with dogs is quite amazing.


I prefer " the relationship dogs have with us "......

They have un conditional love, we do not.....They make the relationship what it is, we do not.

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Are you trying to tell me that dogs perform tasks other than snoring in front of the fire, eating, passing wind and dribbling on the carpet? I'd better have a word with my two!!!


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Posted 18 May 2012 - 08:52 PM

These days it would have been considered 'speciesism' and demonstrations would be popping up to demand an end to 'Neanderthal Genocide'.


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Posted 18 May 2012 - 09:26 PM

Wouldnot the Neanderthal have not done the same a domescated canines themselves they had the time to do it.


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Posted 18 May 2012 - 09:28 PM

Why didn't Africans domesticate hyenas or cape hunting dogs? Why did they never domesticate Zebras for use in riding or battle? Some things just don't happen despite having the time to do so I guess.


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Posted 19 May 2012 - 02:36 AM

arent neanderthals the same as humans? except like more ancient?


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Posted 19 May 2012 - 03:34 AM

Neanderthals existed along side of what became modern man, sharing a common ancestor further back in the chain. But I know there are a couple people around here who can explain this in far more accurate detail than I can so I'll leave it at that for now.


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Posted 19 May 2012 - 08:13 PM

View PostTheSpoonyOne, on 18 May 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

Why didn't Africans domesticate hyenas or cape hunting dogs? Why did they never domesticate Zebras for use in riding or battle? Some things just don't happen despite having the time to do so I guess.

I think the ancient Egyptians (or maybe the Nubian?) did try to domesticate hyenas and zebras but they never succeeded. I guess sosome animals are just more suited for domestication than others. Both zebras and hyenas are quite dangerous and much stronger than say, horses and wolves...

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:51 PM

View Postcsspwns, on 19 May 2012 - 02:36 AM, said:

arent neanderthals the same as humans? except like more ancient?



Kind of, they all live in New York.

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 10:31 PM

I watched a documentary about our early relationship with dogs.  Friends over a garbage pile.  :)  Their first job was to guard our kids.  That right there is a great survival advantage.


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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:18 AM

Here an example of hyenas domesticated http://www.hemmy.net...2/03/hyena-pet/






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